Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Firstly, the "No Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

42

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

" Rule is back

 

[TooOldTooSlowTooGood]

So we gift Gunston with a nothing trade to help Brisbane be gifted a free agency compo pick to help them facilitate the big Christmas present in Will Ashcroft?

Name our minimum terms for a trade, whatever the club decides that it as we clearly don’t all agree in here, or they can have him as a free agent. It’s still there choice.

 

[Iceman!]

So we gift Gunston with a nothing trade to help Brisbane be gifted a free agency compo pick to help them facilitate the big Christmas present in Will Ashcroft?

Name our minimum terms for a trade, whatever the club decides that it as we clearly don’t all agree in here, or they can have him as a free agent. It’s still there choice.

So they can just as easily turn around and say even if we take him as a free agent you will lose him for literally nothing.

Whatever token pick they give us is technically more than we would get if he were to leave as a free agent. It just isn’t going to net us anything significant

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Absolutely. He can play. Not suggesting he'll be a star, but would be solid mid depth for us.

I’ve seen him win centre clearances.

Almost unheard of at Hawthorn. Get him in.

 

[Tony3163]

So we gift Gunston with a nothing trade to help Brisbane be gifted a free agency compo pick to help them facilitate the big Christmas present in Will Ashcroft?

Name our minimum terms for a trade, whatever the club decides that it as we clearly don’t all agree in here, or they can have him as a free agent. It’s still there choice.

Are you new to this thread?

 

[TooOldTooSlowTooGood]

So they can just as easily turn around and say even if we take him as a free agent you will lose him for literally nothing.

Whatever token pick they give us is technically more than we would get if he were to leave as a free agent. It just isn’t going to net us anything significant

You are asking Brisbane the question if a second round pick this year (compo) is worth more to then than next year.

If you are competing for a flag you should pay overs not under. We always did.

 

[hawkmang]

No to taking on Geelongs rejects who have been in the system for several years now. Too inconsistent and not worth a list spot.

Not the same comparison obviously but Josh Kennedy was too inconsistent to get a spot on our list once upon a time

 

[Ned Ryerson]

So we gift Gunston with a nothing trade to help Brisbane be gifted a free agency compo pick to help them facilitate the big Christmas present in Will Ashcroft?

Name our minimum terms for a trade, whatever the club decides that it as we clearly don’t all agree in here, or they can have him as a free agent. It’s still there choice.

Minimum terms.

Two first rounders.
Free tickets to all our players to the opening ceremony of the Brisbane Olympics.
Free tickets, for life, for any Hawthorn player to ride the Ferris wheel in Southbank.
The 2001 premiership cup.
Leigh Matthews has to wear a Hawthorn tie to all directors meetings while on the Brisbane board.
A lifetime ban from the Brisbane Lions academy on any child with the surname Hodge.
Birchall back to us as a water carrier.
However many Bertie Beetle showbags were left over from the Ekka.

Let's do this!!!!

 

[Iceman!]

You are asking Brisbane the question if a second round pick this year (compo) is worth more to then than next year.

If you are competing for a flag you should pay overs not under. We always did.

Okay are you willing to stand in the way of a club legend getting where he wants over this when they say sorry but Dunkley and Ashcroft are a bigger priority for us?

 

[Noel Gallagher]

Not the same comparison obviously but Josh Kennedy was too inconsistent to get a spot on our list once upon a time

Poor comparison. Everyone at hawthorn knew Kennedy could play but had a long list of guns in front of him. We offered him a one year contract extension, but Sydney offered him 3 and more opportunity. We need to build a strong midfield to compete with the best, Narkle is just wasting our time ..

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Poor comparison. Everyone at hawthorn knew Kennedy could play but had a long list of guns in front of him. We offered him a one year contract extension, but Sydney offered him 3 and more opportunity. We need to build a strong midfield to compete with the best, Narkle is just wasting our time ..

Kennedy himself has stated he was overweight and not putting in at the Hawks and was told he had to displace Sewell in the side. You're right that it wasn't about consistency - more desire and work rate, things that Sewell never lacked.

 

[TooOldTooSlowTooGood]

Minimum terms.

Two first rounders.
Free tickets to all our players to the opening ceremony of the Brisbane Olympics.
Free tickets, for life, for any Hawthorn player to ride the Ferris wheel in Southbank.
The 2001 premiership cup.
Leigh Matthews has to wear a Hawthorn tie to all directors meetings while on the Brisbane board.
A lifetime ban from the Brisbane Lions academy on any child with the surname Hodge.
Birchall back to us as a water carrier.
However many Bertie Beetle showbags were left over from the Ekka.

