Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

[dlanod]

This is going to be a very touchy subject.

There will be a very broad range of opinions about the correct way to handle this.

I'll remind everyone to post respectfully at this time - sniping at each other is not going to help.

Any continued pointless back and forth will get a day or more to cool off. If you want to avoid this fate, let it go.

 

[Macca225]

 

[Ceebee]

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Yes I noticed that , Fages would have appreciated it .

 

[wantok]

Yes I noticed that , Fages would have appreciated it .

Prior to this he was in a friendly discussion with Liam Henry and then Charlie came over after Hill. A picture is worth a thousand words.

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[T Rick]

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Unbelievably powerful sentiment and endorsement of Fages here by Indigenous boys across the AFL...go figure!

 

[Maboo]

Ex-Hawks set to take racism complaint to Federal Court

Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan aren't expected to be named when First Nations players lodge documents in the Federal Court on Friday

www.afl.com.au

Looks like it’s going to the federal court, interesting that Fagan and Clarkson most likely won’t be named and could only be called as witnesses. Does this mean that there was no real case against them in the first place?

 

[T Rick]

Ex-Hawks set to take racism complaint to Federal Court

Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan aren't expected to be named when First Nations players lodge documents in the Federal Court on Friday

www.afl.com.au

Looks like it’s going to the federal court, interesting that Fagan and Clarkson most likely won’t be named and could only be called as witnesses. Does this mean that there was no real case against them in the first place?

A fascinating development. I am not versed in the consequences of Fages and Clarko not being named but by default it would appear that means that legally they have no case to answer and that the complainants are going to go for the Hawthorn FC for an unsafe workplace...at the end of the day, Hawthorn and the AFL will be the honeypot for a payout.

 

[McIvor]

A fascinating development. I am not versed in the consequences of Fages and Clarko not being named but by default it would appear that means that legally they have no case to answer and that the complainants are going to go for the Hawthorn FC for an unsafe workplace...at the end of the day, Hawthorn and the AFL will be the honeypot for a payout.

In any litigation, sadly the plaintiff will always go after the party with the deepest pockets or the party they perceive as most willing to settle also with deep pockets. Hopefully for Fages by my untrained eye when he genuinely seems universally loved by indigenous players league wide, that won’t be him and hopefully he is formally exonerated if that is in the fact the right word.

 

[Maboo]

A fascinating development. I am not versed in the consequences of Fages and Clarko not being named but by default it would appear that means that legally they have no case to answer and that the complainants are going to go for the Hawthorn FC for an unsafe workplace...at the end of the day, Hawthorn and the AFL will be the honeypot for a payout.

Yeah I am also unsure but early on after the Jackson article, it seemed like it was all about Fages, Clarkson and Burt. If the ex players were so adamant, why would they not be named now and will the coaches now look at legal action? Many questions and few answers.

 

[Elixuh]

Yeah I am also unsure but early on after the Jackson article, it seemed like it was all about Fages, Clarkson and Burt. If the ex players were so adamant, why would they not be named now and will the coaches now look at legal action? Many questions and few answers.

Closest nexus + best prospects of receiving an appropriate settlement is the employer.

 

[Maboo]

Closest nexus + best prospects of receiving an appropriate settlement is the employer.

Totally understand that argument but if they were so specific in their accusations then you would think the coaches would at least be on the ticket. It seems like for all the damage that has been done it looks like the accusations wouldn’t stand up in court.

 

[western royboy]

This will be settled out of court

 

[Pride of lions]

Fagan and Clarkson have both been quoted as saying that they are looking forward to appearing in court to put their side of the story. Seems like the players don’t want to have them there as it might work against them.

 

[BangyBangy]

Maybe I'm just old & cynical, but I thought it was nothing but a cash grab from the get go. Haven't seen anything yet to change my mind.

 

[Perrip]

The Statement of Claim by Ex-Hawks players has been uploaded to the Federal Court website. Nothing new about Fages.

There's a number of serious allegations against the other Hawks staff though. One of the more mundane and surreal ones is that Clarko showed up, unannounced, to a meeting with several Hawks players who were planning to boycott the next game with a guitar in hand to sing a song asking them not to boycott.

 

[Sherrinator]

The Statement of Claim by Ex-Hawks players has been uploaded to the Federal Court website. Nothing new about Fages.

There's a number of serious allegations against the other Hawks staff though. One of the more mundane and surreal ones is that Clarko showed up, unannounced, to a meeting with several Hawks players who were planning to boycott the next game with a guitar in hand to sing a song asking them not to boycott.

I heard he flew a plane over training one day and released trails saying “please don’t boycott”

 

[Elixuh]

https://fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/120048/2024-07-26_Statement-of-Claim.pdf

 

[Dalions]

https://fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/120048/2024-07-26_Statement-of-Claim.pdf

That’s a lot of reading.

 

[Elixuh]

That’s a lot of reading.

For those who don't wish to read it, this is the extent of Fagan's alleged involvement in the complaint.

 

[Nunez]

For those who don't wish to read it, this is the extent of Fagan's involvement in the complaint.

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As if this really happened.

 

[Dalions]

For those who don't wish to read it, this is the extent of Fagan's involvement in the complaint.

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Ahh, the ole head nod.‍

 

[T Rick]

So Fages nodded his head in a meeting...FFS

 

[M Malice]

 

[Dalions]

For those who don't wish to read it, this is the extent of Fagan's alleged involvement in the complaint.

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If Fages doesn’t sue the ABC for naming him in the initial article, I would be surprised.

 

[M Malice]

So Fages nodded his head in a meeting...FFS

Didn't you know nods can be racist enough to potentially take all the way to the High Court of Australia.

 

[McIvor]

As if this really happened.

Amd as if is anyone has such recollection in that sort of detail many many years later. Farcical and feel so sorry for Fages that hes even been caught up in this mess and had his good name tarnished.