List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[pantskyle]

On Baker, I know he wants to look after Richmond, but he also wants to come West. He should want whoever he comes to to be the best they can be.

Would be more than happy for us to pass on trading for him and to commit to picking him up in the PSD. If he said he wants to go to WA only Tigers and North would pass on him. If he doesn't want to go that route, and we can't get him for a cheap trade then move on, pass.

Sadly no one seems to want to do that and force the issue.

Tigers want him to stay and he seems open to it, if he went to the PSD Tigers would definitely pick him up, in fact I reckon North would as well.
Neither of those teams are turning down a best 22 player who isn't 100% committed to leaving Victoria.

 

[eaglevision]

Schoey saying he has heard JD is seriously considering the offer to play elsewhere

Fantastic. As long as we get a pick(s) we can use then I hope and expect the club is supporting that.

 

[Tugga27]

Schoey saying he has heard JD is seriously considering the offer to play elsewhere

If what's being reported is true, that North have offered him a 3year deal, he'd be crazy not to.

 

[Andyy]

That’s nice Andy but when Richmond fans are happy with the trade, it tells me he isn’t worth what is suggested when out of contract.

Problem is he isn’t a bull, a goal kicker, big tackler. He is a midget. Bit of everything who suited Richmond game plan.

He has some value for sure but early to mid second at best.

Didn't say I was 'happy' about it, but TBH I think I'm usually quite a reasonable supporter and this is why I prefer to have discussion on other boards - the one-eyed fans of your own club are sometimes the worst perspectives.

We've had that discussion ourselves (Baker's strengths) and I would say his overhead marking, for a midget, is actually exceptional. Contested ball winner and has great ability to play wherever required - he's played back, forward, midfield etc for us at various stages. And as alluded to earlier he's a great leader.

Would you be guaranteed that at P23 (slide to 26-28 at least)? Likely not.

 

[mattyc75]

Schoey saying he has heard JD is seriously considering the offer to play elsewhere

Let's hope so

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[Art OF war]

Emerging Eagles sign on

West Coast has extended the contracts of an exciting young duo

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

ARCHER!!!

The forgotten Reid and Rawlinson have extended their contracts, post season list is slowly becoming clearer. Not thrilled about Rawlinson but very happy Archer has extended, he was one I was a bit worried about.

2 more years (End of 2027 season) for Archer is excellent for WC. He's going to be a force when he's grown into his body and has a few preseasons under his belt.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Tigers want him to stay and he seems open to it, if he went to the PSD Tigers would definitely pick him up, in fact I reckon North would as well.
Neither of those teams are turning down a best 22 player who isn't 100% committed to leaving Victoria.

That's the rub. He'd need to come out and say he's moving back to WA and doesn't want to stay in Vic.

No one has ever gone against the express wishes of an out of contract senior player who states they only want to go to one state.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Schoey saying he has heard JD is seriously considering the offer to play elsewhere

Just listened to it. If a club's crazy enough to offer him two or perhaps even three years for an aging player who literally played like four decent games this year then you'd be crazy not to take them up on it.

 

[Barrybran]

Emerging Eagles sign on

West Coast has extended the contracts of an exciting young duo

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

ARCHER!!!

The forgotten Reid and Rawlinson have extended their contracts, post season list is slowly becoming clearer. Not thrilled about Rawlinson but very happy Archer has extended, he was one I was a bit worried about.

Forgotten Reid. You wash your mouth out!

 

[Jupes]

Schoey saying he has heard JD is seriously considering the offer to play elsewhere

basically said the north deal is a goer

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

(I come in peace).

If Bolton is traded to Freo for P9 + P10, how would WCE fans feel about Baker + P9 for P3 + P23?

Talk indicates that Barrass will go to Hawks for P12.

So would be:
Out - Barrass, 3, 23
In - Baker, 9, 12

That puts Bakers value at pick 8, which is way too high.

 

[kane249]

If what's being reported is true, that North have offered him a 3year deal, he'd be crazy not to.

Shades of when Lynch went to Collingwood to finish his career

 

[KBLT]

We come in peace, shoot to kill shoot to kill shoot to kill.

 

[shooshka]

Didn't say I was 'happy' about it, but TBH I think I'm usually quite a reasonable supporter and this is why I prefer to have discussion on other boards - the one-eyed fans of your own club are sometimes the worst perspectives.

We've had that discussion ourselves (Baker's strengths) and I would say his overhead marking, for a midget, is actually exceptional. Contested ball winner and has great ability to play wherever required - he's played back, forward, midfield etc for us at various stages. And as alluded to earlier he's a great leader.

