Game Day Pre-Season - West Coast vs Adelaide (Fri)

[BRL121]

We've already extended his and Rachele contract without them playing a game for us.

Yes. I said "again".

 

[Afcprophet]

Proper thoughts seeing there is no 2nds game broadcast:

That first quarter was fantastic, the pressure was immense and we piled on goals. Afterwards, we went through the gears a bit, never really losing control of the game, even when challenged and deserved a 50 point win. Considering it's a tricky start, we do at least look up to the challenge coming into it.

Hinge was my player of the game. Played a pivotal role in breaking West Coast in the first quarter, and did a fair bit of good afterwards. Read the play well, was tough and most importantly, did damage with the ball in hand. You'd think he's utterly locked in that wing spot from that game, and 5 tackles/13 PA also gives him another lane to impact.

Fog continued on from the last two weeks. Looks fitter, looks stronger (if that is even possible?) and is just making plays now that scream he's ready to be one of the premier key forwards in the competition. 18 disposals, 4 goals 1, 11 score involvements and was willing to get his hands dirty defensively (which considering that frame is going to have a few defenders nervous). 10/10 performance.

I had a lot of time for Rachele and Soligo performances. Both got involved in the midfield rotations and both had some serious moments where their poise, and agility cleaved through West Coast. Sogs clearance work as well was sublime, and both weren't slouches defensively. Very heartening.

Keays was fantastic as a forward, and offers a good contrast to our other forwards with his strength and gut running. A complete game, and considering how well McHenry played last week, it was needed to snuff out that challenge.

As much as this game proved he was mortal, Rankine deserves a fair bit of credit. Wasn't his day to get a big haul, but 7 score involvements, 6 tackles and 24 pressure acts in a preseason match is a real indicator he is willing to work hard to make the most of his talent, even when the goals dry up. I'm a bit disappointed how little midfield time we gave him, but still, a game I imagine Nicks is stoked about.

Berry looks fantastic, and good to see him get on the scoresheet. If he can add a few more goals to his game, it'll go a long way to help him elevate himself to being an A-grade midfielder.

Pedlar best game for the club, and bodes well for the season proper. Looked powerful, creative and confident. Actually, on that note, it was very promising how powerful most of our kids looked this week. Burgess has earned every cent.

Laird, Dawson, Tex, Smith were all influential and were pivotal in us controlling the game. Good hitout for all of them.

One of ROBs best performances in a long time. Came up against a ruck that isn't ready and just did what he wanted with him.

I really liked Murrays performance in defense. 14 touches (11/14 effective)/8 marks/6 intercepts/6 spoils is a damn promising performance and keep Keane at bay. Butts didn't quite hit those heights with 10 disposals/5 marks/6 intercepts/5 spoils, but still, a solid day at the office all things considered.

Michaelaney faded after an early start, but he was a rock defensively. Doesn't look out of place at all.

Brown accumulated well when he came on in the last, which is very promising seeing it was the one thing holding him back at Collingwood. Bit of a shame we didn't get him in until late January as he probably challenges for a best 22 spot if he had been under Burgess for another couple of months.

McAdam quiet, but had some nice moments.

Himmelberg had the definition of an almost game.

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Other game notes: I reckon that was one of the best officiated games I've seen in a long time. AFL is absolutely on the money to really focus in on holding the ball calls, and even if it does seem a bit over-zealous at times, it's one of the very few things they can do to minimize congestion/open the game up. Plus, we do stand in good steed to be rewarded for it, which is also good.

West Coast are going to be s**t this year. That said, their future looks a hell of a lot brighter now they've got Ginbey. Looks a talent to build around once they decide to stop drifting and commit to a proper rebuild.

That pedlar goal that didn't count was great

 

[Golumless]

How did Brown go tonight, how is he looking?

Came on in the last, and was involved with 8 touches. Not a lot of damage with them, but if he keeps accumulating (seeing that's what really killed his Collingwood career), that'll come.

Might be a bit of a steal.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Score in the 2nds game?

 

[1970crow]

Is anyone else in shock? