List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

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Contract status of all players now fully updated

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2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R) Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Current contract status (Updated 18/10/24) : Total 39 Players -...

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[Schtinker]

Liam Bedford? And it was 12 years ago and I had the honour of sponsoring him for his sole year at the footy club

Sponsorship by wirra44 = Poison Chalice

 

[dkalphy]

I doubt we would give 26 & 27 for a 5 pick upgrade on 20.

What im trying to say is its subject to whose available at pick 15...If hewitt is there i would make that trade because he wont get to pick 15

 

[JADED]

Liam Bedford? And it was 12 years ago and I had the honour of sponsoring him for his sole year at the footy club

That's the one, gee, 12 years.
Thought of him the other day when Toby Bedford requested a trade.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

GWS hit the draft with picks 2 and 3.
Eagles hit the draft with 12, 19, 20, 21, 26, 27 (Rioli).

Seems like a massive win win and yes we probably don’t get that high end star this year but six picks in the 12-27 range seems like a no brainer for where our list profile is at.

Caveat as always is that I know * all about this draft class but I’m a big believer across all sports in throwing as many darts as you can, especially inside the early rounds.

So it'll be like say

2014

Petracca and Brayshaw

vs

Corey Ellis, Blaine Boekhorst, Jayden Laverde, Hugh Goddard, Toby Mclean, Lukas Webb

 

[TerryFilk]

What im trying to say is its subject to whose available at pick 15...If hewitt is there i would make that trade because he wont get to pick 15

I’d much rather 15 than both of 26 and 27 personally, at 15 there’ll 110% be a great option that slides

 

[Obeanie1]

I doubt we would give 26 & 27 for a 5 pick upgrade on 20.

Especially with the Lions chasing picks for points. Pick 15 will slide. May get used. And if the Lions do trade in other few 2nd rounders they are also used.

I would hold our cards until after trade week unless a really good pick swap is offered. Let them come to us. If not we use our good picks.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

If Norf don't bid on Ashcroft and we do, can Brisbane then trade with us for picks too use on Ashcroft?

 

[GoldenEagle]

I’d much rather 15 than both of 26 and 27 personally, at 15 there’ll 110% be a great option that slides

Yep would be much more likely 26 & 27 for 15. I havent really looked to closely at the Lions list but trading in a heap of late picks would mean they would have to have quite a few list spots available. Thats going to be quite a juggling act for a team that was 1 win from a gf.

 

[Forward Press]

Corey Ellis, Blaine Boekhorst, Jayden Laverde, Hugh Goddard, Toby Mclean, Lukas Webb

In all seriousness though, would GWS even be amenable to that kind of swap? I'd be happy if we managed to pull that off.

 

[TerryFilk]

If Norf don't bid on Ashcroft and we do, can Brisbane then trade with us for picks too use on Ashcroft?

Yeah I believe so, but if it comes to that that’s when we go to Brisbane and say we won’t bid on Ashcroft if you do a deal for 15 with us or something

 

[Lazzas]

For the sake of it, Let's dissect Narkles input Quinton Narkle hasn't really done anything to prove his anything more the XON
You could make a case that XON has been less in the system but has been on steady rise each season and is improving at a better rate then Narkles. Narkles stats are not that impressive. This will be his sixth season in the AFL. Nothing indicates he is better then XON or warrants selection over XON. If anything it's the other way around. XON>Narkle

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He is also injury prone. Has previously Torn ACL, had hamstring injuries I hope the Eagles don't pull the trigger.

 

[bzparkes]

He is also injury prone. Has previously Torn ACL, had hamstring injuries I hope the Eagles don't pull the trigger.

Why?

Someone needs to replace Tom Joyce on the perma-injured list.

 

[TOA.]