Would you be guaranteed that at P23 (slide to 26-28 at least)? Likely not.

For us, I think he is less likely a mid (although we do lack quality on the wings) and more likely a small forward or back (back depending on who we retain or delist).

Agree the likelihood is that a player taken at 26-28 (live draft) is not going to get to Bakers level, but also would say it is unlikely teams pick a small defender or forward (unless an absolutely elite small fwd) in the top 20.

But yeah, massaging 38 up to 22 for Graham and trading our F2 seems a decent deal. Better than 23 + 38 imo.


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[DanWCE]

basically said the north deal is a goer

Yeah he doubled down on it in far more convincing fashion further into the podcast

 

[Wooshaaaa]

3 yrs for darling and we pay some salary, for pick 40. Do it.

Allows us to hopefully get ahead of a champion bid and find a slider in the draft.

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[Wooshaaaa]

Or trade it for peatling, Garcia etal

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[Hoskin300]

Emerging Eagles sign on

West Coast has extended the contracts of an exciting young duo

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

ARCHER!!!

The forgotten Reid and Rawlinson have extended their contracts, post season list is slowly becoming clearer. Not thrilled about Rawlinson but very happy Archer has extended, he was one I was a bit worried about.

Plenty of other players to delist before Rawlinson.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

JD for 40
TB for 12 30
3 23 for 6 9 29

Draft night.
6 9 12 29 40 59

In
Graham
Baker F2
Peatling for 30

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[RanaNaved]

Wait, 3 years for Jack Darling

27

Jack Darling

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

?

IF that is true, Brady Rawlings

Brady Rawlings

Age

43

Ht

184cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.8

3star

is completely mental

 

[flyinghi64]

Scroll up

Scroll up he says,
3 pages of "I come in peace" Bakers worth this, no he's not he's worth this, no he's not etc
Finally found something and yes seems like a good get.

 

[Patron]

JD for 40
TB for 12 30
3 23 for 6 9 29

Draft night.
6 9 12 29 40 59

In
Graham
Baker F2
Peatling for 30

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Looks great, but I don’t see us getting quite that good a deal on the Richmond pick swap.

That’s the draft hand we should be taking though, would go a huge way to the rebuild.

If we didn’t get peatling (feels unlikely) maybe the pick 30 could go to Richmond with another swap. They could get package a bunch of their points to Brisbane for their first.


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[Peptide Pig]

Stringer 'line ball' to stay at Bombers as surprise suitor emerges

A surprise rival has emerged as a potential suitor for Essendon forward Jake Stringer

www.afl.com.au

Talk of Stringer to Swans. Any implications through a WCE lense? Would the Swans be more open to letting Chad go a year early? At the very least would push Sheldrick even further down the list for mid rotations. Swans already have picks 18 & 19 so wouldn’t need to trade for picks but the addition of Stringer would impact their list demographic and salary cap which could open up some possibilities for us.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

(I come in peace).

If Bolton is traded to Freo for P9 + P10, how would WCE fans feel about Baker + P9 for P3 + P23?

Talk indicates that Barrass will go to Hawks for P12.

So would be:
Out - Barrass, 3, 23
In - Baker, 9, 12

 

[maverick001]

Your reply above, to my rebuttal of your original post





Your original post ........ that I replied to.

Bolded reads and sounds like a statement to me.




Tip maybe don't make statements on players ability, on the basis of ONLY watching one highlights package.

Do some research.

" His kicking looked very suspect" , was your statement.

His last two games.

Round 21 16 possessions 3 goals 1
Final week 1. 21 possessions 4 goals straight.

As a high half forward, the stats looks pretty elite to me.

Hopefully thats enough useful comments for you to realise that it's you that has been the dick.

OR , you could read the entire post in whole, which provides the context.
I.e. IF his kicking is suspect I wouldn’t want to spend top 30 on him (unless he’s an inside mid which he doesn’t sound like it). But then the last sentence is an invitation to be corrected on his kicking ability if it is actually not so bad.

Not everyone has the time to dedicate hours upon hours to watching footage. If I was actually a recruiter obviously I wouldn’t make a decision based on one highlights package. Surely your expectation isn’t that everyone on big footy has done this sort of research.

Looking at stats alone doesn’t provide a compelling case for where someone should be drafted. There’s been lots of guys who can rack it up but don’t get drafted at all or go late, for qualitative reasons rather than quantitative, no doubt you’re aware of that.