List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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• Monday, November 25, 2024 – Thursday, December 19, 2024
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Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

[briztoon]

I do agree, but we probably need a couple of those elite kicks in the side, doessnt have to be in the middle though.

I think a player like Freddy fits us better than a guy like Warner tbh, assuming Reid stays and Hewett goes alright this year.

That’s been my line of thought as well. I’d take Rodriguez and an elite in and under mid over Warner.

 

[WCE777]

Yes using picks for proven talent is not a bad thing at all, but using a top 5 pick when we dont have to is silly, if we were to only get Warner for example.

agree

 

[stallon]

That’s been my line of thought as well. I’d take Rodriguez and an elite in and under mid over Warner.

Yeah, we are pretty well stocked for those attacking mids. By 2026 ideally we have Reid and Hewett full time through the middle, just isnt a good fit to add in Warner too, just too much of the same. I think Allan should end up in a similar mould in a couple of years too, as an attacking mid closer to Yeos style.

We start having to put them forward, which isnt necessarily a bad thing, but what we gain by adding Warner with our mids to spend time forward would have to be weighed up against adding an actual small forward while keeping our existing mids in the middle. We have a lot of small forward options now, and in the near future

It can still work like how Port run with Rozee, Butters and JHF- they never have all 3 together at the same centre bounce, but its less optimal I think

Id rather Freddy and hope one of Hall/Gross/Ginbey/Grego/Hutchinson/whoever ends up being our inside mid extractor

 

[WCE777]

Look if we could trade in Warner and Kossie I'd be all in. Hawks first, both second rounders, 2026 and 2027 firsts.

Would then assuming we finish bottom couple hopefully after a great year leave us with Sharp for our first rounder to finish the midfield and all we are looking for are a serviceable ruck and 1 strong key defender. Could genuinely challenge in 2027/2028 then.

Reid, Sharp, Hewett as top line young mids, Warner taking swings in there whilst providing run, carry and goals as well as the pure silk of Kossie....

Too good to be true.

Looks like you rate Sharp very highly which is a fair call but if WC finish with 6-7 wins they will be fishing at pick 3-4.
Who else do you rate in that top 3 mids not aligned to academies and clubs?
Who would be the serviceable ruck and 1 KDEF you would have in your sights, draft or trade?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

That’s been my line of thought as well. I’d take Rodriguez and an elite in and under mid over Warner.

Have you ever seen him play live?

 

[briztoon]

Have you ever seen him play live?

Warner (yes) or Rodriguez (no)?

 

[briztoon]

Looks like you rate Sharp very highly which is a fair call but if WC finish with 6-7 wins they will be fishing at pick 3-4.
Who else do you rate in that top 3 mids not aligned to academies and clubs?
Who would be the serviceable ruck and 1 KDEF you would have in your sights, draft or trade?

Most draft watchers have rated Sharp as the potential number 1 pick from this draft crop since the U16’s.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Warner (yes) or Rodriguez (no)?

Then I suggest you keep your opinions on someone you have never seen play to yourself. How can you possibly say “I’d take Rodriguez and an elite in and under mid over Warner” when you have never seen Fred play? Sometimes you really do embarrass yourself with such ill founded posts. How about you do all of us a favour and leave here and go to Tigerland!

I assume this comes from the same file that you have previously stated Shanahan is really a third tall.

 

[We_The_West]

How about you do all of us a favour and leave here and go to Tigerland!

They are very precious over at Tigerland… he would have been banned there already for sure

 

[briztoon]

Then I suggest you keep your opinions on someone you have never seen play to yourself. How can you possibly say “I’d take Rodriguez and an elite in and under mid over Warner” when you have never seen Fred play? Sometimes you really do embarrass yourself with such ill founded posts. How about you do all of us a favour and leave here and go to Tigerland!

I assume this comes from the same file that you have previously stated Shanahan is really a third tall.

You asked me if I’d seen him live. Obviously I watched him play for WA in last year’s U18 championships. I just wasn’t sitting at the ground.

Why don’t you pick up everyone else here for having opinions on Vic kids they’ve never seen live.

As for the Shanahan comment. I didn’t say he was a third tall type, I said he’d play the third tall role, and explained as much to your comment back then, and you went mute on that discussion after that.

