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  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted

  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."




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The term bed wetter has been used recently to describe some posts.

This is yet another example.

Can people just hold there melts until there is something to actually melt abiut.

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It's all the media nonsense around Baker for 13 that has people worried. Baker isn't worth a pick 13-18 and Barrass should be worth a lot more. Our starting offer should be 23 for Baker and we should hold that as long as possible.

Dream scenario is we land Hawks future 1st and we flip that for Baker. Another option is to try to upgrade 13 up the draft order which would take 13 off the table.

Probably be something like this without a more creative 3-way trade.

WC: Lose Barrass and gain Pick 13 & 30 Hawthorn minor win.
Richmond: Lose Baker, 29 and gain pick 13. Richmond win.

West Coast final hand.
Final hand 3, 23, 29, 30.
 

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I have a gut feeling smillie could be an option for us, is a 2 person tackle, so is harley and yeo. Smillie would leave harley 1 on 1 on the outside, add in someone zippy like TT and its a nightmare match up

Split pick 3.

Get two cracks at the top 10.

Everone frothing over Draper need to chill. Bad back now and Draper will slide. FOS looks like sliding as well. These are the two options some have been saying we must retain pick 3 to get. We dont.

IMO 6 and 9 would land two of FOS, Smillie, Draper, Travagalia, Lalor, Langford or Lindsay. 7 players. Ried will be in that cohort but not an option from reports.

Jagga, and Ashcroft land top 3.

Thats the top 10.
 
Gee, it's not even trade week yet and people are still pissing their pants over what some journos are saying based off Twomey's thought bubble over what WCE are likely to offer for Baker, despite Pyke saying we're not going to sell the farm and want to keep our early picks.
 
Dream scenario is we land Hawks future 1st and we flip that for Baker. Another option is to try to upgrade 13 up the draft order which would take 13 off the table.
No that isnt the dream lmfao. There's some sort of mass stockholm syndrome going on in here where people are hoping we get bent over and pay overs for an out of contract player because the media have set the parameters for the discussion by talking up trades for baker involving pick 3, so somehow giving up what will likely be a mid first is somehow a "dream scenario". Can you all please wipe the media's shit off your lips. Anything more than 23 is a failure and ideally it should be our F2, Richmond has no leverage.
 
Split pick 3.

Get two cracks at the top 10.

Everone frothing over Draper need to chill. Bad back now and Draper will slide. FOS looks like sliding as well. These are the two options some have been saying we must retain pick 3 to get. We dont.

IMO 6 and 9 would land two of FOS, Smillie, Draper, Travagalia, Lalor, Langford or Lindsay. 7 players. Ried will be in that cohort but not an option from reports.

Jagga, and Ashcroft land top 3.

Thats the top 10.
Then who is realistically going to be an option for splitting with if this is all true?
 
It's all the media nonsense around Baker for 13 that has people worried. Baker isn't worth a pick 13-18 and Barrass should be worth a lot more. Our starting offer should be 23 for Baker and we should hold that as long as possible.

Dream scenario is we land Hawks future 1st and we flip that for Baker. Another option is to try to upgrade 13 up the draft order which would take 13 off the table.

Probably be something like this without a more creative 3-way trade.

WC: Lose Barrass and gain Pick 13 & 30 Hawthorn minor win.
Richmond: Lose Baker, 29 and gain pick 13. Richmond win.

West Coast final hand.
Final hand 3, 23, 29, 30.
Any 1R pick is a horrendous deal. The ideal scenario given that we had committed is F2 and 22 Graham compo for Baker and Graham which IMO is overs anyway. Add Culley if there are tears. We also need to be prepared to say sorry Liam, Richmond are asking for too much.
 
It's all the media nonsense around Baker for 13 that has people worried. Baker isn't worth a pick 13-18 and Barrass should be worth a lot more. Our starting offer should be 23 for Baker and we should hold that as long as possible.

Dream scenario is we land Hawks future 1st and we flip that for Baker. Another option is to try to upgrade 13 up the draft order which would take 13 off the table.

Probably be something like this without a more creative 3-way trade.

WC: Lose Barrass and gain Pick 13 & 30 Hawthorn minor win.
Richmond: Lose Baker, 29 and gain pick 13. Richmond win.

West Coast final hand.
Final hand 3, 23, 29, 30.
You've lost the plot.
 

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With Daniher gone, im hoping the Lions are in Bailey Williams ear and wanting him to go. As much as Brisbane have nothing to offer, they also have some guys about to join Dev Robertson in the 2's we can probably get in the ear of

Darcy Wilmot for Williams + 30 in would be something worth pursuing. Good age and versatility
 
Redden was pure mid from the get go though. Baker has played most of his career as a back pocket/forward flanker
From memory redden hadn't played his best footy for a couple of years before we got him(could be wrong?)
Redden was treacle slow with little versatility

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Shelter footycast- schoey

Wce should take the Geelong method ask for 13 + 30 + f1 for barass or either float him to Sydney or hold him to his contract

Very vaguely- could be a link for rotham to Carlton

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Wonder if his an Barra's comments have been 'encouraged' in private by Pyke, considering they both do work for the club from time to time.

Could be pushback against the media reports of us overpaying and wanting to reassure the fans a bit.
 
Wonder if his an Barra's comments have been 'encouraged' in private by Pyke, considering they both do work for the club from time to time.

Could be pushback against the media reports of us overpaying and wanting to reassure the fans a bit.
It actually surprised me how positive he was towards westcoast. If we get 13, 30 and f1 we know the clubs back on the rise

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Shelter footycast- schoey

Wce should take the Geelong method ask for 13 + 30 + f1 for barass or either float him to Sydney or hold him to his contract

Very vaguely- could be a link for rotham to Carlton

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Carlton is the one if they miss out on Houston. We offer to pay some of his salary.

If not get the Dogs involved if they are still interested.

North? Go play with Jack?

Or hold him if it’s 13 and we use that on Baker
 
2010-2020 pick 15 National Draft.

2010: Billie Smedts (Cats)
2011: Brandon Ellis (Tigers)
2012: Taylor Garner (Nth)
2013: Zac Jones (Swans)
2014: Jarrod Garlett (Suns)
2015: Daniel Rioli (Tigers)
2016: Jordan Gallucci (Crows)
2017: Zac Bailey (Lions)
2018: Jordan Clarke (Cats)
2019: Cody Weightman (dogs)
2020: Conor Stone (Giants)
 
2010-2020 pick 15 National Draft.

2010: Billie Smedts (Cats)
2011: Brandon Ellis (Tigers)
2012: Taylor Garner (Nth)
2013: Zac Jones (Swans)
2014: Jarrod Garlett (Suns)
2015: Daniel Rioli (Tigers)
2016: Jordan Gallucci (Crows)
2017: Zac Bailey (Lions)
2018: Jordan Clarke (Cats)
2019: Cody Weightman (dogs)
2020: Conor Stone (Giants)
what's that about 50:50
 
Carlton is the one if they miss out on Houston. We offer to pay some of his salary.

If not get the Dogs involved if they are still interested.

North? Go play with Jack?

Or hold him if it’s 13 and we use that on Baker
Rotham is out of contract, can we still pay some of his salary if he's signing a fresh contract with a new club?
 

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