![](https://images.bigfootymedia.com/icons/mobile-bullets/collingwood.png)
- Apr 2, 2013
- 11,620
- 17,506
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
Mitchell is a serious coach. They know what they're doing
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
LIVE: GWS Giants v Brisbane Lions - 7:30PM Sat
Squiggle tips Lions at 65% chance -- What's your tip? -- Team line-ups »
AFLW 2024 - Round 3 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
No you can't, we tried to bring in multiple big FA's and failed. We bought in Scully, Patton, Hartley Brooksby, Minchington and played those duds over youth. Lewis and Moore we dominating the VFL and couldn't crack the senior team.
No coach is getting that group to a flag.You have a very, very shit coach
No coach is getting that group to a flag.
Outstanding spine, but no runners or ball users around them.
I don't think they're soft - they've got the worst group of runners and flankers in the league. So they have to play a tight grind, because if the ball gets into space it's good night.It's incredible how soft they are when they have a leader like Cripps.
Really feel for the bloke. That man has bled for his jumper like few have ever. He deserves a flag and sadly will likely never get one as a Blue.
Even before the injuries the Carlton players were out of gas, Hawthorn just sliced them into pieces with run.I don't think they're soft - they've got the worst group of runners and flankers in the league. So they have to play a tight grind, because if the ball gets into space it's good night.
No it was aspiring to play finals. And remains a real possibility with 2 games to go.I mean, finals was well and truly on the cards for Hawthorn according to one fanatical Hawthorn poster
Talking about making no sense.
I thought the content was straight forward, I'll try my best to make as simple as possible if that post was too confusing for you.
When the brown and yellow's rebuild supposedly started is of no interest to me hence why I don't think I've posted this thread in years, if ever.
But seeing so many brown and yellow fans up and about in a similar fashion as to when they were a contender, piqued my interest hence why I dropped by this thread.
In response to the poster's question of why I'm in this thread, it's because like I said I've recently noticed many brown and yellow fans on BF running their mouths about other teams after being relatively quite for several years and more or less carrying on like the rebuild/tanking period is basically over. So I decided to to chime in by saying that it's about got damn time.
After being and irrelevant losing team for so long, it's no big achievement that the brown and yellow is finally coming good. Hawthorn should have accumulated enough talent via the draft or trades in those years at the bottom to become a decent team much much sooner given their time spent at the bottom.
Hope that is clear enough for you and anybody else struggling to understand.
Can collected receipts be handed back?Uh oh, we're into receipt collecting territory already.
Yeah nah.Just take the L, dude.
They just play too many big bodied mids - it's half their team - they're all either great in Cripps's case or good solid players, but it's just so unbalanced and means it's all contests and down the line to move the ball, as none of them are top kicks either.Even before the injuries the Carlton players were out of gas, Hawthorn just sliced them into pieces with run.
Care to make a friendly wager?
Which team out of Hawthorn and North wins a final first?
If North wins a final first, you agree to have Chief suspend/restrict your BF account for a period (two weeks? 1 month?)
If Hawks win a final first, I'll do the same in reverse.
I have.![]()
I haven't seen a takedown so comprehensive since Hamish McLachlan opened a wikipedia account and BigFooty found out...
Embarrasing for SYL. Hard to come back from that.
Take the L, dude.
I'd worry about making finals and then winning one before I started thinking that far ahead.
yep, actively said im envious of how well Hawks are going. Not going to stick my head in the sandHas Yoda_ surfaced yet?
Completely missed the point well done. Teams work out what teams did well over preseason making it harder to replicate the following year and see if they can profit from similar tactics. When the season starts they all see who's doing what and see what's working best and all focus on that alongside working on Matchday tactics ECT. Usually it's a particular team or 2 being focused on and this is evident throughout the years for example when flooding started to use these tactics. It's not like all the clubs come together and decide to use those tactics universally. Someone came up with the idea the club utilised it and the rest of the clubs followed suite and did it their way while trying to figure out how to defeat it. Right now I don't think teams know what works best on how to stop hawks at their best with their current system otherwise youd see teams systematically set up the same way most weeks to counteract what they are good at. That time will come and that's when you will see how great this hawks list is and what they may need to improve on. I feel the hawks fans here are just more upset thinking I'm telling them their going to be found out(which might happen but I don't think I've said that once) rather than trying to consider what's being said.This is so dumb
Acting like game strategy happens at the start of the season and can’t change
Pies are old and injured, no strategy needed there
Not even relevant in this thread
Agree that 2019 was the first moves towards the rebuild, but it wasn’t til a year later that the club really decided the previous list management strategy wasn’t working. Club thought we were a genuine chance having a really good year in 2020.Not arguing when it became in full swing, talking about when it started. Unless you want a lot more angst than you need, then you don't want to be dumping all your old blokes at the start of the rebuild and suddenly playing all kids. I'm arguing the transition from "we are not far off, let's try to trade into a another flag" to "ok, we're not going to do it with this core group, let's start again with a new batch of kids" started in 2019. I'm not saying we went from an aging has-been list to a list of exciting young players in 2019-2020, but you can see the change of direction had occurred, and then accelerated from there (mostly off the back on getting and actually using our early picks over the period from 2019-2023). I agree that the rebuild was much more evident by 2021, but I still think you can trace back the beginning to 2019, which started the string of "keep and use our first founder". The next phase will be when we start to flip back to thinking about trading out first rounders to fill holes, which might be as soon as this season.
More, Jiath and Day all debuted under Clarko before 2021, as did Mitchell Lewis, Scrimshaw , Nash and Morrison. Clarko wasn't the type to throw games at players that were not ready, and IMO he kept giving games to some old favourites longer than he should have, but I think the club had definitely moved on from the 'top up again' plan. Will Day in particular would likely have played a lot more games under Clarko if it wasn't for injury.
This is how to do it. It takes a lot to acknowledge when we get things wrong.yep, actively said im envious of how well Hawks are going. Not going to stick my head in the sand
Popped my hand up and said I got it wrong after the facts of recent months.
Imagine being so cocky that you bet your account that a side won’t win 10 games, and then after you’ve had to go through with it, you also have to watch the team that ended your account end your clubs season.Complete bottom out or not, just know your predictions will be way closer than “14 wins and finals” ever was.
Wait he actually lost his account over this? Bloody hilarious.Imagine being so cocky that you bet your account that a side won’t win 10 games, and then after you’ve had to go through with it, you also have to watch the team that ended your account end your clubs season.
Yes, spent a large portion dunking on my posts that I made over summer where I stated the players and club would be aiming to win between 10-14 games for the season.Wait he actually lost his account over this? Bloody hilarious.
Thank goodness Walshy had some sense and didn't take the bet before the weekend.