Player Watch Elliott Himmelberg - Contract extension to 2024

[Scorpus]

Well no, they don't. A few teams have already been caught out this year with a lack of KPP depth.

Which teams?

 

[Wazzy36]

Which teams?

Carlton are missing finals because of it.

 

[Scorpus]

Carlton are missing finals because of it.

They have heaps of KPP depth, they're just all injured

 

[Wazzy36]

They have heaps of KPP depth, they're just all injured

so not enough depth??

 

[Scorpus]

so not enough depth??

They have enough depth for a standard amount of injuries.

I mean they have more key position players than we have, should we be trading in a second Himmelberg type player in case 4-5 KPPs go down at once?

 

[kirky]

Two years is fine, money is the Q

He wouldn’t be costing us big $$$.

 

[Wazzy36]

They have enough depth for a standard amount of injuries.

I mean they have more key position players than we have, should we be trading in a second Himmelberg type player in case 4-5 KPPs go down at once?

No but it does mean that signing himmelberg as depth is good

 

[kirky]

They have heaps of KPP depth, they're just all injured

KPP?

They were all injured - Curnow, McKay and Weitering - at one point. Not sure of any others.

Most of their other injuries were not KPP for my recollection - there were and still are half back flankers and midfielders.

 

[Scorpus]

KPP?

They were all injured - Curnow, McKay and Weitering - at one point. Not sure of any others.

Most of their other injuries were not KPP for my recollection - there were and still are half back flankers and midfielders.

They had McDonald, Durdin, Weitering, Marchbank and McGovern all injured at one point

 

[kirky]

They had McDonald, Durdin, Weitering, Marchbank and McGovern all injured at one point

All but Weitering are barely worth a burnt crumpet.

 

[Plugger46]

I seriously think a change in numbers could bring him better fortunes...

34 rolling around half forward just doesn't look right

 

[dylan123]

Which teams?

Bulldogs for one.

I don't see us drafting a replacement who is ready to go after one season so the two year deal makes sense on that front.

 

[Dewy006]

Disagree, every side has a few of them and every year there are players available in the draft or trade as backup.

Good best 22 KPF/rucks are extremely valuable though

Highly unlikely a fringe tall from another side would come here on a one year deal, it would be 2 minimum, so essentially the same deal we just gave Berg. 2 years on likely low money is perfectly fine.

 

[ABAB]

Guessing the Freo interest gave him an extra year and he decided to stay. Need to go on the confidence course Fogarty and Thilthorpe are doing as he has shown he can play at the high level but is very consistent.

 

[dogs105]

For some bizarre reason we've given him a two year contract extension

Himmelberg re-signs with Crows

The key forward has played 38 games for the Club

www.afc.com.au

That's a bit too long.



About 2 years.

 

[Scorpus]

Highly unlikely a fringe tall from another side would come here on a one year deal, it would be 2 minimum, so essentially the same deal we just gave Berg. 2 years on likely low money is perfectly fine.

If you were going to bring in a player from another side you'd want them to be better, otherwise you wouldn't bother.

If a player better than Berg isn't available, sign Berg to a one year deal and assess again at the end of next year. The only thing the two year deal is doing is limiting our options

 

[WeeBlake]

It depends, but with a 1 year deal you could assess the options after every season. With 2 years we are locked into him even if a better player becomes available next year

Except that we could probably find a trade at the end of year 1 if we really needed to (again, mature decent kpf/rucks will usually find a home). The only problem would be if we are paying too much and can’t find a club who’d take on his salary.
Or I guess if he does an ACL or something.

 

[slice]

wtf is wrong with this club

 

[StonesThrow]

Potentially we wanted 1 but he was offered 2 somewhere else and this forced our hand?

Was the Freo talk genuine?

I've always thought he has the ability to make it. Just has to put it together.

I'm indifferent on this one as long as it didn't cost too much.

 

[maxlilly]

I seriously think a change in numbers could bring him better fortunes...

34 rolling around half forward just doesn't look right

What do you reckon, grab #13 when Tex retires ?

 

[maxlilly]

Out of Him, Frampton, Fish and Borlase, I think he is the best choice.
Now if he can only learn to catch the ball and get rid of those cement hands, he would be a handy player.
Is good depth and may still improve in the next couple of years

 

[WeeBlake]

wtf is wrong with this club

Plenty, but not this

 

[Jarman3]

If you were going to bring in a player from another side you'd want them to be better, otherwise you wouldn't bother.

If a player better than Berg isn't available, sign Berg to a one year deal and assess again at the end of next year. The only thing the two year deal is doing is limiting our options

I think we're thin enough on KPP options that we wouldn't be getting rid of him next year anyway. Walker potentially/probably retiring end of next year leaves basically just Thilthorpe, Fogarty and Gollant as our tall forward options (assuming Frampton and McAsey aren't still around then). That leaves Himmelberg as our only depth there. Even if we bring in another one or two via draft or trade and assume they're ready to go (and don't turn out to be duds), that just brings us up to what should be a minimum level of depth in that area. You wouldn't bring them in to replace Himmelberg, it would be in addition to.

If we offered him 1 year and somebody else offered him 2 then he'd go and we'd be shopping for a replacement who would probably need 2 years anyway and is unlikely to be much better. Or, even worse, we'd have to keep Frampton.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Now to blow your mind Spackler, I would not be surprised if we offered another contract to Big, Billy Frampton!

I agree actually!

There's a shortage of talls around the league. Frampton is unusual in that he plays more like a medium size player. However if he's considered only as back up for Doedee & Worrell (or at a stretch a back up for Butts/Murray against teams with a crappy tall forward set up) that's fine. One caveat: That he shouldn't be played ahead of any prospect. We've got enough young defenders coming through so he's not taking up a spot.

And that's before getting to the absolute key benefit - it might make us less likely to draft or recruit a medium size defender. Which by itself moves our club forward.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

If you were going to bring in a player from another side you'd want them to be better, otherwise you wouldn't bother.

If a player better than Berg isn't available, sign Berg to a one year deal and assess again at the end of next year. The only thing the two year deal is doing is limiting our options

I think this is a good signing as long as the wage is low

Remembering he’s not best 22 …why would you get someone better unless they were to replace Thilthorpe ( which won’t be happening ) or ROB

Could have chased Weideman , paid him more and for longer term , given up something to get him and he isn’t really any better …. I’d say he’s not as good

Himmelberg has actually had some reasonable AFL performances this year and he’s rucking v well in the sanfl and getting loads of football

We can now trade or or more of Frampton / Mcasey easier if we get decent offers as well