Draft Expert Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread

[master bate]

Because the AFL know they can't run development pathways as successfully as the clubs can. They did this prior to the northern academies being established and it didn't work. Remember the NSW Scholarship program? What about when Queensland used to compete in the TAC Cup? The AFL tried to make it happen and failed time and time again. The academies linked with the clubs has been, by far, the most successful model in that regard.

Only a handful have come out of Sydney, then it’s pretty much Harris Andrews and Heeney from Brisbane and regional NSW above the Barassi line.

And Sydney produced the likes of Lenny Hayes, Jarrad McVeigh, Kieran Jack types.

The biggest boom was when the Giants got the NSW Riverina and really that was just resourcing an under resourced footy area.

Similar Gold Coast have ever increasing success but the area is a huge footy area now.

It’s talent in + genuine investment of dollars. The club model helps with the reputation for the kids but it’s not afl clubs working some kind of magical development.

The scholarship program wasn’t proper investment. You could make a NSW academy and QLD academy and resource them with the current facilities (some of which would probably have to be at AFL clubs) and staff quality and get similar results.

 

[master bate]

Doesn't it apply for Vic metro players this year? From what I can see, Isaac Kako lives in Melbourne where he attends Parade College and played for the Calder Cannons + Vic Metro this year. We know he's NGA eligible for Essendon this year and the Bombers will match a bid for him. So why don't the SA & WA clubs also have NGA access to metro players like the Victorian clubs?

They are for SA and WA teams for multi cultural players like James Borlase (lol), they don’t for Indigenous players because it would make a complete mess of the draft.

So far there’s been more high quality multicultural talents from Melbourne (Kako, Quaynor, McKenzie, Mac Andrew). But Freo have Josh Draper and Brandon Walker and both WA teams are fighting over a Zimbabwean kid who might be a top 5 pick. The Eagles could’ve had Erasmus properly in their academy but his parents didn’t return their emails and he went top 20 when it was excluded so it didn’t matter.

Metro Melbourne raised Indigenous players are so rare they’ve been included.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Only a handful have come out of Sydney, then it’s pretty much Harris Andrews and Heeney from Brisbane and regional NSW above the Barassi line.

And Eric Hipwood, Keidean Coleman, Jack Payne, Jaspa Fletcher, Ben Keays, Mabior Chol, Bruce Reville and Samson Ryan.

The scholarship program wasn’t proper investment. You could make a NSW academy and QLD academy and resource them with the current facilities (some of which would probably have to be at AFL clubs) and staff quality and get similar results.

I agree, but the AFL won't get off their butts and do it themselves.

 

[tigs2010]

Samson Ryan.

 

[weltschmerz]

The Eagles could’ve had Erasmus properly in their academy but his parents didn’t return their emails and he went top 20 when it was excluded so it didn’t matter.

Around the same time, Arty Jones could also have been in their academy but didn't fully understand it and didn't sign the paperwork. Maybe they didn't explain it too well to candidates?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Are Victorian clubs allowed to draft indigenous players from metropolitan areas through their NGA access? If so, then the rules should be changed for SA & WA too. The four clubs should band together and make the case to the AFL in the interest of fairness. Then Port would have access to Cochrane and the AFL should achieve one of their goals of increasing indigenous players participating in the AFL.

Cochrane will get drafted to another club so it's not a participation issue.

 

[GC2015]

Cochrane will get drafted to another club so it's not a participation issue.

In this case, you're right. How many other indigenous juniors from Adelaide and Perth would be developed into draftable talent if they were included in the NGAs?

 

[Futbolista]

In this case, you're right. How many other indigenous juniors from Adelaide and Perth would be developed into draftable talent if they were included in the NGAs?

I think the Noongar population in South Western Australia is far bigger than the advertised number I saw earlier. It would be closer to 8%. The census isn't always covering everybody. Some people don't participate.

Then add on the Indigenous numbers in most WA country towns and in remote communities and stations.

Has NGA helped them? Yes. In tandem with their WAFL clubs, it gives these fellas a window into what is required and they get to mingle with some big stars. A handful get a PSA scholarship.

As long as the WAFL clubs are in control (With NGA help), WA will continue to produce Indigenous stars.

 

[master bate]

And Eric Hipwood, Keidean Coleman, Jack Payne, Jaspa Fletcher, Ben Keays, Mabior Chol, Bruce Reville and Samson Ryan

I forgot about Kiddy, such a good player. And perhaps Eric. Not too worried about the rest. Although the extra development resources is important in the growth of talls like Payne, Chol and Ryan. The afl needs to find 200cm athletes wherever they can.

 

[master bate]

Around the same time, Arty Jones could also have been in their academy but didn't fully understand it and didn't sign the paperwork. Maybe they didn't explain it too well to candidates?

Fair to say maybe the Eagles recruiting and list team weren’t exactly smashing things out of the park in the last 5 or so years!