List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted


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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."




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the list managers have already done all their trades, they're just holding onto the paperwork so they can look busy to their respective clubs while they all secretly sneak down to the pub
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I do wonder with Garcia gone, if we are targeting Jack Carroll, I could picture Carroll as a left foot wingman/mid for us.
It’s good to have a left footer in the team for those clutch moments.

Watched a bit of Jaxon Prior. WA youngster OOC at the Lions

Nice left foot and pretty clutch snapping and kicking on goal for a half back.

Melceski like.
 
have you even seen him play?
Or just your usual clown posts.

Well both really. But I don't think you quite understand what I'm getting at.
 

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How. Nothing has happened yet?

Obviously you can wet your pants worryi g about what might happen.

But it's pretty difficult to be bent over before any deal has even been finalised.

You need to cool down and save the melts for when something actually happens.

Talk about jumping at shadows. Geeeeeez.
We bent over when we didn’t ask for a priority pick because Oscar Allen kicked a nice goal with 20 seconds to go…..
 
To be fair, its getting close to the time that Yeo and Kelly start to spend a little less time in the middle.
Hewett probably plays shorter stints in the middle, Hutch might not be an inside mid for us, Baker might be better off on a flank, Graham could just push out Cripps, and we might not have pick 3 as it could be split for Travaglia + whatever.
There can be room for another mid in the side if they were good enough
Yeah fair, but point I was trying to make was he had his chance to be 4th inline, and now 2 drafts and some trade ins have taken his spot so if he leaves Brisbane it'll prob be for guaranteed minutes. I don't think westcoast can guarantee him a spot atm

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Watched a bit of Jaxon Prior. WA youngster OOC at the Lions

Nice left foot and pretty clutch snapping and kicking on goal for a half back.

Melceski like.
If he is available at pick 2 in the rookie draft and we don’t take him. I’ll strangle Liam Baker to create a list spot
 
I'd rather give midfield minutes to Hutchinson/Hall. Dev blew his chance. His best bet would be trying to get to Richmond now.

Yeo
Reid
Tk
Hewett
Hutchinson
Pick 3
Baker
Graham
Hall
Dev -------- 10th in line
Sheed
Culley

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I missed the Geelong game in Geelong because it was the Geelong game in Geelong, but did Hutchinson really go from a forward to our 5th best mid in one 100 point arse pounding?

And Hewett 4th from no games in 2024?

I daresay if our depth is that shit Dev may have a spot.
 
I missed the Geelong game in Geelong because it was the Geelong game in Geelong, but did Hutchinson really go from a forward to our 5th best mid in one 100 point arse pounding?

And Hewett 4th from no games in 2024?

I daresay if our depth is that shit Dev may have a spot.

Yeah was great when put into the midfield!
 
Melbourne are trying to put the f1 and their second pick in for Essendons pick 9.

We can literally turn barass (14 + f2 likely) into Travaglia if stkilda overlook him still or alternatively turn barass into pick 9 as long as we don't bend over to Richmond

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I missed the Geelong game in Geelong because it was the Geelong game in Geelong, but did Hutchinson really go from a forward to our 5th best mid in one 100 point arse pounding?

And Hewett 4th from no games in 2024?

I daresay if our depth is that shit Dev may have a spot.
Yeah probably overkill on my behalf I just don't want to trade him in imo hewett will be a star and Hutchinson looked very good but still to early to tell

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23 yo PSA boy who was pick #22 in 2019, if we can get him for cheap then it's definitely value

we are desperate for some midfield depth in this team, we rely so heavily on Reid/Kelly/Yeo
Pick 22 in 2019 mean jack shit now. Even a late picks might mean missing out on a Hamish Davis or Urquhart or someone similar

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I doubt it's much but given how out of favour he was last year I'm surprised we didn't just pay him out and let him have a proper retirement
Sandover medal to come, no sense paying him out when we had double digit list moves to make without breaking a sweat.
 
Not exactly distilling confidence in their aptitude at management level eh?

They're too busy complaining about being hamstrung with their recruitment to concentrate on their recruitment.
 
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Your belief that clubs routinely play silly buggers in relation to compensation picks is fundamentally false

It doesn’t happen, certainly not when it would benefit another club

Firstly, it’s fairly unique that a club targeting a FA is also in trade negotiations with that players club for a separate player like we are with Graham and Baker.

So in most instances there’s no benefit for a club to overpay to generate a better compensation pick for the free agents former club. Hawthorn with Battle, Collingwood with Perryman and Adelaide with Cumming couldn’t give a shit what compo GWS and St Kilda received - their priority was getting the player without paying any more than necessary to get their signature

In our situation, it’s a long bow to draw to suggest that paying extra for Graham would result in a lesser pick being required for Baker. First up we likely wouldn’t know how much extra to pay to increase the compensation - would an extra $50k per year make a difference? If it doesn’t we just blew $200k for no benefit

Then you’ve also got the issue where you paying someone more than their worth which can have a ripple effect through your playing list when it comes to contract negotiations

The one time there is shenanigans is where it’s a restricted free agent so a club pays extra to avoid a matching situation that forces a trade. Like what Essendon did last year with McKay. They’d paid overs so North would get band 1 compo and therefore not match meaning Essendon avoided having to trade for McKay

We would’ve been stupid to pay extra for Graham

Well for me, your belief that there aren't those at clubs that don't do everything to rort the system or gain ANY sort of advantage is fundamentally. false. So agree to disagree.
And I mean you give an obvious example yourself in the second last paragraph.
We've seen the system twisted all sorts of ways.

I'm nowhere near close to any sort of expert though - I was only repeating what I had media peoples suggest may be going on, so hearing them suggest I'm of the opinion that if even managing to conjure just band 3 instead of 4 (although I wouldnt even know the pick difference) enabled us to pay slightly unders for Baker per an understanding then I would be all for it. But like I said, just repeating what I heard others suggest...

Btw, players get paid 'overs' all the time to move to clubs. Or to stay at clubs.
 


Not Eagles related but ****ing lol. What an approach.

Saints thinking its a salary dump .

Macrae is on 800k + for the next 3 years and not best 22 .

Bulldogs turned around and want a decent pick for him lol .

Saints waiting till the end of trade period to see if the dogs realise saints are doing them a favour by taking on his contract .

Dogs should be packing macrae bags
 

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