List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[dinnaz]

Okay. Care to expand?

Not to mention the $$$ fat cat contract and being back home with the bad influences.

Big Fish trades never tend to work out because their best is usually behind them.
Bolton is good at the Dusty cheat role- however likely won't be afforded the same freewheeling role at Freo.
Probably goes the Acres/Hill/Lobb/Menegola/Hogan route after being shit for a few years.

 

[Goroyals22]

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Wait, wait, wait...

Your telling me Mae Young didn't actually give birth to a hand?!

No it was on tv. That was real


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[Shueygod]

The pick swap isn’t too bad, if you think differently reckon it’s down to not knowing the draft.

Literally all the top top prospects have question marks, so much so that FOS is in top 3 discussions despite doing nothing all year.

Where we ****ed up was on trading it for baker, don’t understand why 26 couldn’t have got it done.

 

[Bob Fossil]

There has been a lot of Matt Clarke talk. From what I can establish he became Richmond's head of recruiting in 2016.

2	29	Shai Bolton	Richmond	South Fremantle	WAFL	Free agency compensation pick (Vickery)
3	53	Jack Graham	Richmond	North Adelaide	SANFL	Traded from Geelong
5	72	Ryan Garthwaite	Richmond	Murray Bushrangers	TAC Cup	Academy eligible, but Greater Western Sydney did not match the bid
1	17	Jack Higgins	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
2	20	Callum Coleman-Jones	Richmond	Sturt	SANFL	Traded from Brisbane Lions
2	25	Noah Balta	Richmond	Calder Cannons	TAC Cup	Traded from Bris; received from W.B - Ess - GWS - Coll
2	34	Patrick Naish	Richmond	Northern Knights	TAC Cup	Father–son selection (son of Chris Naish)
4	63	Ben Miller	Richmond	Subiaco	WAFL
1	20	Riley Collier-Dawkins	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
2	43	Jack Ross	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
4	58	Fraser Turner	Richmond	Clarence	TSL	Traded from Western Bulldogs
4	62	Luke English	Richmond	Perth	WAFL	Traded from Adelaide; received from Suns, N.M.
1	21	Thomson Dow	Richmond	Bendigo Pioneers	NAB League
2	43	Noah Cumberland	Richmond	Brisbane Lions	NEAFL	Academy eligible for Brisbane Lions, but they did not match Richmond's bid.
2	44	Will Martyn	Richmond	Brisbane Lions	NEAFL	Academy eligible for Brisbane Lions, but they did not match Richmond's bid. Free Agency compensation pick (Ellis)
3	46	Hugo Ralphsmith	Richmond	Sandringham Dragons	NAB League	Traded from Hawthorn at the draft; received from Melbourne
3	54	Bigoa Nyuon	Richmond	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League	Next Generation Academy eligible for St Kilda, but they did not match Richmond's bid. Traded from St Kilda; received from Sydney; received from Collingwood
2	40	Samson Ryan	Richmond	Western Magpies	QAFL	Traded from St Kilda (via Collingwood and Fremantle) in 2019. Academy eligible for Brisbane, who did not match the bid [159]
3	51	Maurice Rioli Jr.	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	NAB League	Father–son selection (son of Maurice Rioli), matched bid by Essendon
1	9	Josh Gibcus	Richmond	GWV Rebels	NAB League
1	17	Tom Brown	Richmond	Murray Bushrangers	NAB League	←Geelong (2020)
2	28	Tyler Sonsie	Richmond	Eastern Ranges	NAB League
2	29	Sam Banks	Richmond	Tasmania Devils	NAB League	←Collingwood←Fremantle
2	30	Judson Clarke	Richmond	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League	←St Kilda (2020)
3	49	Kaleb Smith	Richmond	East Fremantle	WAFL	←Greater Western Sydney←Port Adelaide←Melbourne
4	55	Steely Green	Richmond	South Fremantle	WAFL	←Greater Western Sydney←Collingwood (2021)←St Kilda (2021)←Adelaide (2021)
2	40	Kane McAuliffe	Richmond	North Adelaide	SANFL	←West Coast←Port Adelaide (2022)
2	43	Liam Fawcett	Richmond	Central District	SANFL	←Port Adelaide←Greater Western Sydney (2022)←Collingwood (2022)

hmmmm

 

[Lia]

He would have been first on my delist pile.

