List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted

  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."




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If the club didn't think Garcia was a good fit, then we are hardly going to chase him.
The club would know better than us if it was a good move. If we haven't shown much interest then it mustn't be a good fit. Could be a multitude of reasons why
You have wayyyy too much faith in the club
 
Don’t know what the bedwetting is about.
3 for 6 and baker is exponentially better deal than 14 for baker.
6- Still will have a chance at one of the leftover mids, likely including smilie who is being severely slept on.
14- Chance at possibly the surest thing in the draft in Lindsay. Bloke has a class left boot, can play anywhere from wing to HB to inside mid, and fill a hole of ours in outside footy.
 

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I think Twomey was pushing him to ask if pick 3 was to be involved in the Baker trade, as Barrass trade isn't done of course.

Clarke just went on to say that they're open to offers for pick 3 and have spoken with a few clubs and will reach out to others.

Basically, open to offers that benefit the club.

He did go on to answering about splitting 3 - but that was in response to a follow up question, not the one on whether 3 could be used in the Baker deal (see above...)
 
Darling trade is a matter of paperwork now

Eagles and Hawks seem to both agree it will require more than pick 13 to get the barrass trade done

Looks like we should get both wrapped up fairly early
 
Darling trade is a matter of paperwork now

Eagles and Hawks seem to both agree it will require more than pick 13 to get the barrass trade done

Looks like we should get both wrapped up fairly early

Doesn't sound like Barrass deal will be done early in the trade period. Seems to be consensus it is a late deal.
 
He did go on to answering about splitting 3 - but that was in response to a follow up question, not the one on whether 3 could be used in the Baker deal (see above...)
Yeah, i saw your previous post. Bit of a nothing response really though, just "We're open to things" kinda response in regards to a direct question from Cal.
 
Yeah, i saw your previous post. Bit of a nothing response really though, just "We're open to things" kinda response in regards to a direct question from Cal.

True... I just can't see in what world a Baker deal should in any way involve our pick 3 & worries me that he won't outright rule it out (even for example if Barrass deal doesn't get done).
 
No.

Dev made the mistake of signing a two-year contract last year - he's contracted to the end of 2025.

F3 picks are worth nothing now with changed points coming in, and Brisbane are only concerned with gaining points this year for Ashcroft and Marshall.

Lions will hold him to his contract unless an offer comes in that is well above his value and helps their points situation.

They won't IMO.

They will move him on as its a waste of a list spot, time and money to retain him. Lose lose.

Too bad for the Lions that F3rds don't hold much in points value. Ours likely will, just.

As a related note the Lions should be enquiring about Bailey with Daniher retiring. They need a ruck / forward.

And yes, we all know the jury is out RE can Bailey play forward.
 

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True... I just can't see in what world a Baker deal should in any way involve our pick 3 & worries me that he won't outright rule it out (even for example if Barrass deal doesn't get done).
If it lands us an additional pick inside 12 and we still get the player we want, then does it really matter?
 
No.

Dev made the mistake of signing a two-year contract last year - he's contracted to the end of 2025.

F3 picks are worth nothing now with changed points coming in, and Brisbane are only concerned with gaining points this year for Ashcroft and Marshall.

Lions will hold him to his contract unless an offer comes in that is well above his value and helps their points situation.

you have to question signing a player who can't make a good decision.
 
nuffie on trade radio asking if we can split 3 for 15, 16 and 21 and ship 21 off for dev

Feeling Dumb Jim Carrey GIF
 
If it lands us an additional pick inside 12 and we still get the player we want, then does it really matter?

How does using pick 3 on Baker deal get us an  additional pick in top 12?

Losing pick 3 and gaining pick Baker and some pick in top 12 still leaves us with just the 1 pick in top 12.

Would prefer to just split pick 3 for 2 picks in top 12.
 
How does using pick 3 on Baker deal get us an  additional pick in top 12?

Losing pick 3 and gaining pick Baker and some pick in top 12 still leaves us with just the 1 pick in top 12.

Would prefer to just split pick 3 for 2 picks in top 12.
Dunno but there could be multiple clubs involved. We don't have to deal with just Richmond.
 

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