Mitch McGovern 2: As The Worm Turns (read the OP)

[Scorpus]

It's a superdraft because of the talent.

No draft is a super draft. Can guarantee you this draft will be seen roughly the same as any other draft in 5 years.

Every single time a draft is called "super" it without fail is not super in hindsight

 

[1990crow]

So your argument now is that you think we shouldn't judge the value of assets by their current asset?

And you think this is a cogent point in your favour?

Maybe some posters here are AFC plants trying to downplay expectations because they’ve shat the bed.

 

[Sanders]

Surprisingly circumspect from manure.

SEN’s Sam McClure reported the offer from the Bombers comes in well below the other offers in terms of dollars.

“He’s got to be respected for picking the deal of the four that is financially significantly the lowest. He’s gone there for his footy, certainly not for coin,”

“It’s going to be six or seven years, it’s not going to be near a million dollars, which was the offer from the other three clubs.”

80% more than Gov?

Gov must be playing for free eh Jeffcrowe

 

[Cleric]

People asking about how Carlton get Setterfield if they trade out their 2 seconds.
GWS have an academy kid called Thomas Green who could go top 5 next year and GWS need points for him. So a second rounder from Carlton next year will be more valuable than one this year.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Oh Jeffcrowe

Good you have an ally , there are a few more people that agree with me though

 

[I_Was_There]

This is my view for the week and Carlton supporters are still the dumbest in the leagueView attachment 571182

Looks lovely. Where is it?

 

[footy4ever]

If Rankine slips to Adelaide at Pick 8 I will buy you a carton.

Port will engineer a pick before that.

 

[Golumless]

It's a superdraft because of the talent.

In part true. In part false. It's a super draft for SA clubs seeing 4 top 20 talents has not happened at all since our existence started. The rest though, it's a strong draft, but not in the super category. The lack of production from Victoria stopped that from being a thing.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

80% more than Gov?

Gov must be playing for free eh Jeffcrowe

Now you’re twisting the truth

The deal from Saints was reported as 1.2M which I was using as comparison to Gov 750k

It even says there the Essendon deal is well below , what’s your point ?

Distraction distraction

You think Gov is worth pick 4-7 , there isn’t many experts that agree

 

[El Doederino]

How funny are those Carlton ****nuggets and their #bluemour that Shiel was locked in

Take with a grain of salt any insight on McGovern

 

[Legz]

I see a lot of "would this combination of teens picks get us in the Top 5" posts.

This is a superdraft. If we want Top 5 we'd need to give up 4 picks inside 20 to be even a remote chance. And a List Manager would never do that, nor should he.

Aren’t Freo chasing 2 firsts for Lobb & Hogan?

 

[Cleric]

In part true. In part false. It's a super draft for SA clubs seeing 4 top 20 talents has not happened at all since our existence started. The rest though, it's a strong draft, but not in the super category. The lack of production from Victoria stopped that from being a thing.

This draft in my eyes works like this.
Top 8 (Kings, Luko, Rankine, Smith, Walsh, Rozee, Bailey) are a level above the next group which is pretty even out till around 20.

 

[Golumless]

So what's the go with him ?

I guess he wasn't good enough to be any more then a rookie pick, but that's the player in reference if you want to have a quick suss of highlights.

 

[hey shorty]

So your argument now is that you think we shouldn't judge the value of assets by their current asset?

And you think this is a cogent point in your favour?

For one, I dont believe Gov is worth a single digit pick in this draft. That is a belief shared by most media and draft experts.

Pick 13 and a guy who will would be in our R1 side next season is fair value.

 

[MRB37]

 

[VictorianCrow85]

Carlton send picks 26 and 28 to Sydney for pick 13. We get pick 13 and McAdam for McGovern. We also swap our 2019 3rd round pick for Carlton's 2019 5th rounder

If that's the deal I'm fine with that. I always said I thought McGovern would be valued around pick 10-15 but that I felt we'd expect McAdam (the AFL gift) to actually get it done. A pick swap is no huge deal and occurred last year in the Gibbs trade so makes sense they'd go that route again.

 

[Sanders]

I listened for 10 mins and a Crows supporter rang about Gov trade. They just kept saying his contract status meant nothing as we want him gone!! I cannot recall any AFC staff saying that?

It’s a theory tailored to suit an agenda. There has never been any evidence it’s true but 1 maybe 2 people on here keep repeating it like it’s not only true but consensus fact

 

[NTRabbit]

Geelong traded pick 44 for Krueger, us trading 41 for McAdams should be about the right value, as both players are/were expected to be taken around the late 30s to early 40s, so easier to spend the pick in advance than hope and wait

 

[Sanders]

Tbf it's easy to be brainwashed on here especially from trolls like Sanders.
Those in the know in the real world will tell you Gov is nowhere near valued as a top 10 pick in the industry.

Oompah

 

[Cap]

So what was it?

 

[1990crow]

So what was it?

Confidential..

Top ten pick. We’ve been consistent.

 

[GROTTO]

Confidential..

Top ten pick. We’ve been consistent.

He looked pissed off.

Thats a good sign. If he was smiling I would be worried.

 

[Cap]

He looked pissed off.

Thats a good sign. If he was smiling I would be worried.

So what happened to a pick in the 20s and an SANFL player?

Bloody confusing

 

[MRB37]

So what was it?

SOS said we're requesting a state league player as part of the deal, asked him if it'd be state league player and a 2nd rounder, SOS ummed and ahhhed and said not quite but they're working through it.

 

[Crow-eater]

So what was it?

Confirmed we are after one of their pre-selections (McAdam)

When asked if it'll be that plus "say a second round pick" SOS replied "Not quite" and said the detail of the deal are obviously confidential.