Slow as treacle, injury prone, no outstanding attributes.

I agree, good footy brain but the lack of legspeed will forever be a problem especially without the skills to compensate.

 

[THE A5]

Likes don’t mean anything

Dunno, heard a rumour if you get 50k Chief gives you a personal lap dance. I got 30 k to go to confirm or deny this rumour

 

[eagles rule]

The Culley delisting seems like something his manager ****ed up , I was under the impression that he had been offered a extension earlier in the year but his management team were holding off on signing a contract till the end of of the year..


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[Lia]

There has been a lot of Matt Clarke talk. From what I can establish he became Richmond's head of recruiting in 2016.

2	29	Shai Bolton	Richmond	South Fremantle	WAFL	Free agency compensation pick (Vickery)
3	53	Jack Graham	Richmond	North Adelaide	SANFL	Traded from Geelong
5	72	Ryan Garthwaite	Richmond	Murray Bushrangers	TAC Cup	Academy eligible, but Greater Western Sydney did not match the bid
1	17	Jack Higgins	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
2	20	Callum Coleman-Jones	Richmond	Sturt	SANFL	Traded from Brisbane Lions
2	25	Noah Balta	Richmond	Calder Cannons	TAC Cup	Traded from Bris; received from W.B - Ess - GWS - Coll
2	34	Patrick Naish	Richmond	Northern Knights	TAC Cup	Father–son selection (son of Chris Naish)
4	63	Ben Miller	Richmond	Subiaco	WAFL
1	20	Riley Collier-Dawkins	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
2	43	Jack Ross	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
4	58	Fraser Turner	Richmond	Clarence	TSL	Traded from Western Bulldogs
4	62	Luke English	Richmond	Perth	WAFL	Traded from Adelaide; received from Suns, N.M.
1	21	Thomson Dow	Richmond	Bendigo Pioneers	NAB League
2	43	Noah Cumberland	Richmond	Brisbane Lions	NEAFL	Academy eligible for Brisbane Lions, but they did not match Richmond's bid.
2	44	Will Martyn	Richmond	Brisbane Lions	NEAFL	Academy eligible for Brisbane Lions, but they did not match Richmond's bid. Free Agency compensation pick (Ellis)
3	46	Hugo Ralphsmith	Richmond	Sandringham Dragons	NAB League	Traded from Hawthorn at the draft; received from Melbourne
3	54	Bigoa Nyuon	Richmond	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League	Next Generation Academy eligible for St Kilda, but they did not match Richmond's bid. Traded from St Kilda; received from Sydney; received from Collingwood
2	40	Samson Ryan	Richmond	Western Magpies	QAFL	Traded from St Kilda (via Collingwood and Fremantle) in 2019. Academy eligible for Brisbane, who did not match the bid [159]
3	51	Maurice Rioli Jr.	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	NAB League	Father–son selection (son of Maurice Rioli), matched bid by Essendon
1	9	Josh Gibcus	Richmond	GWV Rebels	NAB League
1	17	Tom Brown	Richmond	Murray Bushrangers	NAB League	←Geelong (2020)
2	28	Tyler Sonsie	Richmond	Eastern Ranges	NAB League
2	29	Sam Banks	Richmond	Tasmania Devils	NAB League	←Collingwood←Fremantle
2	30	Judson Clarke	Richmond	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League	←St Kilda (2020)
3	49	Kaleb Smith	Richmond	East Fremantle	WAFL	←Greater Western Sydney←Port Adelaide←Melbourne
4	55	Steely Green	Richmond	South Fremantle	WAFL	←Greater Western Sydney←Collingwood (2021)←St Kilda (2021)←Adelaide (2021)
2	40	Kane McAuliffe	Richmond	North Adelaide	SANFL	←West Coast←Port Adelaide (2022)
2	43	Liam Fawcett	Richmond	Central District	SANFL	←Port Adelaide←Greater Western Sydney (2022)←Collingwood (2022)

hmmmm

Starts well, goes to shit pretty quickly.