I’d much rather 15 than both of 26 and 27 personally, at 15 there’ll 110% be a great option that slides

Really depends on how we view the draft. I've heard most experts say there is a top 9 or so and then throw a blanket over the next 20-30 players and there is no clear order. If thats the case, i'd rather 26 and 27. If our recruiters think there is a really clear top 12-15 then go for 15.

 

[Lazzas]

Why?

Someone needs to replace Tom Joyce on the perma-injured list.

Fair enough I guess it's extra practice for the club medical, Strength and conditioning mob.

 

[Barrybran]

So it'll be like say

2014

Petracca and Brayshaw

vs

Corey Ellis, Blaine Boekhorst, Jayden Laverde, Hugh Goddard, Toby Mclean, Lukas Webb

I was curious to see if this was biased at all...

	2014​	2015​	2016​	2017​	2018​	2019​
2​	Christian Petracca	Josh Schache	Tim Taranto	Andrew Brayshaw	Jack Lukosius	Noah Anderson
3​	Angus Brayshaw	Callum Mills	Hugh McLuggage	Paddy Dow	Izak Rankine	Luke Jackson
12​	Corey Ellis	Charlie Curnow	Jy Simpkin	Darcy Fogarty	Zak Butters	Kysaiah Pickett
19​	Blaine Boekhurst	Ryan Burton	Tim English	Will Powell	Liam Stocker	Sam De Koning
20​	Jayden Laverde	Brayden Fiorini	Isaac Cummin	Callum Coleman-Jones	Riley Collier-Dawkins	Sam Philp
21​	Hugh Goddard	Ben McKay	Will Hayward	Oscar Allen	Ely Smith	Thomson Dow
26​	Toby McLean	Keiran Collins	Brandan Parfitt	Liam Ryan	Rhylee West	Will Gould
27​	Lukas Webb	Darcy Tucker	Zac Fisher	Brent Daniels	Tom Sparrow	Jeremy Sharp

A few handy players in the 12/19/20/21/26/27 group but I reckon you'd take 2/3 in all six years

 

[Dugg]

Absolutely no need to split pick 2 (unless we can get 2 top 10 picks somehow). With Rioli leaving we should have enough 2nd rounders to trade up for another late 1st rounder if need be.

 

[Forward Press]

I was curious to see if this was biased at all...

	2014​	2015​	2016​	2017​	2018​	2019​
2​	Christian Petracca	Josh Schache	Tim Taranto	Andrew Brayshaw	Jack Lukosius	Noah Anderson
3​	Angus Brayshaw	Callum Mills	Hugh McLuggage	Paddy Dow	Izak Rankine	Luke Jackson
12​	Corey Ellis	Charlie Curnow	Jy Simpkin	Darcy Fogarty	Zak Butters	Kysaiah Pickett
19​	Blaine Boekhurst	Ryan Burton	Tim English	Will Powell	Liam Stocker	Sam De Koning
20​	Jayden Laverde	Brayden Fiorini	Isaac Cummin	Callum Coleman-Jones	Riley Collier-Dawkins	Sam Philp
21​	Hugh Goddard	Ben McKay	Will Hayward	Oscar Allen	Ely Smith	Thomson Dow
26​	Toby McLean	Keiran Collins	Brandan Parfitt	Liam Ryan	Rhylee West	Will Gould
27​	Lukas Webb	Darcy Tucker	Zac Fisher	Brent Daniels	Tom Sparrow	Jeremy Sharp

A few handy players in the 12/19/20/21/26/27 group but I reckon you'd take 2/3 in all six years

2015 I'd take the group of six. But fair point.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

I was curious to see if this was biased at all...

