Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[FootyLad0]

lol waterman....

how many of you guys are old enough to remember geelong's boom forward recruits from west coast in brett spinks, mitcehll white.

The million dollar man Mitchell White….**** me we used to be a basket case

 

[Kobe Gryant]

I reckon it’s a garbage story by a very average journo (WoodenCock).

Give me Bailey Smith and a good Stanley replacement and I’ll be firmer than a WoodenCock.


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I expect that will be the case. Club seem committed to Smith, and I would guess that a ruckman of some sort will be joining him.

If there's anything in the Waterman talk, it's getting the foot in the door early for next year IMO (like we did with Smith last year)

 

[Hamingja]

I went to the WC board a few weeks ago to see what they were saying about Humphries and all of them wanted to trade Waterman for picks. That says it all.

I wouldn't go anywhere near him off half a season of good form in nearly 10 years.

We are not that desperate for a key forward. We can give Neale 12 months, then reassess, and hopefully then someone better is on the market if Neale doesn't cut it.

 

[CatRiot]

Could you imagine if we got Obrien and teamed him with Conway?

Has there ever been an all-ranga ruck combo at afl level?

Strawbs O'Dwyer vs Damian Bourke back in the day, and O'Dwyer took out Bourke's ribs in a game, broke them to bits.

Was Steven Handley a red head? He was around the same time

Handley was almost Albino... white hair.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Nash signing on for Hawthorn a bit of a blow. I expect that had we got him we would send Blitz back to KPD and ruck SDK going forward which solves a ruck issue while adding a much needed bigger body through the middle. You'd basically add three new positions to your b22 for the price of a contract

He would have been handy due to versatility but it isnt the end of the world. There will be decent FA options next year.

The Riley O'Brien chatter has certainly increased from contacts I've spoken to in the last few weeks.

If he's gettable, I'd say he fits the bill extremely well as a replacement for Stanley. 28 years of age - has a year to run on a contract at Adelaide. Ranked as "elite" for hitouts in the AFL, and hitouts to advantage. Not sure if he'd look at a move back to Victoria but he would be a great pick up. I'm not sure Conway has a full season of bang and crash in him for a few years yet.

A 3-4 year deal for O'Brien would be perfect - but probably wishful thinking. All I know is that Geelong have asked the question via his manager on a few occasions this year. If nothing else, it shows that we are at least focused on bringing in a decent ruck as insurance while Conway develops and gets his body right.

Look it makes sense because the crows might let him go age wise and hed give us 2 or 3 years of cheap decent coverage (id say 4 years is a stretch) and then retire when younger rucks come on. Hes been open about wanting to continue to be a dr after footy so its probably more about whether he wants to finish his studies in adel (he could always retire early now and do it) or metro melb or geelong. Whether he would consider geelong geographically i have no idea but it makes some sense.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If that is the case he would certainly make life easier for our midfielders.

Hes not traditionally the type of ruck scott likes...decent but not athletic.but what i do like about him is he doesnt get injured much. For a cheaper pick say something in the 30s or 40s he would give us good coverage.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

No chance we get Waterman IMO. His manager will just use us and others to force West Coast to cough up. They will milk them for eveything they have. This will be his last big contract. First and last given he has really only just got over injurues and got some runs on the board this year. He's the son of a club legen and WA local, hence the reason he's be unlikely to leave unless they really lowball him on his next deal..

The other factor is he's under contract at the Eagles next year. After the Tim Kelly deal, they will want the farm and then some.

Eagles will reward his form this year with a decent contract.

Also, I was quite surprised to see him listed as only 192cm.

His father doesnt get on as well with WCE as you think. So i could see him.leaving. but realistically manager is just using us to get a better deal at current club.

 

[Footy Smarts]

I'd have a good chuckle to see us recruit Reilly O'Brien

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Reilly O'brien

Age

29

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.4

4star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

5star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

14.4

3star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

24.8

5star

just for Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

to turn around and leave him in the VFL so he can still play SDK as the number one.

 

[D BRIDGE]

I'd have a good chuckle to see us recruit Reilly O'Brien just for Chris Scott to turn around and leave him in the VFL so he can still play SDK as the number one.

If we are planning on SDK in the ruck long-term then we do need ROB.

It'll be interesting to see them have a "ruck off" this Saturday.

I got ROB having 50+ taps.

Hopefully whoever rucks for us can get it done around the ground.

 

[foxdog50]

Hes not traditionally the type of ruck scott likes...decent but not athletic.but what i do like about him is he doesnt get injured much. For a cheaper pick say something in the 30s or 40s he would give us good coverage.

I honestly think he will cost more then a pick in the 30s... is contracted so they hold the cards..
Early 20s maybe and even at that ,I could say be dreaming. His still currently there no 1 ruckman

 

[MisterMarcus]

lol waterman....

how many of you guys are old enough to remember geelong's boom forward recruits from west coast in brett spinks, mitcehll white.

Ah yes, the late 90s/early 2000s spud frenzy....

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Might want to give trading with West Coast a wide berth for a few more years yet. They need to have time to forget the Kelly fleecing.