 

[beagles]

There has been a lot of Matt Clarke talk. From what I can establish he became Richmond's head of recruiting in 2016.

2	29	Shai Bolton	Richmond	South Fremantle	WAFL	Free agency compensation pick (Vickery)
3	53	Jack Graham	Richmond	North Adelaide	SANFL	Traded from Geelong
5	72	Ryan Garthwaite	Richmond	Murray Bushrangers	TAC Cup	Academy eligible, but Greater Western Sydney did not match the bid
1	17	Jack Higgins	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
2	20	Callum Coleman-Jones	Richmond	Sturt	SANFL	Traded from Brisbane Lions
2	25	Noah Balta	Richmond	Calder Cannons	TAC Cup	Traded from Bris; received from W.B - Ess - GWS - Coll
2	34	Patrick Naish	Richmond	Northern Knights	TAC Cup	Father–son selection (son of Chris Naish)
4	63	Ben Miller	Richmond	Subiaco	WAFL
1	20	Riley Collier-Dawkins	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
2	43	Jack Ross	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
4	58	Fraser Turner	Richmond	Clarence	TSL	Traded from Western Bulldogs
4	62	Luke English	Richmond	Perth	WAFL	Traded from Adelaide; received from Suns, N.M.
1	21	Thomson Dow	Richmond	Bendigo Pioneers	NAB League
2	43	Noah Cumberland	Richmond	Brisbane Lions	NEAFL	Academy eligible for Brisbane Lions, but they did not match Richmond's bid.
2	44	Will Martyn	Richmond	Brisbane Lions	NEAFL	Academy eligible for Brisbane Lions, but they did not match Richmond's bid. Free Agency compensation pick (Ellis)
3	46	Hugo Ralphsmith	Richmond	Sandringham Dragons	NAB League	Traded from Hawthorn at the draft; received from Melbourne
3	54	Bigoa Nyuon	Richmond	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League	Next Generation Academy eligible for St Kilda, but they did not match Richmond's bid. Traded from St Kilda; received from Sydney; received from Collingwood
2	40	Samson Ryan	Richmond	Western Magpies	QAFL	Traded from St Kilda (via Collingwood and Fremantle) in 2019. Academy eligible for Brisbane, who did not match the bid [159]
3	51	Maurice Rioli Jr.	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	NAB League	Father–son selection (son of Maurice Rioli), matched bid by Essendon
1	9	Josh Gibcus	Richmond	GWV Rebels	NAB League
1	17	Tom Brown	Richmond	Murray Bushrangers	NAB League	←Geelong (2020)
2	28	Tyler Sonsie	Richmond	Eastern Ranges	NAB League
2	29	Sam Banks	Richmond	Tasmania Devils	NAB League	←Collingwood←Fremantle
2	30	Judson Clarke	Richmond	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League	←St Kilda (2020)
3	49	Kaleb Smith	Richmond	East Fremantle	WAFL	←Greater Western Sydney←Port Adelaide←Melbourne
4	55	Steely Green	Richmond	South Fremantle	WAFL	←Greater Western Sydney←Collingwood (2021)←St Kilda (2021)←Adelaide (2021)
2	40	Kane McAuliffe	Richmond	North Adelaide	SANFL	←West Coast←Port Adelaide (2022)
2	43	Liam Fawcett	Richmond	Central District	SANFL	←Port Adelaide←Greater Western Sydney (2022)←Collingwood (2022)

hmmmm

How the hell did we recruit him with that record!

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

The pick swap isn’t too bad, if you think differently reckon it’s down to not knowing the draft.

Literally all the top top prospects have question marks, so much so that FOS is in top 3 discussions despite doing nothing all year.

Where we ****ed up was on trading it for baker, don’t understand why 26 couldn’t have got it done.

This draft is meant to be deep - as in the first 6 or 7 are all in the mix for #1. And then the next few are all in the mix for top 5. I don't see any obvious generation players. Maybe there is, but you can't see it yet. In the last 10 years, Schache is probably the only dud in the top 3. McGrath isn't a dud, but you wouldn't be over the moon at spending #1 on him.

Get someone top 3, there's a high chance you're getting a 200 game A-grade mid. The chances of getting that with #12 are slim. Possible, but unlikely.

