McGovern: 1 yr @ start of 2016, 3 years at the end of 2017 - confirmed legend

[dogs105]

The purpose of "over egging" was to work out what point you would do that trade. As I thought, the point you would do that deal is the point it would unlikely be on the table

I would do the trade before that point, you just asked would I do the trade after he won the Brownlow. Well, yes.

"Will you accept $2000 for your car?"
"No I want more than that"
"Oh, well will you accept $600,000 then?"
"Yes"
"Why do you think you'd get $600,000?"

 

[MarcusP2]

Pick 12ish for Neale is about market value I'd have thought

Well pity we will only have pick 16/20 or so.

 

[Pdub]

A first should more than be enough for Lachie Neale, or a second and a player. He's a good player, but I wouldn't call him a gun. He's Richard Douglas mk2.






Was worth more a year ago than he is now when he was on the rise, but he plateaued in 2015, rated as the 55th best midfielder in the competition. If his 2016 matches his 2015 then a first round pick may be too much as he may have reached his ceiling.

 

[Tex200]

I would do the trade before that point, you just asked would I do the trade after he won the Brownlow. Well, yes.

"Will you accept $2000 for your car?"
"No I want more than that"
"Oh, well will you accept $600,000 then?"
"Yes"
"Why do you think you'd get $600,000?"

Hang on you said you wouldn't do the trade at the level he is now, but you would if he reached a higher level.

My point is that if he were to reach that higher level, the trade would most likely be off the table.

All hypothetical I know

 

[dogs105]

Hang on you said you wouldn't do the trade at the level he is now, but you would if he reached a higher level.

My point is that if he were to reach that higher level, the trade would most likely be off the table.

All hypothetical I know

There's a fair space between the level he is now, and best player in the comp you were describing. Because (in my opinion) he's not worth a first and McGovern now, it doesn't mean he has to win the Brownlow to be worth that.

Doesn't even need to be higher, even performing the same as last year for one more year to show consistency would be "doing more" than he has.

 

[Tex200]

A first should more than be enough for Lachie Neale, or a second and a player. He's a good player, but I wouldn't call him a gun. He's Richard Douglas mk2.



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Was worth more a year ago than he is now when he was on the rise, but he plateaued in 2015, rated as the 55th best midfielder in the competition. If his 2016 matches his 2015 then a first round pick may be too much as he may have reached his ceiling.

He made the AA squad as a mid in 2015 having played 70 games. I very much doubt he's reached his ceiling.

 

[Sanders]

A first should more than be enough for Lachie Neale, or a second and a player. He's a good player, but I wouldn't call him a gun. He's Richard Douglas mk2.



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Was worth more a year ago than he is now when he was on the rise, but he plateaued in 2015, rated as the 55th best midfielder in the competition. If his 2016 matches his 2015 then a first round pick may be too much as he may have reached his ceiling.

Oh dear

 

[Geoffa32]

A first should more than be enough for Lachie Neale, or a second and a player. He's a good player, but I wouldn't call him a gun. He's Richard Douglas mk2.



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Was worth more a year ago than he is now when he was on the rise, but he plateaued in 2015, rated as the 55th best midfielder in the competition. If his 2016 matches his 2015 then a first round pick may be too much as he may have reached his ceiling.

This guy is tiny. Can not see him becoming a Premier midfielder at that size, do not want to pay a Premium price.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

This guy is tiny. Can not see him becoming a Premier midfielder at that size, do not want to pay a Premium price.

176 cm .......modern midfielders getting taller 187cm average to 191 cm

We already have enough undersize midfielders without downsizing even further ......my views are no about Neales talent ......it's about getting the right midfield mix / structures

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He made the AA squad as a mid in 2015 having played 70 games. I very much doubt he's reached his ceiling.

No chance of that happening

 

[Scorpus]

If you can get Neale for a mid first rounder, you would do that immediately

 

[Wright Away]

He made the AA squad as a mid in 2015 having played 70 games. I very much doubt he's reached his ceiling.

He cannot touch the ceiling.

 

[GROTTO]

If you can get Neale for a mid first rounder, you would do that immediately

They may want to poach a WA player in return and not of the VB variety but more of the CC kind.

 

[LiamPickering]

They may want to poach a WA player in return and not of the VB variety but more of the CC kind.

Good on em.

 

[Thetrader15]

Good on em.

Plus their first rd pick

 

[Bacon8]

They may want to poach a WA player in return and not of the VB variety but more of the CC kind.

CC being a queenslander might stuff that up.

 

[dogs105]

No chance of that happening

Stepladder?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

CC being a queenslander might stuff that up.

Saved our bacon... Again with accurate stats.

 

[BRL121]

As others have pointed out, haven't we polluted poor old shooter's thread enough with all this Neale talk? Why not put it where it belongs, in the "Which A-grade midfielder" thread, or start a new "Lachie Neale" thread? Moderator!

 

[cmndstab]

Neale for McGovern + hopefully a mid-to-late first rounder is an absolute steal. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

 

[Brentmeister]

How did a good-news thread talking about mcgovern's new contract turn into a thread about us trading him? Weird.

Anyway, the fact that he's playing tonight shows he must be close to getting a proper senior game this year. The inside word that our coaching staff rate him very highly must have some substance.

 

[Mike Smyth]

A first should more than be enough for Lachie Neale, or a second and a player. He's a good player, but I wouldn't call him a gun. He's Richard Douglas mk2.



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Was worth more a year ago than he is now when he was on the rise, but he plateaued in 2015, rated as the 55th best midfielder in the competition. If his 2016 matches his 2015 then a first round pick may be too much as he may have reached his ceiling.

If we do trade our 1st rounder it should only be for a gun midfielder. To complement our list and get back in the game, we need quality. We have enough 2nd tier midfielders. So if Neale doesn't have gun quality/size - pass.

 

[hippyhippy]

With Mccarthy not playing this year. . It might mean freo don't have to give much for him

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Good game from the kid. Has some X factor. A bit of the Brett burtons about him for mine. Freak Mark early in the game which was paid as a free kick to him.

 

[huludicidal]

A first should more than be enough for Lachie Neale, or a second and a player. He's a good player, but I wouldn't call him a gun. He's Richard Douglas mk2.



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Was worth more a year ago than he is now when he was on the rise, but he plateaued in 2015, rated as the 55th best midfielder in the competition. If his 2016 matches his 2015 then a first round pick may be too much as he may have reached his ceiling.

This is embarrasing.

A) the 55th best midfielder in 2015? Hahaha. That is not what the ratings are saying at all. The ratings are not based purely on 2015. Just stop.

B) was worth more a year ago? Do you even watch football? He had a massive breakout season in 2015 and was rightfully named in the 40 man AA squad. To my knowledge, there weren't 54 other midfielders selected in this squad.

C) a second round pick and 'a player' (presumably you're referring to someone of McGovern's standing) will not get you Lachie Neale. That's utter nonsense.