Let's talk Ports! Part 3

[Harlott]

How are these SANFL players from 30 years ago able to repeatedly one grab contested marks easily, late in the game, at night; when our pRoFfEsSiOnAl modern AFL players handle it like it's a piece of soap?

Carter on the run is able to hit Chalmers perfectly, running towards our end with a 35-40m pass without Chalmers breaking stride. I forgot that kind of thing happened.

 

[VineValerian]

How are these SANFL players from 30 years ago able to repeatedly one grab contested marks easily, late in the game, at night; when our pRoFfEsSiOnAl modern AFL players handle it like it's a piece of soap?

Skill is not important today.
Its aerobic capacity, forward pressure acts, systems and patterns of play.

 

[Del165198]

Carter on the run is able to hit Chalmers perfectly, running towards our end with a 35-40m pass without Chalmers breaking stride. I forgot that kind of thing happened.

That grab from Hodges was immense. So solid

 

[VineValerian]

Watch a replay of the 1977 GF between Port and the Bays.

Leg speed of the players, the speed of movement of the ball across the lines, one grab skills, fierce body contact, elite (often two sided) disposal.

 

[bomberclifford]

Because as the leagues gone more professional even though the number of hours these players put in to work I maintain that fitness work and time put into it has increased massively but time on skills, even with the extra workload that players put in, Is way less.

Only at some clubs under some coaches. See below for an excerpt from Adem Yze's wiki.

 

[bomberclifford]

Carter on the run is able to hit Chalmers perfectly, running towards our end with a 35-40m pass without Chalmers breaking stride. I forgot that kind of thing happened.

Chalmers never looked like dropping it was even a possibility. Actually turned his head before he took the ball. Incredible skill.

 

[Steve Dore]

Maybe start playing like it then Tom.

 

[PowerLil]

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Maybe start playing like it then Tom.

It's that pesky outside noise that's a distraction.

 

[bomberclifford]

At this stage their ‘belief’ is starting to look like mental illness.

 

[Willsy10]

No histrionics or grandstanding. No finger raised as in i'm #1. Minimal BS in other words. No wonder us Boomers shake our heads

at the self absorbed FIGJAM modern world of me me me. Same for cricket in those days too when sending off batsmen was unheard of.

Sounds boring. I love a good goal celebration or wicket celebration, even the odd send off.


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[Janus]

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Maybe start playing like it then Tom.

Starts off like:



Ends up like:

 

[Enviable Tradition]

The problem is that they believe they can but they dont believe they will.

 

[GremioPower]

No histrionics or grandstanding. No finger raised as in i'm #1. Minimal BS in other words. No wonder us Boomers shake our heads

at the self absorbed FIGJAM modern world of me me me. Same for cricket in those days too when sending off batsmen was unheard of.

Such a different culture from my own. For us, it’s the opposite.

 

[Andre]

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Maybe start playing like it then Tom.

Of course. Tom is on the Hinkley bandwagon. Get a new coach and he's a reasonable chance of being moved on. Better the security blanket of 'low expectations' Ken. Hopefully the new coach is looking at all the players going over the top backing Ken and having his marker handy to put a line through them.

 

[tribey]

I reckon it's probably to do with the large amount of players on the oval.

36 players, 3 officials and 4 boundary umpires on the arena at any given time really is bonkers.

 

[Grave Danger]

I wonder who they were blaming then...

 

[Ford Fairlane]

US sports presenter and new Port supporter Regina Ham was excited to receive her Port merch

 

[Capital Power]

US sports presenter and new Port supporter Regina Ham was excited to receive her Port merch

So we have to find something shiny to distract her until that happens? Could be a while...

 

[backtozero]

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Maybe start playing like it then Tom.

They've been saying this kind of thing since 20 farkin 15. Just shut up and do it.

 

[Hammer#8]

Just looking at home crowds vs Sydney at AO. There's been a drastic 40% dropoff since 2014 and even pre COVID

2014 - 50087
2015 - 49765
2019 - 29568
2020 - 11801*
2021 - 29631

How much does the Hinkley factor impact this? Furthermore htf does the club not see the Hinkley disillusionment setting in amongst the supporter base?
This week's crowd should be interesting.