26 should have been enough. Failing that, "give him 1 year contract and we'll free agent him". #3 shouldn't have been an option.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

How the hell did we recruit him with that record!

The most alarming is Taranto and Hopper. He's an imposter.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

It's also pretty funny that we all launched a nuke about trading away pick 3 and a couple days later the Hawks delist someone they drafted at pick 6 four years ago.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

There has been a lot of Matt Clarke talk. From what I can establish he became Richmond's head of recruiting in 2016.

2	29	Shai Bolton	Richmond	South Fremantle	WAFL	Free agency compensation pick (Vickery)
3	53	Jack Graham	Richmond	North Adelaide	SANFL	Traded from Geelong
5	72	Ryan Garthwaite	Richmond	Murray Bushrangers	TAC Cup	Academy eligible, but Greater Western Sydney did not match the bid
1	17	Jack Higgins	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
2	20	Callum Coleman-Jones	Richmond	Sturt	SANFL	Traded from Brisbane Lions
2	25	Noah Balta	Richmond	Calder Cannons	TAC Cup	Traded from Bris; received from W.B - Ess - GWS - Coll
2	34	Patrick Naish	Richmond	Northern Knights	TAC Cup	Father–son selection (son of Chris Naish)
4	63	Ben Miller	Richmond	Subiaco	WAFL
1	20	Riley Collier-Dawkins	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
2	43	Jack Ross	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
4	58	Fraser Turner	Richmond	Clarence	TSL	Traded from Western Bulldogs
4	62	Luke English	Richmond	Perth	WAFL	Traded from Adelaide; received from Suns, N.M.
1	21	Thomson Dow	Richmond	Bendigo Pioneers	NAB League
2	43	Noah Cumberland	Richmond	Brisbane Lions	NEAFL	Academy eligible for Brisbane Lions, but they did not match Richmond's bid.
2	44	Will Martyn	Richmond	Brisbane Lions	NEAFL	Academy eligible for Brisbane Lions, but they did not match Richmond's bid. Free Agency compensation pick (Ellis)
3	46	Hugo Ralphsmith	Richmond	Sandringham Dragons	NAB League	Traded from Hawthorn at the draft; received from Melbourne
3	54	Bigoa Nyuon	Richmond	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League	Next Generation Academy eligible for St Kilda, but they did not match Richmond's bid. Traded from St Kilda; received from Sydney; received from Collingwood
2	40	Samson Ryan	Richmond	Western Magpies	QAFL	Traded from St Kilda (via Collingwood and Fremantle) in 2019. Academy eligible for Brisbane, who did not match the bid [159]
3	51	Maurice Rioli Jr.	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	NAB League	Father–son selection (son of Maurice Rioli), matched bid by Essendon
1	9	Josh Gibcus	Richmond	GWV Rebels	NAB League
1	17	Tom Brown	Richmond	Murray Bushrangers	NAB League	←Geelong (2020)
2	28	Tyler Sonsie	Richmond	Eastern Ranges	NAB League
2	29	Sam Banks	Richmond	Tasmania Devils	NAB League	←Collingwood←Fremantle
2	30	Judson Clarke	Richmond	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League	←St Kilda (2020)
3	49	Kaleb Smith	Richmond	East Fremantle	WAFL	←Greater Western Sydney←Port Adelaide←Melbourne
4	55	Steely Green	Richmond	South Fremantle	WAFL	←Greater Western Sydney←Collingwood (2021)←St Kilda (2021)←Adelaide (2021)
2	40	Kane McAuliffe	Richmond	North Adelaide	SANFL	←West Coast←Port Adelaide (2022)
2	43	Liam Fawcett	Richmond	Central District	SANFL	←Port Adelaide←Greater Western Sydney (2022)←Collingwood (2022)

hmmmm

Surely there had to be someone with a better record than this...how could we not poach someone from another club with the resources we got?

 

[Coasters7]

Starts well, goes to shit pretty quickly.

To be fair there’s not a lot to work with there. Did hit on a few of the higher picks.

 

[twce13]

Looking towards next year is interesting. From the OOC the obvious ones to go are petch, Cripps, sheed and Jamo.

Livingstone maybe but is cat B anyway.
Rawlingson also.

