Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2022, part II

[James1970]

10 minutes after reading...Clarkson and Fagan are finished.

They have to be.

 

[Cataholic]

This is going to be a considerable distraction, and cause a turbulent start, for the NMFC.

Poor buggers can't catch a break.

 

[Cataholic]

10 minutes after reading...Clarkson and Fagan are finished.

They have to be.

Clarko just signed a 5 (?) year contract, and they love having Fagan up north.

The AFL will find a way out for them.

 

[Jimmy Willis Jawline]

Clarko just signed a 5 (?) year contract, and they love having Fagan up north.

The AFL will find a way out for them.

We can't let it happen.
I will go feral mode on this.
There's crossing the line, and then there is tearing apart families and.. far out is this genocide?

 

[FredLeDeux]

After years without recruiting an Indigenous player, Clarko arrives and convinces the higher ups that these players can be assets...if they are herded in with the Good White Men, isolated from their kin and domesticated so that they are no longer wild animals.

Absolutely horrific. Premierships won this way have a poison chalice.

It makes you wonder whether this sort of abuse was limited to indigenous players, or was actually also extended to other young and vulnerable players.

 

[James1970]

Clarko just signed a 5 (?) year contract, and they love having Fagan up north.

The AFL will find a way out for them.

Clarkson doesn't start at North until November from what I've read.

It'll be torn up today.

 

[Cataholic]

We can't let it happen.
I will go feral mode on this.
There's crossing the line, and then there is tearing apart families and.. far out is this genocide?

It's going to be decided by the depth of outrage and anger the AFL perceive I reckon.

If they think they can bluff their way through it, they will.

 

[Cataholic]

Clarkson doesn't start at North until November from what I've read.

It'll be torn up today.

That's a possibility. Hadn't thought of that.

NMFC could cite a lack of complete disclosure by Clarko.

 

[Cataholic]

It makes you wonder whether this sort of abuse was limited to indigenous players, or was actually also extended to other young and vulnerable players.

Not hard to believe. If they had no issue with mistreating indigenous players they'd have no qualms at all with others.

 

[thejester]

It's jaw-dropping and horrific which begs so many answers to so many questions.

Again, it's been left to the ABC to investigate and report this - not the AFL. Not Channel 7. Not News Corp and Foxtel.

One thing we know - Clarkson made sure he had signed a long-term contract before this report was handed down. No way in hell he would have been given one now.

Man to be fair to News Corp one of their reporters wrote a book on the culture within AFL administration last year that (as Russell Jackson pointed out in the ABC) got absolutely memory-holed because Nine, which dominates footy media, wouldn't discuss it.

 

[doctor_evil]

That's a possibility. Hadn't thought of that.

NMFC could cite a lack of complete disclosure by Clarko.

Clarkos name is already mud. I doubt he gets litigious. Can you imagine the fallout if he tried to sink North before he even started?

Will the Boys Club eat one of their own?

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

It's going to be decided by the depth of outrage and anger the AFL perceive I reckon.

If they think they can bluff their way through it, they will.

I don’t think there’s any bluffing through this.
If it’s true, Clarkson and Fagan cannot be involved with the sport ever again.

 

[James1970]

That's a possibility. Hadn't thought of that.

NMFC could cite a lack of complete disclosure by Clarko.

If the allegations are true, then the AFL (who now say are investigating all this) would have to remove Clarkson and Fagan from the AFL for life.

 

[Mr Meow]

It's going to be decided by the depth of outrage and anger the AFL perceive I reckon.

If they think they can bluff their way through it, they will.

It's a litmus test for the AFL and the club's containing the accused - only if/when it is actionable (I'm not in the nitty gritty of knowing how this sort of thing plays out so soon after a bombshell report, legally etc).

 

[Cataholic]

Clarkos name is already mud. I doubt he gets litigious. Can you imagine the fallout if he tried to sink North before he even started?

Will the Boys Club eat one of their own?

Be interesting to see what the AFL and North do.

Never been much of a human has Clarko.

 

[Cataholic]

I don’t think there’s any bluffing through this.
If it’s true, Clarkson and Fagan cannot be involved with the sport ever again.

Hopefully some integrity comes into play here.

 

[Cataholic]

If the allegations are true, then the AFL (who now say are investigating all this) would have to remove Clarkson and Fagan from the AFL for life.

Hopefully the AFL shows full transparency and integrity.

 

[James1970]

Man to be fair to News Corp one of their reporters wrote a book on the culture within AFL administration last year that (as Russell Jackson pointed out in the ABC) got absolutely memory-holed because Nine, which dominates footy media, wouldn't discuss it.

You mean 7, yeah?

But what you say proves my point - one 'inside' reporter writes a book and it hardly gets mentioned.

 

[Cataholic]

It's a litmus test for the AFL and the club's containing the accused - only if/when it is actionable (I'm not in the nitty gritty of knowing how this sort of thing plays out so soon after a bombshell report, legally etc).

Absolutely.

As I just said to another poster, this is a defining moment for the AFL and its stance against racism.

Will it show the transparency, integrity and strength of character needed??

 

[Munich]

I always knew there was something off about "nice guy" Fagan. He looks like a creep.

And Clarkson, enough said about that fwit.

 

[Cataholic]

I guess we shouldn't lose sight of Clarko and Fagan's right to the presumption of innocence here.

That card will be played by the two of them, the AFL, and probably the NMFC too.

It is but a series of allegations at this point, though damning.....especially in light of Rioli's departure too.

 

[Stokey]

I always thought there was a massive skeleton in the Hawks closet but never thought this would be it. Truly appalling.

 

[Cataholic]

I always knew there was something off about "nice guy" Fagan. He looks like a creep.

And Clarkson, enough said about that fwit.

Already has an unsavoury record of behaviour does our Mr Clarkson.

 

[thejester]

You mean 7, yeah?

But what you say proves my point - one 'inside' reporter writes a book and it hardly gets mentioned.

No, Nine. They own The Age and 3AW and 6PR and run the show that reliably sets the weekly agenda - a show that is presented by the head of SEN/AFL Nation (and who clearly does not like author of said book). That's a pretty big chunk of footy media!

 

[Munich]

Already has an unsavoury record of behaviour does our Mr Clarkson.

And people thought him stealing those bricks was his worst.