List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
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  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Balls In]

In the end, its not melt worthy, phew!

Like hell it's not. The pick #3 trade is the worst post season incompetence of our entire history. Every dimwit involved should be sacked.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

I can’t see why people are melting with a Full Draft Hand for Barrass. (4th Rounder’s will be pretty worthless next year)

If those 3 picks in theory net us Warner for Barrass would you call that a win?

I was actually talking to my wife about instant gratification this morning and I think it’s on full show. People just don’t want to wait, they want there shiny new toy now.

If that shiny new toy is Warner in a year well I don’t think people will be melting then. (He’s will also be cheap seeing as he’s OOC)

If we want Warner we tell him now he will need to nominate PSD so we can use our picks getting some more elite talent to surround you with

 

[WCE_4_EVER]

WCE_phil please take Clark to whore island but throw him off the plane as it’s just about to land

Guys what happens WCE_phil is Clark

 

[boondy]

Jokes on you Hawk's!

Tom has a bad back and will be 43 going into next year HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

As soon as Tom said he wanted out this was all on him . Look at a lot of our last bunch hitting his age . Nic Nat . Shuey . Yeo . McGovern. In moneyball terms getting all hawks draft hand for him is start the car stuff .

 

[Corkintheocean]

Smith will be an absolute star for 10 more years. Heaps of players do ACLs and are fine. The off field stuff is overblown because of his online persona, and it’ll get quashed down in Geelong anyway.

Geelong have basically rebuilt their midfield:
Bruhn, Smith, Bowes, Clark

With pick 18 and 17

Smith can't kick the footy. He can run though - will grant him that.

 

[pantskyle]

Hawks will have a tougher draw next season so that could play into things. Premiership odds today mean **** all.

Now let's take DGB for free.

 

[Gazeah78]

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Sounds like he has no idea.

Time to get PieMan back in the fold.


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[Wce17]

I get the sentiment but picks, 18, 36, 54 aren't getting Chad.

Hawks aren’t finishing 1st. Can see them in the 8 - 10th range. Even if it’s not all those hawks picks involved for Warner it still means we can bring on Warner & still have picks to use for other kids this year or next.

 

[WCE_phil]

Right, before I go for drinks i'll give a few extra details.

We couldn't take Owies as a DFA as Carlton were willing to offer him a 1 year deal and with all the players Richmond were losing they would have taken him in the PSD or he entered the ND and was likely still picked up before we had an opportunity to use a third pick on him. The picks the club had at that part of the draft were considered negligible. Players can't just delist themselves if there is even a 1 year offer on the table on small money.

Someone overcommitted to Baker which put us on the backfoot from the beginning. People need to understand though that if a deal wasn't done he would have re-signed with Richmond. Baker and Bolton do not get along and refused to be at the same club next year. Baker pulled a Judd and said he would only come if the Tigers were adequately compensated and Graham came as well. I'm still very unhappy with the trade however it really was a rock and a hard place situation. Mini was adamant about Graham and Baker and so was Clarke. I was pulled out of that one. So the moment we weren't able to get the tigers band 3 compo for Graham and he was confirmed as coming Richmond held the whip hand.

If Sydney won the grand final pick 3 and our future first was going to Sydney for Warner and what is now pick 22.

Darling was a goodwill trade (for Jack, not north)

The club as it stands currently will be taking minimal picks in this draft and next year will have up to 4 first round picks to use / trade as well as multiple seconds and thirds. Next years draft has imo better top end talents but when you take all the club tied players out nowhere near the depth.

I firmly believe in the depth of this draft and that all of the top picks have major question marks. Also a few who don't want to come to WA. They don't outright come and say it, but you know, particularly when you are talking to them and their families.

I really think pick 3 for 12 & 14 in this draft isn't a bad trade. It's not exceptional, but it's not a bad trade. The issue is that 14 was used instantly for Baker and I think this is what people (including myself) aren't happy with. Freo ****ed us as well on multiple accounts. If the Bolton trade went through first I firmly believe we could have upgraded our pick 26 as part of the deal.

All in all it's not horrendous but it's not great or even good. However if we didn't secure Warner, pick 3 was going to end up being split either way.

The club isn't expecting miracles next year but is expecting enough wins and positivity to be able to start attracting higher level established talent.

