List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Hoskin300]

Exactly.

**** Chad.

After paying what we did for peak priced Kelly the last thing I want is overpaying for an absolutely maxxed out Chad Warner.

Sooner he re-signs with the Swans the better. Put the onus back on the dipstick drafting team and coaches to find and develop our own Chad, not pay the king's ransom for the one we missed in favour of Kelly.

Talk about doubling down on stuff up.

This 100%. Warner is obviously good but he also has elite mids around him that make him look much better.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Our new list manager works for Richmond so expect them to pick him up as a DFA at no cost.

It was part of the Baker trade

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

I hate this "set training standards" justification for overpaying for Baker.

If we need Baker to set standards, what the f*ck are McGovern, Yeo, Kelly, Duggan, Cole, Allen, Cripps, etc doing? If they're not setting standards, why the f*ck are they getting their contracts renewed again and again when this laziness has been around for years now? F*ck them out of the team if we need b-grade players from the wooden spooners to set standards.

Owies also buying into that whole idea as a reason for him being brought into the team.
Kinda sad for us to need to bring in leadership from other teams because our existing older players don't have those qualities?

 

[kerrazy]

Who are the possible sliders to our pick do we think?

Langford?
Travaglia?
Tauru?

I'm shitting meself at the thought of us drafting Allen.

 

[Elite Pete]

Inside story: Why Robertson’s Eagles deal broke down again

It feels like a footballing match made in heaven: Deven Robertson and West Coast. But the nephew of club great Darren Glass has just never made it to the Eagles. Mitchell Woodcock takes a look at why.

thewest.com.au

Anything worthwhile in this article from this rag?

anyone got the why Dev didn’t come to the Eagles article?

 

[eaglevision]

It was part of the Baker trade

Yep and Burgiel just to make sure we didn’t rip Richmond off too much.

 

[eaglespremiers]

anyone got the why Dev didn’t come to the Eagles article?

We didn't promise him nothin'.

 

[eaglevision]

Who are the possible sliders to our pick do we think?

Langford?
Travaglia?
Tauru?

I'm shitting meself at the thought of us drafting Allen.

1. RICH Jagga Smith
2. NM Sam Lalor
3. CARL Finn O’Sullivan
4. ADEL Sid Draper
5. MELB Harvey Langford
6. RICH Murphy Reid
7. STK Josh Smillie
8. STK Tobie Travaglia
9. MELB Jobe Shanahan
10. RICH Harry Armstrong
11. RICH Jo Berry
12. WCE Xavier Lindsay
13. PORT Alix Tauru
14. FREO Bo Allan
15. GWS Luke Trainor
16. GWS Cooper Hynes
17. WBD Oliver Hannaford
18. RICH Taj Hotton
19. SYD Jack Whitlock
20. RICH Alex Dodson
21. GWS Tom Gross
22. SYD Matt Whitlock
23. RICH Jonty Faull
24. RICH Harry O’Farrell
25. WBD Christian Moraes
26. WCE Harrison Oliver

That’s how I currently see the picks until our 2R. Some intel but mainly speculation. I think North will split and trade down but no idea who with.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

If Cooper Hynes is a reach at 12 and Christian Moraes is unlikely to last until 26, I'd love us to find a way to replace them with 2 picks in between.
A couple of goalkicking mids would be a great outcome.
Although it's all a moot point if we have our hearts set on Bo Allan.
That being said, I'll be happy with Allan at pick 12.
From the outside looks a similar type to Ginbey, but can actually find the ball and loves throwing his weight around.
Displayed his strength and power versus grown men in the WAFL including in the GF.
Perhaps a bit unrefined, but there's plenty of promise there imo.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Richmond having a bajillion picks may throw things out of whack and they reach for a KPP.

In which case a talented mid should fall our way.

Armstrong and Shanahan will tempt the tigers at 10 or 11. Also Tauru may as well

 

[ziad]

Owies also buying into that whole idea as a reason for him being brought into the team.
Kinda sad for us to need to bring in leadership from other teams because our existing older players don't have those qualities?

But it is real and has been obvious for years.

 

[mat11]

WCE_phil what's the story on Lalors hamstring, just a minor one or possible draft slider?

On SM-A155F using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

He will be one of 3 or 4, if I’m guessing we will be having a good look at.

Lindsay, TT, Tauru and Allan could all be options due being ranked around that part of the draft and also not Vic Metro boys.

Wildcard pick could be a sliding Langford, someone slides I reckon.

Smillie and Langford are possible sliders

 

[Tugga27]

anyone got the why Dev didn’t come to the Eagles article?

Some more gold from Splinters.

"But the 23-year-old, who missed out on both of Brisbane’s grand finals across the past two seasons, will remain a Lion for at least another year."

https://archive.ph/rEW9t

 

[eaglevision]

WCE_phil what's the story on Lalors hamstring, just a minor one or possible draft slider?

On SM-A155F using BigFooty.com mobile app

It’s not minor at all but he also won’t slide.

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

WCE_phil what's the story on Lalors hamstring, just a minor one or possible draft slider?

On SM-A155F using BigFooty.com mobile app

didn’t twomey just say Lalor is favourite for pick 1? lol

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Anyone know why Moraes has slid a fair bit in the last year with regards to his likely draft value? Was spoken about as a possible top 5 selection then, and now seen a few with him around the 30 mark

Has really done much wrong IMO, just so many others were rising fast and so many good options.
At 26 he'd be a great pick.