	2014​	2015​	2016​	2017​	2018​	2019​
2​	Christian Petracca	Josh Schache	Tim Taranto	Andrew Brayshaw	Jack Lukosius	Noah Anderson
3​	Angus Brayshaw	Callum Mills	Hugh McLuggage	Paddy Dow	Izak Rankine	Luke Jackson
12​	Corey Ellis	Charlie Curnow	Jy Simpkin	Darcy Fogarty	Zak Butters	Kysaiah Pickett
19​	Blaine Boekhurst	Ryan Burton	Tim English	Will Powell	Liam Stocker	Sam De Koning
20​	Jayden Laverde	Brayden Fiorini	Isaac Cummin	Callum Coleman-Jones	Riley Collier-Dawkins	Sam Philp
21​	Hugh Goddard	Ben McKay	Will Hayward	Oscar Allen	Ely Smith	Thomson Dow
26​	Toby McLean	Keiran Collins	Brandan Parfitt	Liam Ryan	Rhylee West	Will Gould
27​	Lukas Webb	Darcy Tucker	Zac Fisher	Brent Daniels	Tom Sparrow	Jeremy Sharp

A few handy players in the 12/19/20/21/26/27 group but I reckon you'd take 2/3 in all six years

Exactly.

Madness to trade so far out of the top 2/3 for a whole pile of middling talent (for the most part).

 

[TerryFilk]

Absolutely no need to split pick 2 (unless we can get 2 top 10 picks somehow). With Rioli leaving we should have enough 2nd rounders to trade up for another late 1st rounder if need be.

Yeah unless we’re getting a top 7 pick and another first I’m not interested in splitting 2

20,26, 27 (Rioli trade) and 38 is more than enough capital to move up

 

[Forward Press]

Exactly.

Madness to trade so far out of the top 2/3 for a whole pile of middling talent (for the most part).

Drafting is getting better, though...

And in the hypothetical we don't have both picks 2 and 3 anyway, so the comparison needs to be modified in that regard. In 2015 for example, everyone would take that group of six over Josh Schache.

 

[THE A5]

With Masten's retirement last year and Nelson's delisting this year, there is a clear vacancy for two whipping boys.

Masto’s been retired for 3 years lol

 

[kranky al]

Masto’s been retired for 3 years lol

I award this post 2 chilled out mastos

 

[HoneyBadger35]

I was curious to see if this was biased at all...

	2014​	2015​	2016​	2017​	2018​	2019​
2​	Christian Petracca	Josh Schache	Tim Taranto	Andrew Brayshaw	Jack Lukosius	Noah Anderson
3​	Angus Brayshaw	Callum Mills	Hugh McLuggage	Paddy Dow	Izak Rankine	Luke Jackson
12​	Corey Ellis	Charlie Curnow	Jy Simpkin	Darcy Fogarty	Zak Butters	Kysaiah Pickett
19​	Blaine Boekhurst	Ryan Burton	Tim English	Will Powell	Liam Stocker	Sam De Koning
20​	Jayden Laverde	Brayden Fiorini	Isaac Cummin	Callum Coleman-Jones	Riley Collier-Dawkins	Sam Philp
21​	Hugh Goddard	Ben McKay	Will Hayward	Oscar Allen	Ely Smith	Thomson Dow
26​	Toby McLean	Keiran Collins	Brandan Parfitt	Liam Ryan	Rhylee West	Will Gould
27​	Lukas Webb	Darcy Tucker	Zac Fisher	Brent Daniels	Tom Sparrow	Jeremy Sharp

A few handy players in the 12/19/20/21/26/27 group but I reckon you'd take 2/3 in all six years

Nice work. Agreed you’d prefer 2 and 3. Difference is we don’t get both 2 and 3 in any situation.

If GWS wanted the deal it becomes what do you like more for the Eagles;
2, 20, 26, 27.
12, 19, 20, 21, 26, 27.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Nice work. Agreed you’d prefer 2 and 3. Difference is we don’t get both 2 and 3 in any situation.

If GWS wanted the deal it becomes what do you like more for the Eagles;
2, 20, 26, 27.
12, 19, 20, 21, 26, 27.

I'd want a top 5 pick for any deal involving pick 2.

 

[dkalphy]

So i guess norf take Wardlaw now and we take Cadman. Yes.