List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

There's no getting Freo back in this situation.
They've delisted the bloke.
Any other team are free to talk to him or draft him.
Same goes for any player that is delisted player.

I was thinking like a wrestlers heel turn. Knobel rocks up to the rookie draft in a Fremantle jumper, then “with pick 3, Eagles select Max Knobel”. Cut to picture of Knobel taking off his Fremantle shirt with a WCE one being worn underneath. He walks up onto the stage with Matt Clarke to the outrage of Fremantle. As Matt Clarke boasts about the move, Knobel grabs a trash can and drops the Freo shirt into it

 

[JackOutback]

There's no getting Freo back in this situation.
They've delisted the bloke.
Any other team are free to talk to him or draft him.
Same goes for any player that is delisted player.

Well, they are planning to rookie him, so it would be a minor inconvenience, but given they have Darcy, Jackson and Reidy, I'm sure they wouldn't care that much.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Keen for a WAFL reserves ruckman. Will be an upgrade on the slop on our list.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

The ruck situation at the club is absolutely dire. Gone from one of our traditional strengths to well below AFL standard.

Williams has toiled hard for a few years, but isn't really up to the standard we want as first ruck.
Flynn can't get on the park, huge question marks.
Jamieson and Barnett have been moved into new positions and don't seem likely to make it anyway.
Livingstone is a long shot, but tbf that's reflected in his rookie status.

Knobel as a developmental player is a no brainer. Immediate upgrade for the WAFL side also.

As an aside, the Jamieson and Barnett extensions are indicative of a poorly-run club.

 

[KERRPOW]

Yeah, this says a lot about Barnett more than anything.

Certainly hasn't kicked off his development at WCE in a hurry. Was a better player when he was 18.

Odd odd contract extension that one.

Is that entirely on the player or our player development coaches and mentors?

 

[mattyc75]

There's no getting Freo back in this situation.
They've delisted the bloke.
Any other team are free to talk to him or draft him.
Same goes for any player that is delisted player.

You'd have to think they're quite prepared to lose knobel.

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[amazingjoshy]

Massive boost for their development that they actually have a reserves + an actual selection squeeze down there. Can recognise that both Knobel and Reidy are #1 rucks and play them as such rather than shoehorning one to the forward pocket like we'd have to do.

Never a truer word spoken. Which is why if we can't sort out an alignment (very unlikely unfortunately) I still think spreading the players amongst the rest of the WAFL clubs is a much better solution than our current setup. Barnett would benefit so much more playing WAFL ressies as a full time ruck for example

But we need to keep them all together to learn the gameplan (which is losing by 10+ goals apparently) so let's keep doing it

Rant over

 

[sharps24]

While I suspect noone would make that trade, the odds of getting a solid player would be higher for the two later picks than the one teen pick in most drafts. Teen picks bust hilariously often.

Especially when we're picking them.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Fifty hit outs in some of these WAFL games means f*** all.
I haven’t seen him at all.
How does he move around the ground?
Is he a good kick?
Can he hold his own on a marking contest?
Is he aggressive?
Yes we need a ruckman but piling on for the sake of it ?

 

[KERRPOW]

This trent knobel

Trent Knobel

Age

44

Ht

204cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.8

1star

K

2.1

1star

HB

3.7

3star

HO

15.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

1.8

1star

K

0.8

1star

HB

1.0

2star

HO

7.4

5star

guy is gonna be better than natanui.

 

[Keys]

Picking up Knobel in the RD with pick 3 makes sense, unless….

….we’ve already approached him to ask for a trade or have/do approach him to sign on as a DFA but were told he’s not interested

Then drafting a player who has already said he doesn’t want to join the club, even as a rookie, makes no sense

But that won’t stop some of you from melting about how soft we are when we don’t call his name out

 

[ziad]

Is that entirely on the player or our player development coaches and mentors?

Or innate ability

 

[sharps24]

Starting to lose track of all the no-brainers we should be taking as DFA's.

