List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."




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Hey guys, just checking in with the latest news.
Have we traded Koby Stevens yet?
 
Hardwick is probably exerting pressure on the recruiting staff, I want Rioli no matter what it costs .


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Dyl Alexander did a good video on it last night in YouTube. Explains very clearly why GC would happily overpay.
 

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Yeah the what the experts think explanation is pretty weak, they've made plenty of obvious mistakes and people here are reasonably informed. We were melting about the Chesser pick, a lot of us were melting about the trade back and missing Sheezel/Wardlaw (I get why). Nothing's paid off from these.

I know eaglevision mentioned Melbourne are looking at Bo Allan so that may be where Twomey is coming from, can't help but feel we're being buttered up for a 'he was our preference at 3 so we might as well trade back and get an extra pick'. Hold me.

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Hey guys, just checking in with the latest news.
Have we traded Koby Stevens yet?

Thankfully yes, he's been keeping Ebert from getting midfield minutes. Hopefully we can see the best from Brad now.


Or Brett, I honestly can't remember which one we had, they both had gigantic noggins.
 
You know who wouldn't need to play in other positions day 1? Sid Draper and Harvey Langford. Jagga also wouldn't be plonked in another position day 1

Very, very few players walk into an inside mid position day 1.

Langford is a pretty decent half forward and will start there with stints in the middle.

Jagga, same HFF wing before getting big inside mid minutes.

Draper similar, HFF, wing and rotations on ball.

Can you name any mids who just walked into an AFL teams inside midfield day 1?

I can recall one. Chris Judd.
 
Very, very few players walk into an inside mid position day 1.

Langford is a pretty decent half forward and will start there with stints in the middle.

Jagga, same HFF wing before getting big inside mid minutes.

Draper similar, HFF, wing and rotations on ball.

Can you name any mids who just walked into an AFL teams inside midfield day 1?

I can recall one. Chris Judd.
Can think of another, name slips my mind however…
 
Trade week update:
WCE- yet to see any movement on either the Barrass trade or the Baker trade however the BF board is sending out a flood warning as they need to release 2 dam gates as the level of piss is threatening to cause a catestrophic dam wall failure without a release. Authorities are concerned the gates wont be able to deal with the catchment deluge when a deal does get done.
Residents are advised to evacuate the state if able to do so.

Well don't book a holiday to Florida.

Its looking like this thread ATM, raining (pissing) cats and dogs.

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We can all have our own opinions on players and drafts but at the end of the day we get no say, I've long since gotten over getting worked up over trades and drafts.

I've had one recruiter tell me we should consider ourselves lucky that such a good player in Baker wants to play for us, going by a lot of opinions here we're mad to even be considering him.

Nothings ever going to be universally accepted unless it is H.Reid pick 1.
Did this recruiter say he'd be happy to give an early teens pick for him?
 
Give a man 30 days to clean the house and it’ll take him 30 days to clean the house. The same applies to trade period.
I think I understand now why I never complete any trades
 

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Did this recruiter say he'd be happy to give an early teens pick for him?

It could also be pick 17 with matched bids. At least 3 players could be matched on before it.
 
Sometimes a good nights sleep and a dose of common sense can help in trade and draft season.

We have 5 major issues facing Pyke.
1. The men's list is in a poor state of affairs thanks to having gone and trying to back up after 2018. It did not eventuate however we were late by at least a season coming to the that conclusion. As such, the list has holes you could drive a Mac truck through. Good news, we started addressing it last year.

2. We have agreed to a cluster fcuk with the WAFL set up and thanks to King Nessie I, relationships had been strained and the WAFL clubs despised us. He has also not invested the personnel at the to address development. We have sucked in development for over 6 years. We really need an even playing field meaning the vAFL have got to abandon the VFL and structure up an AFL Reserves competition. That will cost the AFL big $$ and the only beneficiaries are the SA and WA meaning it is a low priority. So Woosher has been brought in to try to help and Pyke has at least started the WAFC discussions and get some focus on development (along with Hurn).