You and one or two others here have a crack at me for being passive aggressive or whatever, but every chance you get, you’re having an aggressive attack on my posts, without actually engaging in any conversation, it’s just attack, attack, attack from the get go.

As I’ve suggested before, if me posting here triggers you so bad, just block me.

 

[1Bally1]

The real question is will Harley resign?

 

[Bender_]

The real question is will Harley resign?

I think he'll re-sign, then resign.

 

[mattyc75]

Has anyone seen Ashton Warner training with us? Apparently he's linked to the club somehow
Someone who knows the brothers reasonably well was telling me the eagles are front runners for chad and its likely Corey will come too. Also it's believed around the traps that chad will win a brownlow in the next 5 yrs and that Corey is going to be a very good player when getting a good run at it.a very good player , on chads level.
Take all that with a grain of salt i guess but sounds promising

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[PremiershipNo4]

Has anyone seen Ashton Warner training with us? Apparently he's linked to the club somehow
Someone who knows the brothers reasonably well was telling me the eagles are front runners for chad and its likely Corey will come too. Also it's believed around the traps that chad will win a brownlow in the next 5 yrs and that Corey is going to be a very good player when getting a good run at it.a very good player , on chads level.
Take all that with a grain of salt i guess but sounds promising

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[Obeanie1]

They are very precious over at Tigerland… he would have been banned there already for sure

Ánd this board is very accomodating.

Briz wouldnt survive long on most other boards. Its why he likes this one.

 

[Obeanie1]

I'm happy for you to get whoever you get, whichever way you get them. Draft, trade, free agency. I'm simply interested to see how it pans out.

Not long ago you were enjoying telling anyone who listened that it will be a long painful road rebuilding via the draft for the Eagles. Especially without academy access rorts. (Fancy you bringing that up here) 10 years. You repeated yourself quite a bit.......no surprises there.

But when trades and free agents were mentioned you ingnored that option. Wouldnt accept that clubs rebuilding do so not just via the draft. As others have mentioned its your passive aggressive trolling style that some here dont appreciate.

Im interested in how long it will take a northern club to win a flag without the AFL pulling the strings in the background. When it happens the first time we will know

 

[mattyc75]

When talking about the team well have in a few years I guess it's hard to factor in trades/free agents etc.
Every year we'll get our hopes up say we're going to get busslinger or dev or Garcia or Cummings or zaharakis. Sure we got a few this year but generally guys we target, or we'd like our team to target never come here
Old mate Phil was scoping out freo players..and was it gws? Howd that pan out?

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[Biggie]

Ánd this board is very accomodating.

To a point

 

[WCE_phil]

When talking about the team well have in a few years I guess it's hard to factor in trades/free agents etc.
Every year we'll get our hopes up say we're going to get busslinger or dev or Garcia or Cummings or zaharakis. Sure we got a few this year but generally guys we target, or we'd like our team to target never come here
Old mate Phil was scoping out freo players..and was it gws? Howd that pan out?

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Chased players from all bar 2 clubs.

Would you have preferred we gave out the mammoth contracts that went to the GWS pair?

 

[boondy]

Gold coast get concessions and quality players leave for peanuts next door to Brisbane . Gold Coast knowing full well their concessions will keep coming

 

[Obeanie1]

When talking about the team well have in a few years I guess it's hard to factor in trades/free agents etc.
Every year we'll get our hopes up say we're going to get busslinger or dev or Garcia or Cummings or zaharakis. Sure we got a few this year but generally guys we target, or we'd like our team to target never come here
Old mate Phil was scoping out freo players..and was it gws? Howd that pan out?

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Sure.

But assuming zero improvement from trades or free agency is also a poor assumption. Name a premiership team built without trades and FAs?

The past 3 seasons we have added Hunt, Flynn, Baker, Owies, Brockman and Graham. Only one cost a decent pick. All when fit improve our list.

Only Baker would be considered close to a star recruit.

I assume over the next 2 to 3 trade / FA periods we continue turning over players, bring in top end picks plus trades and fa's. Another 5 or 6 players from other clubs.

Some will help improve our list and competitiveness.

 

[WCE777]

Sure.

