News Dons ASADA scandal (Latest: Pg 101 - CAS verdict. Guilty, 12 months.)

[Copeland]

arseh*le or arseh*le - Who Cares, Means same thing

No need to shout.

 

[TradeDraft]

With them bringing the Old Fool Sheedy back. Shows they have Hit Rock Bottom

 

[PieMan!]

I Feel like having a party on march 31 when there players get banned!

 

[TradeDraft]

I Feel like having a party on march 31 when there players get banned!

Would not surprise me at all IF they got no Ban as for Being Back-Dated or some crap like that

 

[Black_White]

Backdating is a huge possibility.
Considering the players are not playing in the NABCRAP cup I fully expect these games to be part of the "punishment".
If the players, who signed off on an off workplace injection program, get any less than 12 months then ASADA and WADA should become the laughing stock of the world.
And every professional athlete should get on the juice knowing that they can use the systematic drug program that EFC conducted will be their precedent for a light sentence.
Sport is the loser.
We are the losers.

 

[76woodenspooners]

If the finding is "guilty", will we also find out the sentencing on March 31 ?

 

[PieMan!]

If the finding is "guilty", will we also find out the sentencing on March 31 ?

I believe so, yes

 

[76woodenspooners]

A question for our resident legal folks ... ( DaVe86 Reykjavik )

If they've announced a date, then surely they've come to a verdict amongst themselves?

And if they've come to a verdict, then can't they just tell us now? What's the holdup? Does the judge need to get his wig freshly dry cleaned for the occassion? Do they need to wait for a court room to become vacant?

Can't they just save us the drama and tweet the verdict or something???

 

[Bay Pie]

If the finding is "guilty", will we also find out the sentencing on March 31 ?

I don't think so. I'm sure I read the sentencing will be done at a later date.

 

[eddiebankbalance]

 

[Apex36]

I don't think so. I'm sure I read the sentencing will be done at a later date.

The verdict is 2 days before the season starts. I assume if the verdict is guilty the provisional suspension stands until sentencing?

 

[TradeDraft]

I say there been a lot of Deals done with the Peptide Bombers behind the Scenes

 

[vjknight]

you would assume the decision is made.

31 march is JUST the decision announced.

til then their would be written reports to write detailing the decision.

then assuming guilt both sides makes submissions on what the penalties should be, backdating, reduced for assistance etc.

probably late april before the penalties are announced finally.

 

[10571z]

Just remember SAAD got 18 months and ASADA appealed it trying to increase it. I highly doubt from the amount of shit ASADA has copped from Hird (AKA ESSENDON) they will be satisfied with them missing a couple of games due to backdating. Even their boss said "would that really be fair" Or something along those lines in regards to serving a ban during the off season. Im feeling 12 months TBH

 

[MyManLynch]

The sentence should not be a 'weeks' or 'months'...it should matches.
If they backdate to October 2014, then that's 6 months already...but only represents 2-3 NAB games...which is not actually a punishment. They are training, using club facilities & full access coaches etc.
If guilty, then there must be an appropriate punishment. An 'in competition' punishment.
Otherwise it must be appealed.

 

[iGNITER]

Just want this crap to be over with.

 

[10571z]

The sentence should not be a 'weeks' or 'months'...it should matches.
If they backdate to October 2014, then that's 6 months already...but only represents 2-3 NAB games...which is not actually a punishment. They are training, using club facilities & full access coaches etc.
If guilty, then there must be an appropriate punishment. An 'in competition' punishment.
Otherwise it must be appealed.

Agreed they have missed nothing besides practice matches which plenty of players dont play

 

[DinoSoar]

If it is a guilty verdict, the ban would start from the date the infraction was issued - which was somewhere around 20th November, not the last game played. So even in the extremely unlikely event that they get a heavily reduced 6 month ban, that still takes it up to mid May = 6 or 7 games missed.

Personally, I reckon it will be guilty and they will get 12 months which means no training and they can't return to the club until November 2015. There's been a lot of wishful thinking and delusion in the media of late, "the poor players" ... "they've been duped" ... "2 week bans" Let me get out my violin The pharmacologically experimental environment is conveniently forgotten.

Whatever it takes, indeed ... ban the disgrace of a football club and let the rest of the competition get on with playing within the rules.

 

[10571z]

If it is a guilty verdict, the ban would start from the date the infraction was issued - which was somewhere around 20th November, not the last game played. So even in the extremely unlikely event that they get a heavily reduced 6 month ban, that still takes it up to mid May = 6 or 7 games missed.

Personally, I reckon it will be guilty and they will get 12 months which means no training and they can't return to the club until November 2015. There's been a lot of wishful thinking and delusion in the media of late, "the poor players" ... "they've been duped" ... "2 week bans" Let me get out my violin The pharmacologically experimental environment is conveniently forgotten.

Whatever it takes, indeed ... ban the disgrace of a football club and let the rest of the competition get on with playing within the rules.

People say they were "duped" but ffs asada talk to every player and tell them their risks and responsibility ect. Apparently some players were getting upwards of 49 injections or something? Surely a player would maybe consult their club doctor who would then have told them his concerns as well about the program.

 

[Bay Pie]

People say they were "duped" but ffs asada talk to every player and tell them their risks and responsibility ect. Apparently some players were getting upwards of 49 injections or something? Surely a player would maybe consult their club doctor who would then have told them his concerns as well about the program.

I believe the Doctor did write a letter to the club about it and Hird asked the Footy Manager, Corcoran " to put on your united nations cap on and settle the Doctor down".

It obviously worked as the injecting continued....but Hird knew nothing about the injections etc

 

[Pedro]

A question for our resident legal folks ... ( DaVe86 Reykjavik )

If they've announced a date, then surely they've come to a verdict amongst themselves?

And if they've come to a verdict, then can't they just tell us now? What's the holdup? Does the judge need to get his wig freshly dry cleaned for the occassion? Do they need to wait for a court room to become vacant?

Can't they just save us the drama and tweet the verdict or something???

You would have to assume that they would have come to a verdict. Maybe they need the next couple weeks to consider individual penalties. If its a not guilty, then just announce it now, like you say. They may also need the time to put down on paper formal reasons for their decision and penalties, both of which could be subject to appeal. Dotting I's and crossing T's so to speak.

 

[popin]

You would have to assume that they would have come to a verdict. Maybe they need the next couple weeks to consider individual penalties. If its a not guilty, then just announce it now, like you say. They may also need the time to put down on paper formal reasons for their decision and penalties, both of which could be subject to appeal. Dotting I's and crossing T's so to speak.

They should be banned from the 2015 first and second round draft as well
https://www.facebook.com/pages/BAN-...round-drafts-if-Guilty/411723955668163?ref=hl

 

[Bay Pie]

You would have to assume that they would have come to a verdict. They may also need the time to put down on paper formal reasons for their decision and penalties, both of which could be subject to appeal. Dotting I's and crossing T's so to speak.

This.

Any decision will be appealed either way it goes. ASADA or Essendon. As you said, this next 2 weeks will be spent ensuring they cover all bases to reduce any strength of an appeal, much like Judge Middleton did in the 1st court case.

 

[good4footy]

Ryan Crowley has tested positive to a banned match day substance.

 

[TradeDraft]

Ryan Crowley has tested positive to a banned match day substance.

So Freo been into them now