Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2024, Part 2

[00VicWard001]

Mitchell is a great man and coach; disappointment is natural. Over time, this will be irrelevant.

Mitchell is not a great man. There’s a lot of not great things he’s done that I’m aware of. Not a role model…

 

[frggr]

And mate. You dont remember Scott walking through a group of players finger pointing and being aggressive in a game?

Fairly sure that wasn't a response to a young opposition player making a crack to his former team mate on social media though.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

I thought mitchells response in his presser was very fair. You can tell hes seething with ken but he held it together.

He needs to settle down, I felt he was overly aggressive and seething.

He supports his team having showmanship and gets annoyed at a coach having a go at one of his players. Own it, he can be angry at Ken but he needs to own their shitstirring, right now their reaction is weak, it’s like the big jock who laughs at everyone but gets upset when someone gives it back to them.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Wrong. He was mouthing off before they lined up.

Which is worse. You wait until after a guard of honour for something like that. Do better ken.

 

[Strange Cat]

I'm not sure why you're so wound up at about it.
Inappropriate? Probably.

But they weren't at a funeral.
And I'm with you that it was still going on while they did the chair off.

And mate. You dont remember Scott walking through a group of players finger pointing and being aggressive in a game?

I’m not worked up I’m just suprised that people just accept that was a acceptable act from a coach to start a sledging match when the game is over and everyone is celebrating the chairing off a player

You can play whataboutisn all you like I’m rather just focus on the event being talked about but you do you when the deflection

 

[frggr]

I've heard him say plenty of good things about us.

Yeah I reckon Hodge is pretty even-handed in analysis or at least aware of his bias. I've got time for him.

 

[cats_09]

Is anyone surprised by this

 

[Vdubs]

Mitchell's post-match is worth a watch, putting Hawthorn biases aside (and the concept of hypocrisy with regard to Mitchell himself).

At the end of the day, a 60 year old man Hinkley shouldn't be goading a 21 year old opposition player. There's not much a young opposition player can do (non-physically) that warrants the behaviour - especially considering Ken's team won.

It's all about timing. Given they have to do these pressers in the heat of the moment, what would you expect him to say.
What Ken said seemed very benign, and truthful, and apt from where we sit.

 

[frggr]

The shkibiddi'ers become the shkibiddi'd. How the turntables.

No cap. Fr. Fr.

 

[Munich]

Mitchell's post-match is worth a watch, putting Hawthorn biases aside (and the concept of hypocrisy with regard to Mitchell himself).

At the end of the day, a 60 year old man Hinkley shouldn't be goading a 21 year old opposition player. There's not much a young opposition player can do (non-physically) that warrants the behaviour - especially considering Ken's team won.

Was Mitchell right there and saw who started what or did Ginnivan have a sook to him.

I wouldn't believe Mitchell in a fit.

 

[Commando]

Him talking about anyone but Hawks and Geelong i am fine with it is when he starts talking about those 2 things get iffy with him

I find him pretty complimentary to Geelong actually

 

[Vdubs]

Mitchell is not a great man. There’s a lot of not great things he’s done that I’m aware of. Not a role model…

Well that's fine. I loved him as a player when not against us

 

[Strange Cat]

No cap. Fr. Fr.

Ban worthy

 

[catempire]

Which is worse. You wait until after a guard of honour for something like that. Do better ken.

He owes the sooking diving sucking cheats nothing.

Why would you want to be on the wrong side of this? Laughable.

 

[00VicWard001]

Fairly sure that wasn't a response to a young opposition player making a crack to his former team mate on social media though.

It was Scott calling Fagan an old c*nt and asking to meet outside - and then giving it to Harris Andrews

He was gonna take on the whole team.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I thought mitchells response in his presser was very fair. You can tell hes seething with ken but he held it together.

Watching it now. Look at his hands locked together. Yeah, he wants to punch a wall. He's swalllowing it though. Objectively he has a LOT to be proud of this year.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

He needs to settle down, I felt he was overly aggressive and seething.

He supports his team having showmanship and gets annoyed at a coach having a go at one of his players. Own it, he can be angry at Ken but he needs to own their shitstirring, right now their reaction is weak, it’s like the big jock who laughs at everyone but gets upset when someone gives it back to them.

On this ocassion i agree with him.
As much as the hawks young guys need to check their attitude ken is older and has a responsibility to carry himself better. To not walk away from that in a moment that was about a universally admired player across the league like breust is just no good.
But like i said ken has been immature many times before we have seen his carry on before. Its disappointing but no surprise.

 

[FootyLad0]

So it's ok for Sam Mitchell to say Ginnivan and Sicily can be emotional after a game but Ken can't?
Especially when Ginnivan was being a smart ass in the first place?

Nah **** off you're all disrespecting Bruest in his milestone, grow TF up the lot of you and put your own shit aside for a legend.

 

[frggr]

Is anyone surprised by this

And that's why they're unlikely to be successful (Adelaide either).

The time of "old school footy clubs", tough love etc are gone. Young players generally don't respond well to it. Similarly in regular organisations.

That's why Hawthorn were able to turn it around quickly. We laugh at "dabbing stereo" and the goal celebrations and the "loose" culture, but it works.

Adelaide absolutely hung Rachele out to dry for a pretty tame bit of fan interaction - it's shithouse culture.

 

[Strange Cat]

Was Mitchell right there and saw who started what or did Ginnivan have a sook to him.

I wouldn't believe Mitchell in a fit.

Not too sure if it really matters the game was well over and everyone forming a guard for Bruest

Was it really necessary to respond ? Wasn’t the win enough? Made even worse that Kenny admitted that he started it with roaming Brian

 

[The_Todd07]

Mitchell is not a great man. There’s a lot of not great things he’s done that I’m aware of. Not a role model…

I don't know specifics but my Auntie is very good friends with Hodge and she is not at all a fan of Mitchell

 

[FootyLad0]

I've heard him say plenty of good things about us.

Except that we were no shot to win the premiership...while his Hawks were?
Yeah ok Hodgey lol

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

Mitchell's post-match is worth a watch, putting Hawthorn biases aside (and the concept of hypocrisy with regard to Mitchell himself).

At the end of the day, a 60 year old man Hinkley shouldn't be goading a 21 year old opposition player. There's not much a young opposition player can do (non-physically) that warrants the behaviour - especially considering Ken's team won.

It was byplay, Ken wasn’t aggressive in his delivery, Ginnivan is a 21 year old man, he knows what he does and it’s good fun, but he has to learn to take it and laugh it off if he’s going to put it out there. And Sicily should’ve said one thing and left it or put his arm around Ginnivan.

Honestly, just grateful we support the Cats, a mature team who play the game as it should be played and have a coach that is always level headed and mature in press conferences

 

[catempire]

Here is the footage for those having a stroke suggesting Hinkley was having a go DURING the chairing off. Simply fantasy.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Memes kept coming .