List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

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Contract status of all players now fully updated

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R) Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Current contract status (Updated 18/10/24) : Total 39 Players -...

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[Obeanie1]

Alright, let’s try again.

Bulldogs receive: 2, 20
Bulldogs lose: Dunkley, 11

Eagles receive: 8, 11, 27
Eagles lose: Rioli, 2, 20, 54

Port receive: Rioli, Dunkley, 54
Port lose: 8, 27 (Amon)

(Assuming Amon compo is a second-rounder. Picks after that have been adjusted)

We split 2 into 8 and 11, and get 27 in return for Rioli and 20. Leaves us with 8, 11, 26, 27 and 39 to take to the draft.

Dogs upgrade from 11 to 2, and get 20 in return for Dunkley.

Not bad but feel we can do better trading pick 2 to GC for 5 plus two 2nds.

20 plus one of those GC 2nds 2nd gets Lions 13.

5 and 13, 25 and 31 is better than 8, 11 and 27.

 

[GrumpyGoron]

I know the club is pretty much lazy with everything, but I do find myself confused every year as to why it takes them so damn long to announce delistings.

GIVE US WHAT WE WANT

 

[DanWCE]

I know the club is pretty much lazy with everything, but I do find myself confused every year as to why it takes them so damn long to announce delistings.

GIVE US WHAT WE WANT

We're on the record that we won't be culling the list until trade/draft is done.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If you need to include Rosa, who we basically pushed out the door and turned into Cole, in your list of trades where we bent over then you’re struggling.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

We're on the record that we won't be culling the list until trade/draft is done.

Thought they said “until WAFL is done”.

Culling after the draft is done is actually impossible.

 

[WCE_Phill]

Alright, let’s try again.

Bulldogs receive: 2, 20
Bulldogs lose: Dunkley, 11

Eagles receive: 8, 11, 27
Eagles lose: Rioli, 2, 20, 54

Port receive: Rioli, Dunkley, 54
Port lose: 8, 27 (Amon)

(Assuming Amon compo is a second-rounder. Picks after that have been adjusted)

We split 2 into 8 and 11, and get 27 in return for Rioli and 20. Leaves us with 8, 11, 26, 27 and 39 to take to the draft.

Dogs upgrade from 11 to 2, and get 20 in return for Dunkley.

We're getting reamed imo

Lose Rioli and split 2 and 20 for 8 and 11?

We could split 2 for 8/11 without Rioli if we wanted too

 

[Doashuey]

Tarryn Thomas name still getting mentioned as a possible want out of North.

We have to be in his ear. Don’t think he will come any cheaper after a horrible year.

Not sure we have a pressing need for a mid/forward averaging 6 kicks and 6 HBs a game. We have enough developing low production mids on our list already.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Alright, let’s try again.

Bulldogs receive: 2, 20
Bulldogs lose: Dunkley, 11

Eagles receive: 8, 11, 27
Eagles lose: Rioli, 2, 20, 54

Port receive: Rioli, Dunkley, 54
Port lose: 8, 27 (Amon)

(Assuming Amon compo is a second-rounder. Picks after that have been adjusted)

We split 2 into 8 and 11, and get 27 in return for Rioli and 20. Leaves us with 8, 11, 26, 27 and 39 to take to the draft.

Dogs upgrade from 11 to 2, and get 20 in return for Dunkley.

Not only are we giving away Rioli for nothing but we're giving away more value in draft picks than we're getting in?

 

[DanWCE]

Thought they said “until WAFL is done”.

Culling after the draft is done is actually impossible.

Must have been until trade period is done then. Basically see if we can lure any seagulls to take our scraps before we prematurely cut some role players.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Not only are we giving away Rioli for nothing but we're giving away more value in draft picks than we're getting in?

I just got told not to worry about the points value

 

[squashface]

Must have been until trade period is done then. Basically see if we can lure any seagulls to take our scraps before we prematurely cut some role players.