 

[mattyc75]

He will be one of 3 or 4, if I’m guessing we will be having a good look at.

Lindsay, TT, Tauru and Allan could all be options due being ranked around that part of the draft and also not Vic Metro boys.

Wildcard pick could be a sliding Langford, someone slides I reckon.

Wow Langford sliding to 15! I wouldve taken him at 3.
I think it'd be nice but about as likely to happen as me pulling mila kunis in northbridge tonight

On SM-S921B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Monocle]

Berry doesn't make sense at that pick
Would rather Will Hayes a even better kick of the footy
Will will be a late pick has much better speed and tank
He is a little smaller than Berry but i think he is the hidden player of the draft
His kicking into the forward 50 in the colts finals for Claremont and gf was sublime

RE - I am not disputing that and I agree with you that he is not ideal in the priority of skill needs, but when you trade away pick 3 .... you limit your choices.
I am on record as to who I would prefer at pick 12.

As for Will Hayes ...a good get but much latter in the draft.
Pity we traded away our late picks, but that's just another of the things about this trade period, that pisses me off.

 

[Elite Pete]

Some more gold from Splinters.

"But the 23-year-old, who missed out on both of Brisbane’s grand finals across the past two seasons, will remain a Lion for at least another year."

https://archive.ph/rEW9t

I Read it as the Eagles pulled the pin? Brissy might of wanted us to trade up and we thought with the TB thing happening ht was too hard.

Interesting.

Judd McVee would be the one I’d be targeting now. OOC and has a relationship with Mini and by the looks of social media Harley.

 

[TerryFilk]

Who are the possible sliders to our pick do we think?

Langford?
Travaglia?
Tauru?

I'm shitting meself at the thought of us drafting Allen.

Out of the top end mids I’d say Reid or Smillie are the likely sliders, Langford an outside chance, but I think all the top mids will be gone unfortunately.

Travaglia probably gets snapped up by the Saints or Tigers, but there’s a 20-30% chance he’s there at 12.

Can’t see Tauru sliding that far, apparently North and a couple others are red hot on him.

We really need teams in front of to surprise everyone and take guys like Shanahan, Berry or Trainor along with Tauru / Armstrong.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

I Read it as the Eagles pulled the pin? Brissy might of wanted us to trade up and we thought with the TB thing happening ht was too hard.

Interesting.

Judd McVee would be the one I’d be targeting now. OOC and has a relationship with Mini and by the looks of social media Harley.

Clarke was too busy landing the big fish. Baker.

 

[Goomba1973]

North split 2 to Tigers

Tigers 6 plus Hawks F1st go to North.

Tigers pick 10 to Eagles for Hawks F1st plus Eagles F3rd.

Barrass turned into pick 10 plus HF2nd.


Richmond hold picks 1, 2, 11, 18, 23 and 24.

North slide to 6 and land a F1st.

We hold 10, 12 and 26.

Retain our F1st, F2nd, Hawks F2nd and Hawks F3rd.

I like that deal ...

 

[Elite Pete]

1. RICH Jagga Smith
2. NM Sam Lalor
3. CARL Finn O’Sullivan
4. ADEL Sid Draper
5. MELB Harvey Langford
6. RICH Murphy Reid
7. STK Josh Smillie
8. STK Tobie Travaglia
9. MELB Jobe Shanahan
10. RICH Harry Armstrong
11. RICH Jo Berry
12. WCE Xavier Lindsay
13. PORT Alix Tauru
14. FREO Bo Allan
15. GWS Luke Trainor
16. GWS Cooper Hynes
17. WBD Oliver Hannaford
18. RICH Taj Hotton
19. SYD Jack Whitlock
20. RICH Alex Dodson
21. GWS Tom Gross
22. SYD Matt Whitlock
23. RICH Jonty Faull
24. RICH Harry O’Farrell
25. WBD Christian Moraes
26. WCE Harrison Oliver

That’s how I currently see the picks until our 2R. Some intel but mainly speculation. I think North will split and trade down but no idea who with.

Lindsay and Oliver would be nice gets considering. Throw in Hynes somehow with a trade in and the excitement would be getting high again for this crop of draftees.

Roos and Tigers surely get something done if they love Lalor as well.

10 + 11 or 6 + 23.

North get 10 + 11 might be good for us. You’d think if they trade down its 2 KPP.

 

[dinnaz]

This is who I think the top 9 prospects are:

Levi Ashcroft
Leo Lombard
Jagga Smith
Finn O'Sullivan
Sid Draper
Josh Smillie
Sam Lalor
Harvey Langford
Murphy Reid

We're at 14 assuming Kako goes after that. Ashcroft and Lombard are at the top because they are mathematically 0 chance of sliding.

Do any of those guys slide? Is someone in that top 14 going to say, "we have to take a KPF" or "we think Allan is the next Fyfe/Cripps"?

KPF: Harry Armstrong, Jobe Shanahan
HBF: Tobie Travaglia
MID: Xavier Lindsay, Bo Allan
KPD: Alix Tauru

Smillie, Draper would be good. Unlikely to slide. If they don't slide, I'm hoping one of TT or Tauru is available. Pick 12 is not a good place to be.

IMO Harry Armstrong won't make it as a KPF. Good player just not your main guy up there. I think someone does reach (Richmond) and there's a good chance we get someone at the back end of this bracket.

Our 2nd rounder it's time to go for a mid again as there's plenty out there. I'm hoping for that almost unproven 2nd tier mid who never got minutes behind the big dogs. Say like at Sandringham + Vic Metro