The rest you like to think have a future at the club.

Perhaps a reason to retain rotham and Edwards is this. Ofc we could just take some extra rookies, but maybe they want some experience at wafl level.

Oh well, let's see.

 

[Astro7]

If you are an Eagles supporter why be a pessimistic Kent there are too many of them on this forum.
Too many people seem to post too either get likes or just have no fecking idea!
NO! Bender; I’m not talking about you!
Nor you Astro, just an observation.
We have been dealt the hand we have been dealt.
Let’s concentrate on making a hand good enough to win the deal.
We’ve all vented! It’s over!!

I like your passion.

 

[mattyc75]

I'm really looking forward to barracking for anyone playing against the hawks next yr

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[tigger_ferret]

Why is there a random table in the middle of the locker room?

I don't want to cast dispersions, but I'm starting to think that all this "professional wrestling" might not be real.

I’ve been wondering the same thing about the AFL

 

[stallon]

I hope we really look at a guy like DGB. Worst case we delist him in a year if he can't get his shit together, best case he plays 150+ games for us and is the Gov replacement long term.

If it's just laziness or a lack of commitment or his lifestyle habits that are holding him back surely they can be fixed.
Maybe he just needs a wake up call and a delisting might be just that.

The guy clearly has talent

 

[Obeanie1]

We have our tall forwards. Gov won't last much longer and hopefully HEdwards keeps improving and can stay on the field.rucks suck Midfield is a weak point too
Not overly balanced

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Our midfield is balanced, it just has a lot of unproven talent backed up by a handfull of senior bodies.

5 Seniors : Yeo, Duggan, Kelly, Graham with Baker an option.

7 Youth: Reid, Hutchinson, Hewett, Ginbey, Chesser, Long and Hall.

Some 190cm big bodies in that mix and some smaller types.

Thats 12. Maric now listed as a mid but didnt include.13

Not mentioning Sheed, or Edwards.15 Both to free up list spots at the end of 2025.

We will take at least one more mid in the draft 16. Lindsay / Allan or Davies a smokie.

Moreas / Davies with 26 would be nice. Yes pieces are needed however its reasonabky balanced IMO.

 

[JackOutback]

just think, if he doesn't flip one of our firsts for some magic beans this year, next year he'll have 4 first rounders in his control. i fear we haven't seen anything yet.

Imagine how many middling picks we could split those four into.

 

[Obeanie1]

You don't know what's being traded tho. We've been linked to plenty of the last couple of years that haven't eventuated and when we do trade guys in ppl go nuts that we've paid too much.


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Look at any premiership team.

They all have players traded in.

You dont need the draft to provide role players to support the six stars you need to provide the quality.

That was the gist of the issue.

 

[Obeanie1]

There has been a lot of Matt Clarke talk. From what I can establish he became Richmond's head of recruiting in 2016.