But assuming zero improvement from trades or free agency is also a poor assumption. Name a premiership team built without trades and FAs?

The past 3 seasons we have added Hunt, Flynn, Baker, Owies, Brockman and Graham. Only one cost a decent pick. All when fit improve our list.

Only Baker would be considered close to a star recruit.

I assume over the next 2 to 3 trade / FA periods we continue turning over players, bring in top end picks plus trades and fa's. Another 5 or 6 players from other clubs.

Some will help improve our list and competitiveness.

100%

 

[briztoon]

When talking about the team well have in a few years I guess it's hard to factor in trades/free agents etc.
Every year we'll get our hopes up say we're going to get busslinger or dev or Garcia or Cummings or zaharakis. Sure we got a few this year but generally guys we target, or we'd like our team to target never come here
Old mate Phil was scoping out freo players..and was it gws? Howd that pan out?

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That was kind of my point 3 years ago.

Sure.

But assuming zero improvement from trades or free agency is also a poor assumption. Name a premiership team built without trades and FAs?

The past 3 seasons we have added Hunt, Flynn, Baker, Owies, Brockman and Graham. Only one cost a decent pick. All when fit improve our list.

Some else mentioned what I’m about reply here, but I can’t remember who, but the players mentioned above, improve the floor for WC, without improving your potential ceiling.

And this goes back to a point I tried making 3 years ago.

Improving WC floor only lasts so long as your mature agers and traded in players keep performing, while you wait for your kids to develop.

If those players start aging out before you start climbing the ladder, you might find yourself in a 2 step forward, 1 step back cycle.

And this goes back to a conversation and point many posters here have made about the list management during the 2019 to 2022 period.

And the main point of my post 3 years ago, that you completely ignored at the time, was that WC had very few players to trade out for extra high end picks, to help accelerate your rebuild.

If you did trade out a couple of players of value, there was always the risk that there might be a price to pay in the future if they weren’t adequately replaced by players already on the list, or a cheaper option in the near future, if some of your older players start aging out, if suitable replacements are not brought in.

Only Baker would be considered close to a star recruit.

I assume over the next 2 to 3 trade / FA periods we continue turning over players, bring in top end picks plus trades and fa's. Another 5 or 6 players from other clubs.

Some will help improve our list and competitiveness.

 

[mattyc75]

Chased players from all bar 2 clubs.

Would you have preferred we gave out the mammoth contracts that went to the GWS pair?

All I was saying was when predicting where we'll be in a few years you can't factor in we'll have this player traded in or that player traded in because it rarely happens

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[Rowan18]

That was kind of my point 3 years ago.


Some else mentioned what I’m about reply here, but I can’t remember who, but the players mentioned above, improve the floor for WC, without improving your potential ceiling.

And this goes back to a point I tried making 3 years ago.

Improving WC floor only lasts so long as your mature agers and traded in players keep performing, while you wait for your kids to develop.

If those players start aging out before you start climbing the ladder, you might find yourself in a 2 step forward, 1 step back cycle.

And this goes back to a conversation and point many posters here have made about the list management during the 2019 to 2022 period.

And the main point of my post 3 years ago, that you completely ignored at the time, was that WC had very few players to trade out for extra high end picks, to help accelerate your rebuild.

If you did trade out a couple of players of value, there was always the risk that there might be a price to pay in the future if they weren’t adequately replaced by players already on the list, or a cheaper option in the near future, if some of your older players start aging out, if suitable replacements are not brought in.

Your last point about aging out is why Brisbane and Carlton copped 10 year rebuilds. It hinges on whether the young talent develops enough to take over. I'm optimistic so far, but the next two years will answer the question. The 2021 draftees are into their fourth pre-season, so the smalls should start performing and the talls will be at the start of breaking out. If all goes well, in 2026 the likes of: Hough, Ginbey, Hewett, Reid should be driving the team with talls like: Bazzo, J Williams, A Reid, Barnett also becoming regular contributors.

I think there's enough talent there, but they need good development and to stay fit.

It is a good time for a new coach and gameplan, as hopefully it evolves as those young players step up. Hawthorn's success last year is a good example of this working, Adelaide not so much (though their excellent trading should save them).