List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

[Keys]

Contract status of all players now fully updated

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R) Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Current contract status (Updated 18/10/24) : Total 39 Players -...

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[dinnaz]

Politicians- Rich Private School Boys.
98% of them straight out of Boarding School into Politics.

 

[UseR2006]

He's got a full academy dedicated to teaching

Does he do the teaching himself or does he get others to do it for him?
Chad Morrison is the Academy coach so outside of his name being on it and him going to visit every now and then what does he actually do with the academy?

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

We need to keep 20 in the event Hewett or bussingler slides

That pick 20 will end up 26 - 27 after ashcroft fletcher davey bids + amon mcstay possibly degoey and norf priority picks
Doubt either of buss or Hewett last that long

 

[Altum Volantes]

Monkhorst and Andy Otten let go as assistants from the Hawks.
Monkhorst being a Ruck Coach... Any interest to see if we can speed up Williams and Jamieson?

The only issue being that Hawthorn haven’t produced a ruckman of their own of any note for around 30 years.

 

[UseR2006]

The only issue being that Hawthorn haven’t produced a ruckman of their own of any note for around 30 years.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

With the AFL signing a new 7 year TV deal, that will significantly increase the salary cap. The 2022 salary cap is $12.45 million. The TV deal is an increase of 36% on the current year and while they may stage the increases over years, the next cap should be up at least $1 million in 2023 to $13.45, $14.45 in 2024 and then increase by $1 mln pa for the following 5 seasons until it reaches around $19.45 in 2029.

That will have a significant impact on our list build. We are supposedly very tight but only for a couple of years once Gaff and Guv contracts expire. This could mean we go harder for Jackson this off season!

Looking at the list of players out of contract at the end of 2023, there is not a single high earner that will need to be paid more, most likely a number earning less. That gets us back to where we could possibly forward pay some players. I am assuming that West Coast are maintaining the policy of not have automatic escalators in the contracts

 

[MIKE85]

Wonder if pick 8 (if we could get it from Port) would be enough for Jackson? We could throw in a Jackson of our own to sweeten the deal

 

[Obeanie1]

I don't know about that. Comes across to me as a natural ruckman but maybe not so great at teaching.

And Moghurst looks like a better coach?

 

[fidstar]

I'm one of those people that don't care when someone leaves a club. It's a job you do while you have your contract. When Judd left I happily thanked him, moved on. If Gaff had done the same, I would have been fine.

But Rioli, after what happened, would be unforgivable.

I'll boo a player for the first time in my life.

 

[Cuzz09]

The only issue being that Hawthorn haven’t produced a ruckman of their own of any note for around 30 years.

Plus Monkhorst would eat Jamieson.



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[Bender_]

Plus Monkhorst would eat Jamieson.



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With Monkhort's current dental situation he'd need to make him into a soup first.

 

[Keys]

Just read the last 30 pages of this thread - gotta say I'm pretty disappointed Rioli was not compared to Hitler at all.

Lift your game, innernet.

Hitlers birthday is April 20 so 4/20

There’s your link

I don't know about that. Comes across to me as a natural ruckman but maybe not so great at teaching.

Naitanui coached Vardy and Lycett through the 2018 finals when they got hold of Grundy (twice) and Gawn

Hickey is a much better ruckman at Sydney than he was at St Kilda - I’d suggest he learned plenty at West Coast working with Nic. His problem here wasn’t that he couldn’t ruck but that he struggled as number 2 with his best games for us coming when Naitanui wasn’t playing

I think you’re underestimating his ability to be a ruck coach

 

[Dark Sharks]

If only Naitanu could coach himself how to actually try marking a football when we need him to, instead of just throwing a lazy fist up at it every single time?

 

[boondy]

This finals stuff is boring , can't wait til it's over and we win trade week .

