Let's talk Ports! Part 3

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We should never have dumped that partnership with Penrith Panthers when we both were sponsoed by OAK in 2016-17.

They win tonight against Cronulla and they will go to their 5th GF in a row and going for their 4th title in a row.

They could have taught us a thing or two about winning.

I rather we learnt things from them, rather than supposedly our learnings after another critical loss.
 
We should never have dumped that partnership with Penrith Panthers when we both were sponsoed by OAK in 2016-17.

They win tonight against Cronulla and they will go to their 5th GF in a row and going for their 4th title in a row.

They could have taught us a thing or two about winning.

I rather we learnt things from them, rather than supposedly our learnings after another critical loss.

We are incapable of learning, unfortunately.
 
We should never have dumped that partnership with Penrith Panthers when we both were sponsoed by OAK in 2016-17.

They win tonight against Cronulla and they will go to their 5th GF in a row and going for their 4th title in a row.

They could have taught us a thing or two about winning.

I rather we learnt things from them, rather than supposedly our learnings after another critical loss.
Did we dump them or did they dump us? 🤔
 

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Did we dump them or did they dump us? 🤔
Cant remember for sure but I think it was us, as we did stuff with South Sydney before covid hit.
 
Was there a common link there with the Oak sponsorship or was that just a coincidence?
We lost Oak and that partnership.



 
We should never have dumped that partnership with Penrith Panthers when we both were sponsoed by OAK in 2016-17.

They win tonight against Cronulla and they will go to their 5th GF in a row and going for their 4th title in a row.

They could have taught us a thing or two about winning.

I rather we learnt things from them, rather than supposedly our learnings after another critical loss.

• Beat the Western Bulldogs in Ken’s very first (unofficial) game — they flagged up 4 years later

• Beat Melbourne in Ken’s first official game — they flagged up 8 years later

• Beat Collingwood in Ken’s first final — they flagged up 9 years later

• Beat Richmond in Ken’s first home final — they flagged up 3 years later

• Beat Brisbane in Ken’s first win by triple figures — they flagged up 10 years later

Everything Port pioneers turns to gold (for others).

After Ken’s antics with throwing tea over his shoulder China will probably nab Taiwan without a shot being fired.
 
“Koch Out” - “Sack Hinkley” - “Koch Out” - “Sack Hinkley” - “Koch Out” - “Sack Hinkley” - “Koch Out” - “Sack Hinkley” - “Koch Out” - “Sack Hinkley” - “Koch Out” - “Sack Hinkley”…

 

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Premier Tonkin, there's a footnote in history.

No worries about keeping Halbert away from the Cup, it avoided him at all costs. :D
 
Posting this also here, because it’s a better thread for this conversation.

It was the tail end of Fos Williams coaching career that won premierships in 1951, 1954-59 (Geof Motley in 59), 1962-3, 1965 then the rise of Sturt 1966-70 and North's brief ascension 1971-2.

Geof Motley had a brief run 1959-61, but after winning the flag in 1959, minor premiership in 1960-61 but exiting finals in straight sets, Bob McLean removed him as coach and brought Fos back.,

John Cahill took over in 1974, won the flag in 1977, then away we went again.



So, the drought had Fos from 1966 to 1973 (8 years), then Jack from 1974 to 1976 (3 years).

I know we finished the Minor Round 6 times in the top-2 (1 Minor Premiership) and lost 5 GF. Still, those 8 flagless years must have taken a toll on Fos.

The 1970 season was probably the most disappointing of all. We finished first, but missed the GF. We had missed Finals altogether in 1969. I imagine people weren’t exactly happy-clapping after we lost the PF to Glenelg.

However, Fos went on for three more seasons, losing 2 more GFs. Only in 1973 (1st season with a Final-5 system), when we finished 4th and lost the EF to Norwood, that Fos left.

What was going on then, specially after 1969/70? It’s hard to argue that Fos didn’t know how to win, but were there discussions that he might had been too old by then? Was it considered sacrilegious proposing a coaching change?
 
Posting this also here, because it’s a better thread for this conversation.





So, the drought had Fos from 1966 to 1973 (8 years), then Jack from 1974 to 1976 (3 years).

I know we finished the Minor Round 6 times in the top-2 (1 Minor Premiership) and lost 5 GF. Still, those 8 flagless years must have taken a toll on Fos.

The 1970 season was probably the most disappointing of all. We finished first, but missed the GF. We had missed Finals altogether in 1969. I imagine people weren’t exactly happy-clapping after we lost the PF to Glenelg.

However, Fos went on for three more seasons, losing 2 more GFs. Only in 1973 (1st season with a Final-5 system), when we finished 4th and lost the EF to Norwood, that Fos left.

What was going on then, specially after 1969/70? It’s hard to argue that Fos didn’t know how to win, but were there discussions that he might had been too old by then? Was it considered sacrilegious proposing a coaching change?

Football had started changing to using handball as an attacking weapon from the mid-60s and 100 handballs in a match started to be the benchmark.

Never mind the Victorian bullshit, it was Jack Oatey who brought the change about. Barassi just copied it in the 1970 VFL grand final.

Fos was a mark kick type coach. Chicken Hayes used to tell the story of how Port had 3 handballs in a grand final once (maybe 1967) and Fos was after him all summer because he had 2 of them.

Jack Cahill adopted the new skills-based style and regenerated Port as still physically fierce but also skilled in play on football.
 
Football had started changing to using handball as an attacking weapon from the mid-60s and 100 handballs in a match started to be the benchmark.

Never mind the Victorian bullshit, it was Jack Oatey who brought the change about. Barassi just copied it in the 1970 VFL grand final.

Fos was a mark kick type coach. Chicken Hayes used to tell the story of how Port had 3 handballs in a grand final once (maybe 1967) and Fos was after him all summer because he had 2 of them.

Jack Cahill adopted the new skills-based style and regenerated Port as still physically fierce but also skilled in play on football.

Yet, apparently we were very patient.
 
Ahhhh TPFP - I spend half my time on big footy, trying to work out if unfamiliar user names on here had an earlier incarnation on TPFP.

Was a good site in some ways, but because it was privately set up, the moderating wasn't what a lot of people desired.
 
Ahhhh TPFP - I spend half my time on big footy, trying to work out if unfamiliar user names on here had an earlier incarnation on TPFP.

Was a good site in some ways, but because it was privately set up, the moderating wasn't what a lot of people desired.

I was booted at least 4 times and I never knew why.
 

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