Let's do this!!!!

Pick 76?

Okay are you willing to stand in the way of a club legend getting where he wants over this when they say sorry but Dunkley and Ashcroft are a bigger priority for us?

Do I feel good about the way Sam Mitchell and Jordan Lewis played out? It’s a tough one. Are we now happy we the the club rolling over and always taking the raw end of the deals like post 3peat era? I think the Brian Lake trade is one to look at and compare with a club looking to top up and get that elusive flag.

They need that compo pick this year. Helping another club get Ashcroft and Dunkley..

Geez what some of us would give up to get our hands on Ashcroft, they should be paying through the nose for what they will end up with this year!

 

[butlers hawks]

Pick 76?


Do I feel good about the way Sam Mitchell and Jordan Lewis played out? It’s a tough one. Are we now happy we the the club rolling over and always taking the raw end of the deals like post 3peat era? I think the Brian Lake trade is one to look at and compare with a club looking to top up and get that elusive flag.

They need that compo pick this year. Helping another club get Ashcroft and Dunkley..

Geez what some of us would give up to get our hands on Ashcroft, they should be paying through the nose for what they will end up with this year!

Lake was contracted though, Gunston wont be which is the difference. While I agree they wont be wanting the McStay compo to be watered down or washed away completely, it still doesnt mean they will be giving Hawks anything of note here. It at best will be just to tick the box to get their compo and move on.

Hawthorn did well in the Smith compensation but as spoken about here over and over Amon coming in hurts it and therefore maybe we look at it as Gunston for Amon instead of hey we are getting Amon free but we should get something for Gunston

 

[MrPremiership]

I can't wait for the Gunston decision, just so we can stop posting about potential trades and compo

Done to death

 

[VandoHawk]

(Free Agent) Karl Amon

10

Karl Amon

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

294.5

4star

D

21.0

5star

K

15.0

5star

HB

6.0

3star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

146.8

3star

Gunston --> (Brisbane) 2023 Third Round Selection
Tom Mitchell + Pick 24 --> (Collingwood) Pick 16 + Caleb Poulter
2023 Third Round Selection [via Hawthorn] + 2023 Fourth Round Selection --> (Fremantle) Lloyd Meek + 2023 Fourth Round Selection

Bring in Amon, Meek, Poulter.
Take 6, 16 and 49 to the draft.
Pick up Fergus Greene

26

Fergus Greene

Age

27

Ht

187cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.8

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.8

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.0

4star

as a rookie for cheap forward depth.
Move some of our talented half-backs to the midfield to cover the loss of Tom.

 

[Hawk the Talk]

This is the best/worst trade scenario I have ever seen! Touch your toes Collingwood

 

[rei154]

This is the best/worst trade scenario I have ever seen! Touch your toes Collingwood

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Sign me up!

 

[SammyC]

I can't see De Goey leaving - he is a free agent right?

Pies will want to keep him - if they are getting mcstay as a free agent, they won't get much or anything in compensation for de goey.

So pies would want a trade but suitors like st kilda won't entertain a trade when they can get him as a free agent?

 

[HawksILove]

This is the best/worst trade scenario I have ever seen! Touch your toes Collingwood

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I take that.
We're do I sign

 

[A1fromDay1]

This is the best/worst trade scenario I have ever seen! Touch your toes Collingwood

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How do these guys have jobs at the AFL again???

 

[TylerDurden]

This is the best/worst trade scenario I have ever seen! Touch your toes Collingwood

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Jenkins. What a Muppet.

 

[BigLittleHawk]

I'm resigned to the belief that we'll get nothing, or next to nothing, for Gunston.
Also, I'm confident that we'll get nothing better than pick 40 or so for T. Mitchell.
I think I'm being realistic... that way I don't get disappointed when it actually happens.

 

[PenAndPaper]

Jenkins. What a Muppet.

The fact he is currently a coach at Geelong while happily throwing these kinds of things out is a bit troubling to me. Really shouldn't be doing these while employed at a club.

 

[Big Hotdog]

This is the best/worst trade scenario I have ever seen! Touch your toes Collingwood

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That is why JJ is payed the big bucks...best in the buisness.

 

[Millsie69]

I wonder what other salary dumps the suns are interested in doing. If they do wanna clear $2 million from the Bowes is not gonna cut it.

Other names linked to the exit door are Burgess, Corbett and Fiorini.

 

[Millsie69]

That is why JJ is payed the big bucks...best in the buisness.

Still better than Matt Rendell lol