Now we hopefully get to death ride the hawks and they finish with 3-4 less wins with teams putting a lot more effort into countering them and a much tougher draw.

I'll answer questions in regards to some of the players chased and even some we had commitments from before bigger deals came over the top and they went elsewhere.

Richmond are going to go hard for pick 2.

Oh and lastly Paul Connors is a complete campaigner.

Apologies my hands were tied and all I ended up landing at the club was Matt Owies, however I hope getting significantly more than what was originally offered and even on the table with 30-40 minutes left to go on the Barrass deal helps make up for it.

 

[random260]

Hear from the man himself
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Wait my bad I misquoted. They wanted a strong draft hand this year OR next year.

Great to know we can delay our rebuild yeah

 

[FKASC]

Smith can't kick the footy. He can run though - will grant him that.

Dangerfield

 

[Coasters7]

F1+F2+F3 is better than 14 by itself.

Not when it cost 3 to do it.

We effectively split 3 for 12, Owies and F2 and swapped Barrass for Baker, when it’s all said and done.

Thats f*cking horrendous.

 

[EagleMan87]

No disrespect at all yeah that's completely non-psychopathic behaviour of course.

This thread has been like bringing up politics with acquaintances you get along with.

 

[whatis]

Well we beat Carlton by 11 goals a few weeks before this years finals, if that’s any help.

Yeah well good luck next year when Carlton have a 2025 rising star pick 3 playing for them. Now who looks silly?

 

[WCE_phil]

Oh and Matt Clarke can try and bask in his own bullshit, **** him.

 

[MaxHunt]

Hawks aren’t finishing 1st. Can see them in the 8 - 10th range. Even if it’s not all those hawks picks involved for Warner it still means we can bring on Warner & still have picks to use for other kids this year or next.

I think you will find the early round picks will blow out a bit in next years draft

 

[amazingjoshy]

Hear from the man himself
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Definitely trading back in

Once all the sooking is done, be interesting to see what picks folks think we could get.

 

[Boohemian]

WCE_phil - I was pretty keen on getting Robertson across. Would have thought he would be cheap given that he's clearly on the periphery at Brisbane.

What happened there?

 

[southcoast]

Which club just crashed bigfooty. I was thinking the dogs but not enough supporters.

Richmond supporters gloating and spending all their draft picks.


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[Get_The_Gaff]

Smith can't kick the footy. He can run though - will grant him that.

Baker can't kick either

 

[FKASC]

Wish Steven King

Steven King

Age

45

Ht

201cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

HO

16.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

HO

8.8

5star

didn’t have a stroke now.

Sliding Dawes moment

Players nominate the club? Just say Nowies

 

[Barrybran]

The whingers always whinge.

This is outstanding.

Context. Would you be happy trading out your entire 2025 draft hand, your 1st, 2nd AND 3rd round picks for a 29 yr old fullback with recent back issues.

Geez. That is a huge amount to pay. HUGE

And people think meh.? Lol!

Hawtborn just traded out their entire original 2025 draft hand, for one player.

Lets shoot over and get Kane's opinion on this deal shall we.....

Hawthorn effectively traded 14 + F3 for Barrass + F4

 

[Doashuey]

If we want Warner we tell him now he will need to nominate PSD so we can use our picks getting some more elite talent to surround you with

Wont happen but lets say it does. Tigers would grab him without hesitation..We wont have pick 1 in the PSD next year.
We trade for him. If this trade period has demonstrated anything at all it is that we dont have a ruthless bone in our frail body and wouldnt dream of threatening PSD.

 

[WCE_phil]

WCE_phil - I was pretty keen on getting Robertson across. Would have thought he would be cheap given that he's clearly on the periphery at Brisbane.

What happened there?

Im going for drinks, will answer questions tomorrow. Send me private messages and no i'm not getting back to 100 people. I'll just leave it at the club was far less interested in landing him than Brisbane were in trading him. They wanted a second round pick.

 

[EagleEgo]

Hawks aren’t finishing 1st. Can see them in the 8 - 10th range. Even if it’s not all those hawks picks involved for Warner it still means we can bring on Warner & still have picks to use for other kids this year or next.

Hawthorn will drop back to the bottom 4 next year taking the Eagles 2024 position. Next time we meet, Waterman will kick 10 goals on Barrass.