List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract (16) - 2025
  • Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
  • Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
  • (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
 
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flamingEMBERS said:
Really shouldn’t matter what pick we used, but he’s kicked 60 goals in his last two seasons and he’s in the prime of his career.

Cripps kicked 27 last year which is decent but other than that, do we want to keep running the same spuds that have kept us to SFA wins?
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Cripps will be gone soon. Ryan could be too with another underwhelming season ,especially with a few nga guys coming through
Owies,long, dewar is a decent starting point tho

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Happy Mastenator said:
Cripps isn't a small crumbing forward like Owies either. Cripps best work is getting up the ground, not at the feet of the talls.

Haven't had a small crumbing forward of any note since Rioli.
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Plus I think he's actually gonna put in an effort to make sure the ball stays inside our 50. Our efforts to keep the ball locked in the 50 in resent years have been repulsive.
 
Happy Mastenator said:
Cripps isn't a small crumbing forward like Owies either. Cripps best work is getting up the ground, not at the feet of the talls.

Haven't had a small crumbing forward of any note since Rioli.
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Owies isnt really a crumbing forward, he was just the only small forward Carlton had that knew anything about positioning.
Carlton tried a few different options during the year to be that crumber, its just not Owies natural role.

He seems very similar to Cripps, but hes just not as good. He gets as many goals as he does because hes been basically the #3 target inside 50 for Carlton.
He will at least tackle and pressure for us, if we want a crumber hes not really our guy though
 

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Happy Mastenator said:
Cripps isn't a small crumbing forward like Owies either. Cripps best work is getting up the ground, not at the feet of the talls.

Haven't had a small crumbing forward of any note since Rioli.
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Owies is closer to Cripps and he isn't a specialist crumbing small forward.

Owies like Cripps gets up the ground and back using work rate to get involved and lose his opponent. He also pushes deep to provide a leading option in the chaos. He isn't a stay at home small running at the feet of the tall forwards. And not sure he can provide an on ball rotation late in games as Rioli can.

Owies is as close to a Cripps replacement as you can get IMO.
 
ghostbat12 said:
If Chad fletcher played for Brisbane, briztoon would list him as elite.
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Remember that Brisbane fan on here who would regularly argue that Patrick Karnezis was a better prospect than Jack Darling. Think it was SizeMatters IIRC. He was so adamant about his convictions.
 
www.onepercenters.net.au

Beyond the Eye Test: how analytics is reshaping footy

Wherein I chat with someone who works in AFL list management about their career arc, talent identification, and clubs becoming more data-driven.
www.onepercenters.net.au www.onepercenters.net.au


Was introduced to this article today written by Sizzlepack

It’s based on an interview with an unnamed recruiter from an unnamed club to ensure anonymity for the person concerned. The recruiter is very much involved in analytics and their use in drafting, trading and game analysis

Great article and well worth a read especially in light of our move to restructure our recruiting department that includes a stated intent to increase our use of data analytics
 
eaglespremiers said:
Remember that Brisbane fan on here who would regularly argue that Patrick Karnezis was a better prospect than Jack Darling. Think it was SizeMatters IIRC. He was so adamant about his convictions.
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Karnezis Vs. Darling

Who do you think is better at the end of the year? My mate firmly believes the Lions made a huge mistake for not taking Darling. I believe otherwise and think we have the best player from the draft. These 2 players have been in the system for 3 preseasons now. Karnezis was pick 25 and...
www.bigfooty.com www.bigfooty.com

Classic
 
ronpingwins said:

Karnezis Vs. Darling

Who do you think is better at the end of the year? My mate firmly believes the Lions made a huge mistake for not taking Darling. I believe otherwise and think we have the best player from the draft. These 2 players have been in the system for 3 preseasons now. Karnezis was pick 25 and...
www.bigfooty.com www.bigfooty.com

Classic
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Laughing and crying at the OP:

Karnezis on the other hand was a nobody, an unknown who had everybody rushing to the phantom drafts to see who the heck he was. A very controversial pick as the Lions were expected to snap up Darling who would have "solved" the Lions forward problem for 10 years. In most phantom drafts he was not even acknowledged in the ND/Rookie or PSD.
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Legit sounds like a West Coast pick. Like swap Karnezis for almost any so-called midfielder we drafted between the Darling draft and maybe the year we snapped up Hewett.
 
Keys said:
www.onepercenters.net.au

Beyond the Eye Test: how analytics is reshaping footy

Wherein I chat with someone who works in AFL list management about their career arc, talent identification, and clubs becoming more data-driven.
www.onepercenters.net.au www.onepercenters.net.au


Was introduced to this article today written by Sizzlepack

It’s based on an interview with an unnamed recruiter from an unnamed club to ensure anonymity for the person concerned. The recruiter is very much involved in analytics and their use in drafting, trading and game analysis

Great article and well worth a read especially in light of our move to restructure our recruiting department that includes a stated intent to increase our use of data analytics
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A quick ChatGPT 167 word version for anyone else that hasn't got time for the full 3,486 word article:

With the AFL Draft approaching, clubs face a tough decision among a talented but even group of midfield prospects. History shows that despite similar starting points, players’ careers can vary significantly, making draft picks risky. Talent in AFL isn’t just about skill but includes attributes like athleticism, tactical awareness, and mental resilience.

Data analytics is reshaping talent evaluation in the AFL, as seen in the journey of “Bailey,” a data analyst working for an AFL club. Starting with a self-built player rating model at a state league club, Bailey’s innovative approach led to recruitment success and a role at an AFL club. Their work includes using advanced performance metrics and creating custom models to identify top prospects.

Despite analytics’ growing role, psychological traits remain crucial but hard to measure. Clubs strive to balance data insights with traditional scouting, a blend essential for drafting success. As AFL clubs embrace analytics, they enhance their ability to make informed decisions, ultimately improving the game’s quality for fans and players alike.
 
eaglespremiers said:
Remember that Brisbane fan on here who would regularly argue that Patrick Karnezis was a better prospect than Jack Darling. Think it was SizeMatters IIRC. He was so adamant about his convictions.
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To be fair, Karnezis never dropped a mark in the goal square in a grand final. so who's the real draft winner?
 

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flamingEMBERS said:
Really shouldn’t matter what pick we used, but he’s kicked 60 goals in his last two seasons and he’s in the prime of his career.

Cripps kicked 27 last year which is decent but other than that, do we want to keep running the same spuds that have kept us to SFA wins?
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Cripps also made the ball look like a bar of soap in a heck of alot of games last year.

Anyone putting pressure on him to clean that up to an acceptable afl level will be a very welcome addition.
 
Happy Mastenator said:
Don't you dare take out lord and saviour's name in vain!

He'll come round and train your house the **** down if you don't show some respect.
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If he had managed to kick a goal from 40m out in the last quarter of the 2018 GF that would have put us in front then he would be a legend and not Dom Sheed.
 
BSD said:
If he had managed to kick a goal from 40m out in the last quarter of the 2018 GF that would have put us in front then he would be a legend and not Dom Sheed.
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I was so disappointed when he missed that set shot. Not just because I was crapping myself (as we were still behind), but I knew if he'd done it he'd go from whipping boy to hero. I'm sure he knew it too, but he choked, so he will always be a whipping boy.
 
Avalor said:
What can you tell us about these lads? Would be great to uncover a Stephen Michael type. Or a Ted Kilmurray.
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McGlade is a dynamic, evasive, proper crumbing small forward with very good skills.

Kenh is a 185cm ish half back with a great athletic profile, he provides a lot of run/rebound out of the back line and possesses a beautiful left foot kick. AA under 16
 

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