Jack Caroll, no brainer
Trent Knobell, no brainer
Denver Tom-Barrass, meh whats the harm
Tom Clurey

17

Tom Clurey

Age

30

Ht

193cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.7

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

156.0

2star

D

10.9

3star

K

8.9

4star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.3

2star

MG

156.0

3star

D

7.8

2star

K

6.0

3star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

, hey that's free depth sign him up
Ethan Phillips, better than both those other guys so add him in as well
Coby Burgeil, well if he gets through the preseason unscathed
Josh Rotham

35

Josh Rotham

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.8

2star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

167.2

3star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

157.5

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

168.0

3star

, what was that instagram post all about eh?

Do we actually want to draft any players this year or?

**** Richmond and them getting 2 and Norths F1 for 6 and 11. Cut a deal with North for their f1 for 12 and a f2/3 and make Richmond accept 2 and an f2 for 6 and 11, which is more than fair.

Gives us 3 f1's next year plus our haul of f2s and 3s.

Bundle up all our f2s and f3s and get back into this draft with another pick [or 2] in the 20's and call it a day.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

If freo try to rookie Knobel i would be happy to pinch him after they have put in 2 years of development

Well this was a good call

 

[archiemoses]

Dockers forward delisted, young ruck victim of list squeeze

Fremantle has made further list changes ahead of the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

Knobel has been delisted with view to rerookie!

So if WCE_phil is to be believed, he was having lots of conversations with Freo so clearly Knobel wasn't one of the players in question.

 

[shooshka]

I was thinking like a wrestlers heel turn. Knobel rocks up to the rookie draft in a Fremantle jumper, then “with pick 3, Eagles select Max Knobel”. Cut to picture of Knobel taking off his Fremantle shirt with a WCE one being worn underneath. He walks up onto the stage with Matt Clarke to the outrage of Fremantle. As Matt Clarke boasts about the move, Knobel grabs a trash can and drops the Freo shirt into it

I like it.

Well, the rookie draft is done 100% online, no tv, no stage, no cameras… but if we can convince the AFL to change that due to the significant national audience pull of 2 teams in checks notes Western Australia then we are on!

I hope we have a chat to him and seriously consider him, but doubt Freo care that much if he is poached.


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[chaddy22]

Picking up Knobel in the RD with pick 3 makes sense, unless….

….we’ve already approached him to ask for a trade or have/do approach him to sign on as a DFA but were told he’s not interested

Then drafting a player who has already said he doesn’t want to join the club, even as a rookie, makes no sense

But that won’t stop some of you from melting about how soft we are when we don’t call his name out

Not sure why he wouldn't be interested.
He is already here.
His development would be quicker as he would get a regular Wafl game and possibly a Afl debut sooner.
Mind you after seeing how Dev Robertson has bungled his chances of regular Afl games anything is possible.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

So if WCE_phil is to be believed, he was having lots of conversations with Freo so clearly Knobel wasn't one of the players in question.

He was chasing o'driscoll

 

[Obeanie1]

There's no getting Freo back in this situation.
They've delisted the bloke.
Any other team are free to talk to him or draft him.
Same goes for any player that is delisted player.

As a minimun if he ticks the boxes make him an offer.

The bloke just got sacked.

If he can get a 3 year deal he can set himself up with confidence the club is willing to back him with a main list spot. Freo hasn't done that nor offered that.

As a DFA he will be an UFA every time he comes out of contract. Set himself up with some security and get experience and cash in.

 

[briztoon]

Can Knoble be signed as a DFA? If so its a no brainer.

Yes.

AFL is a business and players move, get cut and end up elsewhere. The Ruck Merry Go Round 2024 is up and going.

Knoble is a 206cm pure ruck (forward craft.?) and will turn 21 in June next year. So still some way to go in his development. And many rucks peak in their late 20's and even early 30's. He a longer term prospect, good age and potential.

If Collingwood or some such sign him that would.......... annoy.

Probably Geelong.

 

[Ghossein]

this is our entire backline

 

[eaglevision]

Yes.

Probably Geelong.

Unlikely having just taken Mitch Edwards.

 

[FKASC]

Kissed on the Knobel

 

[WCE_18]

Didn’t this happen a few years back, Gold Coast delisted Greenwood to put him on the rookie list and then North swooped signing him as a DFA?

 

[Mop]

Didn’t this happen a few years back, Gold Coast delisted Greenwood to put him on the rookie list and then North swooped signing him as a DFA?

It happened with someone, couldn’t remember who though