List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

Whose future picks would you have preferred?

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

  • Jai Culley, Alex Witherden and Coby Burgiel delisted






  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted

 
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noobermensch said:
Fred Rodriguez was super impressive as a bottom ager for WA at this years champs, and showed more of the same in the futures game. Super clean at ground level and damaging with his disposals combining dash, elite decision making and solid ball skills to slice through the opposition.

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Jesus I thought this bloke was a left footer going off the first few disposals I saw watching this game live. But it actually looks like he’s a natural right footer based off the long kick from a mark at 2:30 of this video.

Kid is genuinely dual sided though and seems to have good burst with decent disposal by hand too. I like the look of him for 2025.
 
I hope we abandon our Jack Graham pursuit and just trade a token pick for Deven Robertson to come be our defensive mid.
 

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noobermensch said:
I try to be. I have a youtube channel where I post videos of draft prospect game footage which I hope is useful.
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i wasn't trying to throw shade, sorry if it came accross that way.
i just found it funny to every now and then get player highlights in the middle of a discussion about something else, and then very little other interaction.
was just not the norm for how i had seen people approach bigfooty in general.
 
TerryFilk said:
I hope we abandon our Jack Graham pursuit and just trade a token pick for Deven Robertson to come be our defensive mid.
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Our midfield rotation of 3.5 players is nowhere near good enough to ride out a full game let alone full season, and if our midfield depth improves to the point that someone plays WAFL, that will go a long way to helping the kids develop in both teams.

It’s just cash, and we should have plenty of it.
 
Absolutely. If anything the plan should be for Yeo and Kelly eventually dropping OUT of that rotation as well. Yeo, to preserve his AFL career as an explosive player after years of bash and crash, whilst Kelly because he plays his best footy outside of the contest, preferably forward of centre.

Plenty or room to add a pure midfielder draftee, along with a couple mature bodied pickups as well.

I legit see no reason why Clay Hall shouldn't be starting, or at least rotated through the CBD's come round 1 either. Take Hall out and the midfield depth on our list currently is bordering on non existent.
 
Mulldogg said:
Jesus I thought this bloke was a left footer going off the first few disposals I saw watching this game live. But it actually looks like he’s a natural right footer based off the long kick from a mark at 2:30 of this video.

Kid is genuinely dual sided though and seems to have good burst with decent disposal by hand too. I like the look of him for 2025.
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Wow his kicking looks outstanding.
Add to his good size, clearly provides run & link up.
An awful lot to like.
 
Players traded out :

Barass - pick 13 is a given so it becomes what else Hawthorn attach to that as the interesting part of the trade. Pick 30 would be handy but unlikely to be offered as it would leave Hawthorn as a non factor in this draft since their first pick would be 67

Consensus seems to be we’ll ask for their F1 but with something going back. Probably our F2. If that’s the case I’d be pushing for Hawthorn’s F2 making the trade Barrass for 13,F1 and a swap of F2s (If positions are the same as 2024 then that trade is Barrass and 21 for 13,13 and 31 before shenanigans)

Darling - far simpler proposition. Would like to get 40 off North and send 59 back with Darling but that won’t happen. Instead it’s more likely to be Darling for pick 64 and thank him for his service. Maybe we haggle for 58 but it’s not much difference at that point of the draft

Rotham - a small possibility he gets picked up as a FA with a contract of sufficient length and value to generate band 5 compo which would be pick 42. We can but dream Crazy Vozzo and Rosa do us a solid with Dodoro gone

So best case scenario from the above is we hold picks 3,13,23,42,59,64 in this year’s draft plus 2xF1 picks (ours and Hawthorns), Hawthorns F2 and our F3,F4 and onwards

Then how best to use those assets in either trades or take to the draft

Trades/FA in :

FA - if we get the Rotham compensation mentioned above then Graham is no longer free as we’d lose that pick if we sign Graham as a FA. So bypass him and chase Parfitt as a DFA who’s roughly equivalent in ability and won’t jeopardise that pick

Peatling is the dream but if he does decide to leave GWS he has better suitors than us. That makes Garcia the next best player we’ve been linked to - ideally our F3 would be enough but expect the Bulldogs to request the Rotham compo pick if that happens, which I’d do - maybe with their F4 coming back

Then Carroll or Robertson depending on which of them asks to be traded to us. Probably Robertson. Send Brisbane the 64 we got for Darling, 59 if we’re feeling benevolent

Finally, the most controversial potential acquisition - Liam Baker. He unquestionably improves our best 22 but trade cost has always been the issue. Suggestions are that it’s pick 13 for Baker and 21 which is likely fair value but I’d rather send the Hawthorn F1 instead of 13

Best case scenario from all the above is :

Out: Barrass, Darling, Rotham (with FA compo), F2
In: Baker, Garcia, Robertson, Parfitt, 21, F2(Haw), F4(WB)

Draft picks 2024 - 3,13,21,23,59
Draft picks 2025 - R1,R2(Haw),R3,R4,R4(WB)

Need to open up 9 list spots so

Barrass, Darling, Rotham - Trade/FA
Jones, Trew, Baker - Already delisted
Witherden, L Edwards, one of Culley or Burgiel - to be delisted

