List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

[Keys]

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[amazingjoshy]

Can see Witherden being retained simply because we have no depth in that position.

There's no way he should be imo

 

[stallon]

Bolton, Kosi and Baker could be on the cards with their 3 first rounders and Darcy thrown in the mix.

Im thinking they have to use 4 first rounders for Bolton and Kosi, including their F1

Darcy and whatever else they have can try for Baker/Trac/whoever else

 

[squashface]

There's no way he should be imo

I'd love him gone but who do we have in the wings for that small defender role?

Maybe if we end up signing Baker - but he's more of a utility anyway.

 

[footy_basis]

Trew just has to he delisted. How can this guy keep getting extensions. At best he's the worst player on the list.

 

[Balls In]

You just memory holed schoeys entire career, including a certain grand final?

Schofield was sidelined by Simmo for much of 2018 and doesn't play the GF if Sheppard doesn't do a hammy. After that Simmo pushed him out.

 

[mat11]

They could get Bolton and Kosi, with **** all left for Trac unless they trade out some good players.

What would Sean Darcy fetch?
Darcy + 2nd rounder + Switkowski + Erasmus idk should get a couple 1st rounders that might be enough for Trac

Freo should go hard for kozi and shai this year which is all realistic

Next year their first and fatboy darcy for the Chad

 

[WCErevival]

So Rotham, LEdwards, Witho, JJ, Baker and Trew makes 6 list spots, and no rookie spots. Wouldve liked 1-2 more.
Hope Rawlinson isnt retained tbh

Barrass

 

[stallon]

Barrass

very true

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

So Rotham, LEdwards, Witho, JJ, Baker and Trew makes 6 list spots, and no rookie spots. Wouldve liked 1-2 more.
Hope Rawlinson isnt retained tbh

Burgiel also in limbo

 

[Footfalcon]

We should get into the Pickett sweepstakes... Class young player.. trade Ryan to highest bidder

Ryan and pick 23 for Kosi? Sounds fair to me

 

[Footfalcon]

Trew just has to he delisted. How can this guy keep getting extensions. At best he's the worst player on the list.

Wayyyy better than culley.

 

[eaglevision]

If we don’t clear out our Cat A rookie list for this year’s draft we are really, really going to regret it. Artemis, Boxshall, Hayes and maybe even Dennis just to name some local boys who may make it to rookie selections.

Cut deep, elevate Maric, keep Hutch, re-rookie Culley if everyone else we like is gone and cut Trew, Baker and Rawlinson.

 

[stallon]

Wayyyy better than culley.

both should be delisted

 

[rebel23]

Ryan and pick 23 for Kosi? Sounds fair to me

Id be willing to split 3... If possible... And give 12 or whatever for Pickett if he was keen

 

[Keys]

Burgiel also in limbo

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Journos that can’t get basic facts right shit me

We haven’t already opened up two spots with the retirement of Gaff and Barrass asking for a trade. Our list was at 45 so there’s only one spot open so far. And that’s reliant on Barrass actually being traded which whilst likely, hasn’t happened yet

Rant aside, it makes sense we haven’t made any definite cuts yet because we need to see what players, if any, come in via trade before delisting players we might choose to keep if Phil ****s up his cage rattling and no one comes. Also depends on contracted players asking for a trade out other than Barrass

Rotham potentially being picked up as a Free Agent won’t help us unfortunately if Graham is signed up due to the vagaries of the FA compo rules

 

[squashface]

Journos that can’t get basic facts right shit me

We haven’t already opened up two spots with the retirement of Gaff and Barrass asking for a trade. Our list was at 45 so there’s only one spot open so far. And that’s reliant on Barrass actually being traded which whilst likely, hasn’t happened yet

Rant aside, it makes sense we haven’t made any definite cuts yet because we need to see what players, if any, come in via trade before delisting players we might choose to keep if Phil ****s up his cage rattling and no one comes. Also depends on contracted players asking for a trade out other than Barrass

Rotham potentially being picked up as a Free Agent won’t help us unfortunately if Graham is signed up due to the vagaries of the FA compo rules

When it's put that way I feel like a Rotham for Graham straight swap is a pretty decent deal for us. Graham is a far superior player.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

When it's put that way I feel like a Rotham for Graham straight swap is a pretty decent deal for us. Graham is a far superior player.

But, depending on the contract, Rotham signed elsewhere and no Graham could be a free R3 or R4 pick somewhere at a low level of compo, which could help with a Champion bid.

 

[Obeanie1]

So reported Malcom Rosas (GC) has been encouraged to look elsewhere.

Could that be linked to our Ryans manager also reported talking to Qld clubs?

We dont need a Rosas. Essendon, Carlton, North. Plenty do.

Im calling it. This trade period will be the biggest in a long while. Crazy movements. Petracca has stirred up a hornets nest. Bolton. Rioli. Pickett. Barrass. Houston. Smith. Battle.

Some decent names there.

 

[eaglevision]

When it's put that way I feel like a Rotham for Graham straight swap is a pretty decent deal for us. Graham is a far superior player.

I don’t mind the draft capital free pick up, the length of the deal is the concern. 4 years is a poor structure for an average UFA with as much cap space in the next two years as we do. For argument sake let’s say it’s 4 years @600k/year.

Why not make it 2 years @900k a year with a club option for the final 2 years @300k? If we’re unhappy after 2 years we’re off the hook for 600k and a list spot and Graham’s ok because he’s made $1.8m for two years of average footy.

If we are happy then the term and total salary of the contract is the same anyway.

I hope we’re thinking laterally of ways to use our cap space because there’s no way we’re meeting the floor for the next 2 years with our current list.

 

[Barrybran]

But, depending on the contract, Rotham signed elsewhere and no Graham could be a free R3 or R4 pick somewhere at a low level of compo, which could help with a Champion bid.

If Rotham is getting a contract somwhere, we're probably going to have to give someone a pick (j/k)

 

[larrikin]

I think people are missing the point on trying to get Graham. He is 26. We have literally no AFL quality midfielders at that age, people who can be the "mature body" for Reid and Hewitt and Ginbey and (insert pick 3) beyond Yeo and Kelly.

He's also free on draft picks, and on a pretty low salary, which we can front load.

Costs 1 list spot. I think we're ok.

Baker concerns me more - his fit is the same rationale, it's just what we have to give up to get him.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Much as I am a big Hewett fan; there’s no guarantee he will come good. He’s already missed a fair chunk of footy.If he comes good;great!!

 

[eaglevision]

I think people are missing the point on trying to get Graham. He is 26. We have literally no AFL quality midfielders at that age, people who can be the "mature body" for Reid and Hewitt and Ginbey and (insert pick 3) beyond Yeo and Kelly.

He's also free on draft picks, and on a pretty low salary, which we can front load.

Costs 1 list spot. I think we're ok.

Baker concerns me more - his fit is the same rationale, it's just what we have to give up to get him.

That’s clearly the point I agree. Just think we can be a bit smarter with how we structure the deal by using our obscene cap space to our advantage whilst giving us a rip cord with a modest saving in future years if needed. Better than delisting him 2 years into a 4 year guaranteed deal and then still have to pay out the last 2 years at a time when we’re going to be looking to recontract RH7, EH8, HR9, FOS3 etc. Our cap space is unprecedented.

 

[farmeagle]

both should be delisted

West Australian reporting, Culley, Livingston and Rawlinson set to stay in 25

 

[Sands of Time]

very true

Gaff!


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