3.The Eagles women have had a pathetic start to the competition and I have a personal view that King Nessie I did not prioritise it soon enough. Playing at those crap spectator facilities at Lathlain Park is a major deterrent and not sure what will happen there (we probably need to work with the Dockers and WAFC to develop a boutique 20,000 stadium for WAFL and Women's football. At least Daisy is now on board (great appointment and look at the results).

4. Our men have been uncompetitive for too long. It will soon materially start to impact memberships, sponsorships and long term allegiances in kids growing up in WA. Successful clubs get the locals interested and Freo are playing better football and offering more hope. We need to rectify that and start rising up from the bottom of the ladder.

5. Harley. We have a generation talent and a group led by Noah Long called "Us Young Boys" that re offering hope. But the speed of the improvement will need addressing as the "complicated" Kane draft rules is really compromising us and the outcome is that it is slower for clubs to rise off the bottom. Finishing last in 2023 our first 2 natural picks were at 1 and 30 and not much will change in 2024. Therefore, we need to get Harley really engaged in our programme and be wanting to commit. He needs help with mature bodies in the midfield and Yeo, Sheed and Kelly are not the answer.


Stepping back, if we only trade out Barrass and Darling, we take to the draft 3, 14, 26, 63 and 68 (assuming our sweetener for the Barrass trade is in 2025).

Pick who you want at those levels but a reasonable haul would be
3 - FOS or Draper or Lalor
14 - Lindsay or Berry or Allan
26 - Moraes or Gross or O'Farrell
(please do not come back with who you personally would take, you are missing the point)

If eaglevision has the correct intel (and half the posters are starting to wet the bed), we do the following
3 for 6 and 18
14 for Baker and 24
Barrass for 14 and F2

We take to the draft
6 - Travaglia or a sliding mid like Lalor or Draper or Smillie
18 - Hynes or Lindsay
24 - Gross or Oliver
26 - Moraes or Gross or O'Farrell
plus we bring in Baker and Graham to help give us a more competitive unit and to provide Harley with the midfield support we need.

Step back. Take a cold shower and reflect. We improve our list immediately and for the long term. We also strengthened our future hand. It is a decent outcome. Maybe not what everyone wants but it will fix a number of issues Pyke and co are facing and we are getting frustrated at.

Would I prefer Lindsay to Baker plus Gross/Oliver? Yes but not by that much of a margin.


Here is a possible list by age by position: -

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It will mean in 2025 :

  1. Harley gets less banged up and can reduce his midfield minutes to be the burst player who runs through the guts.
  2. We will still have 55% of our list 22 and under which is extremely high
  3. We will be able to go to Optus and not have our ar$eholes handed at the end of the second quarter. We may even win 6 games and start to get a game plan that is contemporary.
  4. We may start to look at the WAFL games and not cringe
Most sane post here in days…
Hey guys, just checking in with the latest news.
Have we traded Koby Stevens yet?
Yeah for Partington, Newman, Jordan Jones & Ash Smith.
 
Very, very few players walk into an inside mid position day 1.

Langford is a pretty decent half forward and will start there with stints in the middle.

Jagga, same HFF wing before getting big inside mid minutes.

Draper similar, HFF, wing and rotations on ball.

Can you name any mids who just walked into an AFL teams inside midfield day 1?

I can recall one. Chris Judd.
Matt Rowell.

Will Ashcroft.
 
Ok but have you considered this six team trade that leaves us with 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, Baker, Barrass, Robertson and Graham?

Why can’t they just do that? If we make a bunch of trades and win slightly on each of them then we’ll be up massive across the trade period, and that’s how these things work in reality right?
I’d want more if we have to give up pick 67 for Robertson.

67 effectively represents Darling. Darling played 298 games and is second highest goal kicker at the Eagles. What has Robertson ever achieved? Surely our next pick after 67 gets it done, but for 67 I think we will need something else back.

If we are going to fold at the trade table so easily, let’s just fold the club. Sack Woosha, sack the board, burn down MRP and welcome the Tigers as our new footballing overlords.

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