Would be happy if Clark can pull that off albeit I think I’d rather use/keep the picks than trade them for Baker
 
Keys said:
Players traded out :

Barass - pick 13 is a given so it becomes what else Hawthorn attach to that as the interesting part of the trade. Pick 30 would be handy but unlikely to be offered as it would leave Hawthorn as a non factor in this draft since their first pick would be 67

Consensus seems to be we’ll ask for their F1 but with something going back. Probably our F2. If that’s the case I’d be pushing for Hawthorn’s F2 making the trade Barrass for 13,F1 and a swap of F2s (If positions are the same as 2024 then that trade is Barrass and 21 for 13,13 and 31 before shenanigans)

Darling - far simpler proposition. Would like to get 40 off North and send 59 back with Darling but that won’t happen. Instead it’s more likely to be Darling for pick 64 and thank him for his service. Maybe we haggle for 58 but it’s not much difference at that point of the draft

Rotham - a small possibility he gets picked up as a FA with a contract of sufficient length and value to generate band 5 compo which would be pick 42. We can but dream Crazy Vozzo and Rosa do us a solid with Dodoro gone

So best case scenario from the above is we hold picks 3,13,23,42,59,64 in this year’s draft plus 2xF1 picks (ours and Hawthorns), Hawthorns F2 and our F3,F4 and onwards

Then how best to use those assets in either trades or take to the draft

Trades/FA in :

FA - if we get the Rotham compensation mentioned above then Graham is no longer free as we’d lose that pick if we sign Graham as a FA. So bypass him and chase Parfitt as a DFA who’s roughly equivalent in ability and won’t jeopardise that pick

Peatling is the dream but if he does decide to leave GWS he has better suitors than us. That makes Garcia the next best player we’ve been linked to - ideally our F3 would be enough but expect the Bulldogs to request the Rotham compo pick if that happens, which I’d do - maybe with their F4 coming back

Then Carroll or Robertson depending on which of them asks to be traded to us. Probably Robertson. Send Brisbane the 64 we got for Darling, 59 if we’re feeling benevolent

Finally, the most controversial potential acquisition - Liam Baker. He unquestionably improves our best 22 but trade cost has always been the issue. Suggestions are that it’s pick 13 for Baker and 21 which is likely fair value but I’d rather send the Hawthorn F1 instead of 13

Best case scenario from all the above is :

Out: Barrass, Darling, Rotham (with FA compo), F2
In: Baker, Garcia, Robertson, Parfitt, 21, F2(Haw), F4(WB)

Draft picks 2024 - 3,13,21,23,59
Draft picks 2025 - R1,R2(Haw),R3,R4,R4(WB)

Need to open up 9 list spots so

Barrass, Darling, Rotham - Trade/FA
Jones, Trew, Baker - Already delisted
Witherden, L Edwards, one of Culley or Burgiel - to be delisted

Would be happy if Clark can pull that off albeit I think I’d rather use/keep the picks than trade them for Baker
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Absolutely nailed it great post. I’d try the F4 swaps for Dev assuming Richmond can give the lions enough (eventual) points for pick 18 to cover Levi and Marshall and would push Essendon to get to band 3 on Rotham to generate pick 24 to trade back to them with 59 for 28 and their F3 for bid matching next year. Culley for a 4R pick if the Richmond interest is genuine, perhaps with our F4 or Lions F4 going back.
 
stallon said:
I dont think Anderson is an A-grader yet, hes very good but hes just below the real A-grade mids.
Pick 7/8ish value maybe? I might be under valuing him a bit though

Did you hear something?
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Yes. Not that he is linked to us in any way though, just one to keep an eye on possibly even this year, but more likely next (I think he is out of contract regardless so chatter would have happened anyway)
 
Obeanie1 said:
Briz is correct and you are wrong.

Before being rude and telling others to stick to their lanes maybe go get a licence and learn how to drive yourself first.;):cool:
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Holy heck!!!!! Beanie is defending Brizkent. I've seen everything now
 
flamingEMBERS said:
I like O’Halloran and hope Phillip has enquired
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I don’t rate him much at all. Seems a massive ball butcher and is a bit of a weak link in their side when he plays imo. Big mature body obviously and has his days but if he’s anywhere other than a forward pocket you can’t trust him with your ball movement.
 
eaglevision said:
Absolutely nailed it great post. I’d try the F4 swaps for Dev assuming Richmond can give the lions enough (eventual) points for pick 18 to cover Levi and Marshall and would push Essendon to get to band 3 on Rotham to generate pick 24 to trade back to them with 59 for 28 and their F3 for bid matching next year. Culley for a 4R pick if the Richmond interest is genuine, perhaps with our F4 or Lions F4 going back.
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Culley and ???? for baker? Makes getting baker in more palatable.

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Wooshaaaa said:
Culley and ???? for baker? Makes getting baker in more palatable.

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Watched a podcast and a Tigers supporter talked up Culley as a good target for the Tigers in the Baker trade.

He then admitted to playing against him and going to the same school so a bit of bromance going on there.

His opinion was Culley is a tall forward who can pinch hit in the midfield. Not a midfielder. And I would agree.

He also thought that is one of the needs at the Tigers. Taller forwards. The fact he can play higher up the ground is a bonus.
 
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