 

[THE A5]

Hitlers birthday is April 20 so 4/20

There’s your link



Naitanui coached Vardy and Lycett through the 2018 finals when they got hold of Grundy (twice) and Gawn

Hickey is a much better ruckman at Sydney than he was at St Kilda - I’d suggest he learned plenty at West Coast working with Nic. His problem here wasn’t that he couldn’t ruck but that he struggled as number 2 with his best games for us coming when Naitanui wasn’t playing

I think you’re underestimating his ability to be a ruck coach

when hickey started yes but he was absolute Poo in 2020. He made Tim English look like Dean Cox in that crucial game against the dogs and a huge reason why we ended up losing that game. To his credit he has vastly improved at the swans

 

[Bender_]

Hitlers birthday is April 20 so 4/20

There’s your link



Naitanui coached Vardy and Lycett through the 2018 finals when they got hold of Grundy (twice) and Gawn

Hickey is a much better ruckman at Sydney than he was at St Kilda - I’d suggest he learned plenty at West Coast working with Nic. His problem here wasn’t that he couldn’t ruck but that he struggled as number 2 with his best games for us coming when Naitanui wasn’t playing

I think you’re underestimating his ability to be a ruck coach

Imagine sharing a birthday with Hitler though.

 

[Keys]

Imagine sharing a birthday with Hitler though.

Yeah, imagine

You certainly wouldn’t want that person being a mod

 

[hbk2015]

So we interested in Liam Stocker

14

Liam Stocker

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

or Xavier Duursma

28

Xavier Duursma

Age

24

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.5

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

8.5

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.1

4star

CL

1.6

4star

D

13.0

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.3

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

16.8

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

1.6

4star

?

 

[GWeagles]

I read the Blues thought Stocker lacked pace so that would count against him for us, if that is correct.

 

[Goosecat]

Hitlers birthday is April 20 so 4/20

There’s your link



Naitanui coached Vardy and Lycett through the 2018 finals when they got hold of Grundy (twice) and Gawn

Hickey is a much better ruckman at Sydney than he was at St Kilda - I’d suggest he learned plenty at West Coast working with Nic. His problem here wasn’t that he couldn’t ruck but that he struggled as number 2 with his best games for us coming when Naitanui wasn’t playing

I think you’re underestimating his ability to be a ruck coach

Dude this is not reality.
Thankfully Jonathan was coaching Rucks all through 2018 and the fact we had capable fill ins for when Nic went down can to a large extent be attributed to his input.
The reason Bailey made the big leap in around ground positioning the last few weeks was thanks to certain people finally acknowledging we needed more input/direction in this area. Nic has never really grasped it; ever unfortunately.

 

[Bender_]

Dude this is not reality.
Thankfully Jonathan was coaching Rucks all through 2018 and the fact we had capable fill ins for when Nic went down can to a large extent be attributed to his input.
The reason Bailey made the big leap in around ground positioning the last few weeks was thanks to certain people finally acknowledging we needed more input/direction in this area. Nic has never really grasped it; ever unfortunately.

Is the Jonathan you're referring to Giles?

 

[Goldfish]

I read the Blues thought Stocker lacked pace so that would count against him for us, if that is correct.

Or would it? We haven't drafted many quick players of late so the Pieman may take it as a positive...

 

[Keys]

Dude this is not reality.
Thankfully Jonathan was coaching Rucks all through 2018 and the fact we had capable fill ins for when Nic went down can to a large extent be attributed to his input.
The reason Bailey made the big leap in around ground positioning the last few weeks was thanks to certain people finally acknowledging we needed more input/direction in this area. Nic has never really grasped it; ever unfortunately.

Eagles receive help from pricey ruck coach

West Coast have a secret weapon to combat Collingwood big man Brodie Grundy in Saturday's grand final - the most expensive ruck coach in AFL history.

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I stand to be corrected but I thought Giles left before the 2018 season finished

 

[Goosecat]

Eagles receive help from pricey ruck coach

West Coast have a secret weapon to combat Collingwood big man Brodie Grundy in Saturday's grand final - the most expensive ruck coach in AFL history.

thewest.com.au

I stand to be corrected but I thought Giles left before the 2018 season finished

Other work made it tougher on him with time constraints but he remained available thankfully.
I should clarify;Nic has some outstanding traits, but there are deficiencies, or perhaps better phrased as "gaps" he is not capable of filling.

 

[Mulldogg]

For a team that finished second last with the worst season in club history and in desperate need of a rebuild we sure are taking our sweet arse time announcing delistings.