 

[FishingRick04]

Just looking at home crowds vs Sydney at AO. There's been a drastic 40% dropoff since 2014 and even pre COVID

2014 - 50087
2015 - 49765
2019 - 29568
2020 - 11801*
2021 - 29631

How much does the Hinkley factor impact this? Furthermore htf does the club not see the Hinkley disillusionment setting in amongst the supporter base?
This week's crowd should be interesting.

One club correlation doesn’t help assess. When was the 19 and 21 time slots? What about other teams?

 

[Hammer#8]

One club correlation doesn’t help assess. When was the 19 and 21 time slots? What about other teams?

I mainly looked at it in the lead up to this week's game. Our games against the Swans have never really been built up or marketed, nor have we formed a rivalry against them as such in recent years.

That 2014/2015 period blew the lid on current and future attendance numbers, the momentum of the AO move mixed with high quality football added to the surge in attendance.

1. 52,505, Port Adelaide v Carlton – R22, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval
2. 52,233, Port Adelaide v Hawthorn – R10, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval
3. 50,618, Port Adelaide v Richmond – EF, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval
4. 50,552, Adelaide v Port Adelaide – R15, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval
5. 50,087, Port Adelaide v Sydney - R20, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval
6. 46,786, Port Adelaide v Essendon - R16, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval

Most recent crowds against these same teams
1. 13,943, Port Adelaide v Carlton – R22, 2021 @ Adelaide Oval
2. 30,267, Port Adelaide v Hawthorn - R2, 2022 @ Adelaide Oval
3. 33,742, Port Adelaide v Richmond - R4, 2021 @ Adelaide Oval
4. 39,190, Adelaide v Port Adelaide - R3, 2022 @ Adelaide Oval
5. 29,631, Port Adelaide v Sydney - R15, 2021 @ Adelaide Oval
6. 25,877, Port Adelaide v Essendon - R11, 2022 @ Adelaide Oval

According to our Wikipedia page, our average home crowd this year is the lowest it's been since 2013.

Our crowd attendance doesn't really track to the same rate as average league attendances do. We're somewhat of an outlier, and its unusual given we've been moderately successful in the last 2 years. It deserves more media attention quite frankly.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Crowds are down leaguewide.

Doesn't help that some poor schmuck who thinks to himself "might take the wife and kids to the footy this weekend" is probably staring down the barrel of $200+ in tickets and food and other associated expenses.

And that's probably to sit at the top of the grandstand to watch a Ken Hinkley coached side.

Who would bother?

 

[FishingRick04]

I mainly looked at it in the lead up to this week's game. Our games against the Swans have never really been built up or marketed, nor have we formed a rivalry against them as such in recent years.

That 2014/2015 period blew the lid on current and future attendance numbers, the momentum of the AO move mixed with high quality football added to the surge in attendance.

1. 52,505, Port Adelaide v Carlton – R22, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval
2. 52,233, Port Adelaide v Hawthorn – R10, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval
3. 50,618, Port Adelaide v Richmond – EF, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval
4. 50,552, Adelaide v Port Adelaide – R15, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval
5. 50,087, Port Adelaide v Sydney - R20, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval
6. 46,786, Port Adelaide v Essendon - R16, 2014 @ Adelaide Oval

Most recent crowds against these same teams
1. 13,943, Port Adelaide v Carlton – R22, 2021 @ Adelaide Oval
2. 30,267, Port Adelaide v Hawthorn - R2, 2022 @ Adelaide Oval
3. 33,742, Port Adelaide v Richmond - R4, 2021 @ Adelaide Oval
4. 39,190, Adelaide v Port Adelaide - R3, 2022 @ Adelaide Oval
5. 29,631, Port Adelaide v Sydney - R15, 2021 @ Adelaide Oval
6. 25,877, Port Adelaide v Essendon - R11, 2022 @ Adelaide Oval

According to our Wikipedia page, our average home crowd this year is the lowest it's been since 2013.

Our crowd attendance doesn't really track to the same rate as average league attendances do. We're somewhat of an outlier, and its unusual given we've been moderately successful in the last 2 years. It deserves more media attention quite frankly.

Thanks for the reply, appreciate the detail. 2018 and 2019 are probably real crowd reflection I’d suggest.

We have this weird anomaly now of Covid, peoples behaviours have changed. Some no longer want to go in
When it’s there on the TV, pub or mates.

Then add in the Hinkley factor.

 

[FishingRick04]

What would be so Port is rehiring Mark Williams.