I like it. If no one comes for Langdon we can hang on to him and sign him up for 3 more years

 

[DanWCE]

I like it. If no one comes for Langdon we can hang on to him and sign him up for 3 more years

I can't imagine we'll secure Langdon @ 3 years. Port bound to grab him @ 4.

 

[Elite Pete]

Not sure we have a pressing need for a mid/forward averaging 6 kicks and 6 HBs a game. We have enough developing low production mids on our list already.

Couldn’t disagree more.

X factor and looks a future 20d+ and 2g a game mid. This year was a horrible year. Aka this is the lowest price you will get him for imo

 

[amazingjoshy]

I just got told not to worry about the points value

Still, handing out points to take Rioli off our hands seems excessive

 

[Altum Volantes]

Tarryn Thomas name still getting mentioned as a possible want out of North.

We have to be in his ear. Don’t think he will come any cheaper after a horrible year.

Well I guess the player welfare department will need a new hand to hold once Rioli has got himself into a more comfortable space.

No more guys that have attitude/behavioural issues. It’s the worst time to take them on - if anything, off loading our resident problem child is making life easier for everyone.

Let’s focus on actual professionals and…sigh…as Kane ****ing Cornes said, get those standards back up to what they were.

If guys can’t keep up, won’t get in line or want out then they have to go. Whether they are a giant Fijian, a vaccine avoiding simpleton or a formerly high Flyin’ forward.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Couldn’t disagree more.

X factor and looks a future 20d+ and 2g a game mid. This year was a horrible year. Aka this is the lowest price you will get him for imo

that's a very very optimistic outlook....

I don't mind TT, if we got him cheap. Need to work out what the hell went on this year though.

 

[The Dodger]

Bulldogs receive: 8, 20, 54 39
Bulldogs lose: Dunkley, 11

Eagles receive: 11, 27
Eagles lose: Rioli, 20, 39, 54

Port receive: Rioli, Dunkley, 39 54
Port lose: 8, 27 (Amon)

(Assuming Amon compo is a second-rounder. Picks after that have been adjusted)

Based on points, values Rioli at ~29 and Dunkley at ~11 8.

Leaves us with 2, 11, 26 and 27 to take to the draft.

Who have I ripped off?

I come in peace...um where does Barrass to the Bulldgos for not much fit in to that trade scenario?

 

[Jupes]

when can we expect some delistings?

 

[UseR2006]

Monkhorst and Andy Otten

Andy Otten

Age

35

Ht

192cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

7.3

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

4.9

5star

T

2.2

4star

MG

175.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

14.2

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

let go as assistants from the Hawks.
Monkhorst being a Ruck Coach... Any interest to see if we can speed up Williams and Jamieson?

 

[UseR2006]

Also Zurhaar signed at North.

 

[WCE_phil]

Monkhorst and Andy Otten let go as assistants from the Hawks.
Monkhorst being a Ruck Coach... Any interest to see if we can speed up Williams and Jamieson?

TBH I think Nicnat is the best ruck coach in the league. He just also happens to still be a player.

 

[dinnaz]

There is no good relations anymore in trading. We seen that first hand with Geelong and the Kelly trade. Every club is a dog. The trade table is a dog eat dog world now. The sooner everyone realises it the better. Not one club has given us respect over the last few years. Why should it be any different for us.

I wonder what your thoughts on politicians are

 

[UseR2006]

TBH I think Nicnat is the best ruck coach in the league. He just also happens to still be a player.

I don't know about that. Comes across to me as a natural ruckman but maybe not so great at teaching.

 

[Free Agent]

I wonder what your thoughts on politicians are

Politicians- Rich Private School Boys.
98% of them straight out of Boarding School into Politics.

 

[DanWCE]

I don't know about that. Comes across to me as a natural ruckman but maybe not so great at teaching.

He's got a full academy dedicated to teaching