Or we might get asked for 3x R1, R2 and Humphries for Waterman lol.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I honestly think he will cost more then a pick in the 30s... is contracted so they hold the cards..
Early 20s maybe and even at that ,I could say be dreaming. His still currently there no 1 ruckman

Hes going to be 30 when hes ooc next year.
And hes only their no1 ruck because their other rucks like strachan are crap.
I wouldnt pay more than a 30s pick and i doubt other clubs would either.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I'd have a good chuckle to see us recruit Reilly O'Brien just for Chris Scott to turn around and leave him in the VFL so he can still play SDK as the number one.

Would still be better backup than what we have.

Would lol though.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Would still be better backup than what we have.

Would lol though.

In all seriousness given O'Brien was dropped this year for a genuine spud and the fact we know Chris Scott prefers mobile rucks I'd actually be pretty surprised if ROB would get a game for us. And you don't give up a pick in the 30s and a solid salary which he'd be on for a backup.

 

[cats_09]

In all seriousness given O'Brien was dropped this year for a genuine spud and the fact we know Chris Scott prefers mobile rucks I'd actually be pretty surprised if ROB would get a game for us. And you don't give up a pick in the 30s and a solid salary which he'd be on for a backup.

Wonder what impact having King as an assistant would be having on how we approach the ruck position going forward or if he could help influence alternative looks at how we can utilise a ruck?

 

[Lana]

In all seriousness given O'Brien was dropped this year for a genuine spud and the fact we know Chris Scott prefers mobile rucks I'd actually be pretty surprised if ROB would get a game for us. And you don't give up a pick in the 30s and a solid salary which he'd be on for a backup.

I think the problem that faces us next year is having a ruck division that can actually get through a full season intact.

Stanley is gone, Conway is extremely fragile, Blicavs is another year older, do we bite the bullet and have SDK put on a bunch of weight in the pre-season and hope that it doesn't cause any issues.

This is a bit moot if we're not going in for next year

 

[Cursed Cat]

The million dollar man Mitchell White….**** me we used to be a basket case

Dark memories ... yet he did finally play in the 2002 VFL flag, from memory.
He was really good at the Eagles in his prime, no question.

I was a little surprised to hear rumour of Jake Waterman this far North, but here we are.
As with most of these things there's probably little substance to the matter; if there is a kernel of truth though it represents an interesting insight into as to where the club may see gaps in the list post this season.

Waterman would be 27 going into 2025; he's played 100 games.

We'll get to see him in action August 23rd @ GMHBA stadium - tickets onsale now! *




* tickets may not be on sale now; I dunno

 

[And_ROOS]

Waterman has "Jade Rawlings

Jade Rawlings

Age

47

Ht

196cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

0.8

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

4.6

1star

K

3.8

2star

HB

0.8

1star

M

2.6

3star

T

0.4

3star

G

1.8

5star

" written all over him.

 

[Mr Meow]

Wow, it is almost like you are living in my brain.

Thank you so much.

 

[Hinkley29]

Hes not traditionally the type of ruck scott likes...decent but not athletic.but what i do like about him is he doesnt get injured much. For a cheaper pick say something in the 30s or 40s he would give us good coverage.

I agree with you there. As I often say: the most important ability is availability

 

[Hinkley29]

Might want to give trading with West Coast a wide berth for a few more years yet. They need to have time to forget the Kelly fleecing.

Or we might get asked for 3x R1, R2 and Humphries for Waterman lol.

That is not that far removed from what they are requesting on the WC board.

I saw a serious request of 13+33+humphries for waterman.

 

[Hinkley29]

Wonder what impact having King as an assistant would be having on how we approach the ruck position going forward or if he could help influence alternative looks at how we can utilise a ruck?

If this year is any indication, it seem that king’s views on rucks are just as non-conventional as Scott’s

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Dark memories ... yet he did finally play in the 2002 VFL flag, from memory.
He was really good at the Eagles in his prime, no question.

I was a little surprised to hear rumour of Jake Waterman this far North, but here we are.
As with most of these things there's probably little substance to the matter; if there is a kernel of truth though it represents an interesting insight into as to where the club may see gaps in the list post this season.

Waterman would be 27 going into 2025; he's played 100 games.

We'll get to see him in action August 23rd @ GMHBA stadium - tickets onsale now! *




* tickets may not be on sale now; I dunno

Yeah given the strength of our forward line and the relatively recent rebuild we did of it I think it makes sense they look for spraypaint rebuild options. Waterman as FA next year maybe but I assume it would be cash only on the table. We have a midfield to rebuild

 

[eaglevision]

Just a bit of context for the Waterman scenario. Jake’s a free agent next year and if he maintains his 3 goal a game output in an awful team he’ll almost certainly get a band 1 offer next year. I think most are realistic enough to see that’s likely to mean a pick between 2 and 4.

I presume we’ll make sure his contract is enough to make him a restricted FA so we can match any offer if it’s in the club’s best interests.

Jake’s obviously a father son and the family has a history with the club since its inception. I’d be very surprised if Jake was pushing a move, it’s more likely to come from the Eagles if they decide the best way forward is to gain draft capital by refusing to raise/extend his contract significantly.

So whilst a top 10 pick (or equivalent) seems like overs, given his FA status next year and the possible compensation, WCE would factor that in when deciding if they would accept a trade this year. Obviously there is a risk of injury or that his form drops off but we have enough tall forward depth to cover him if he left.

Given the value and difficultly of finding tall forwards I’d be surprised if he left, I suspect his manager is just getting to work but if a good offer for Jake and the Eagles came in then I’m sure all parties would look at it.