2	29	Shai Bolton	Richmond	South Fremantle	WAFL	Free agency compensation pick (Vickery)
3	53	Jack Graham	Richmond	North Adelaide	SANFL	Traded from Geelong
5	72	Ryan Garthwaite	Richmond	Murray Bushrangers	TAC Cup	Academy eligible, but Greater Western Sydney did not match the bid
1	17	Jack Higgins	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
2	20	Callum Coleman-Jones	Richmond	Sturt	SANFL	Traded from Brisbane Lions
2	25	Noah Balta	Richmond	Calder Cannons	TAC Cup	Traded from Bris; received from W.B - Ess - GWS - Coll
2	34	Patrick Naish	Richmond	Northern Knights	TAC Cup	Father–son selection (son of Chris Naish)
4	63	Ben Miller	Richmond	Subiaco	WAFL
1	20	Riley Collier-Dawkins	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
2	43	Jack Ross	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	TAC Cup
4	58	Fraser Turner	Richmond	Clarence	TSL	Traded from Western Bulldogs
4	62	Luke English	Richmond	Perth	WAFL	Traded from Adelaide; received from Suns, N.M.
1	21	Thomson Dow	Richmond	Bendigo Pioneers	NAB League
2	43	Noah Cumberland	Richmond	Brisbane Lions	NEAFL	Academy eligible for Brisbane Lions, but they did not match Richmond's bid.
2	44	Will Martyn	Richmond	Brisbane Lions	NEAFL	Academy eligible for Brisbane Lions, but they did not match Richmond's bid. Free Agency compensation pick (Ellis)
3	46	Hugo Ralphsmith	Richmond	Sandringham Dragons	NAB League	Traded from Hawthorn at the draft; received from Melbourne
3	54	Bigoa Nyuon	Richmond	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League	Next Generation Academy eligible for St Kilda, but they did not match Richmond's bid. Traded from St Kilda; received from Sydney; received from Collingwood
2	40	Samson Ryan	Richmond	Western Magpies	QAFL	Traded from St Kilda (via Collingwood and Fremantle) in 2019. Academy eligible for Brisbane, who did not match the bid [159]
3	51	Maurice Rioli Jr.	Richmond	Oakleigh Chargers	NAB League	Father–son selection (son of Maurice Rioli), matched bid by Essendon
1	9	Josh Gibcus	Richmond	GWV Rebels	NAB League
1	17	Tom Brown	Richmond	Murray Bushrangers	NAB League	←Geelong (2020)
2	28	Tyler Sonsie	Richmond	Eastern Ranges	NAB League
2	29	Sam Banks	Richmond	Tasmania Devils	NAB League	←Collingwood←Fremantle
2	30	Judson Clarke	Richmond	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League	←St Kilda (2020)
3	49	Kaleb Smith	Richmond	East Fremantle	WAFL	←Greater Western Sydney←Port Adelaide←Melbourne
4	55	Steely Green	Richmond	South Fremantle	WAFL	←Greater Western Sydney←Collingwood (2021)←St Kilda (2021)←Adelaide (2021)
2	40	Kane McAuliffe	Richmond	North Adelaide	SANFL	←West Coast←Port Adelaide (2022)
2	43	Liam Fawcett	Richmond	Central District	SANFL	←Port Adelaide←Greater Western Sydney (2022)←Collingwood (2022)

hmmmm

Well he didnt have too many decent high picks to use over that period.

Geelong would have cleaned up of course.

 

[amazingjoshy]

We dont. In 21-25 age range this year who played AFL

WCE - Chesser, Hough, Brockman, L.Edwards. H.Edwards, Jamieson, B.Williams
Hawks - Ward, Dambrosio, Serong, Butler, Ramsden, Macdonald, Ginnivan, Mitchell, Newcombe, Day, Maginness, Moore

Hawks 21-25 year olds were miles ahead to say the least.

Your first point was that the Hawks did 3 years ago what Richmond are doing now. That's not true at all. Their lineup for their first final win

Hawks line up last night

Sicily (pick 56)
Frost (traded in for late pick swaps)
Impey (traded pick 33)
Hardwick (pick 44)
Weddle (pick 18)
Morrison (pick 74)
D'Ambrosio (pick 61 + F4)
Moore (pick 67)
Nash (pick 62 rookie draft)
Amon (free agent)
Chol (traded for a 2024 2nd rounder tied to Brissy)
Ginnivan (gave up 2024 F2 and F3 for Pies 2024 F2 and F4)
Dear (pick 56)
Gunston (traded back for Brandon Ryan)
Watson (pick 5)
Meek (traded for JOM and got a 2nd rounder back aswell)
Worpel (pick 45)
Newcombe (pick 2 in the mid season draft)
Scrimshaw (traded for late nothing swaps)
Maginness (pick 29)
Ward (pick 7)
Macdonald (pick 26)

That's some incredible list management and/or more likely some amazing coaching to get them playing like they currently are

Your 2nd point was that Hawthorn played more under 25s than us. I said we have a heap.of u25s on our list but they may not be getting games because our development sucks

Now the goalposts have changed again to 21-25 year olds who played AFL this year

I have no idea what you're trying to say tbh

 

[wirra44]

It's also pretty funny that we all launched a nuke about trading away pick 3 and a couple days later the Hawks delist someone they drafted at pick 6 four years ago.

Too be fair look at the blokes that were picked up directly after him , nothing to get to excited about , very average first round. As much as it is a miss it’s not like a superstar was picked up around his pick.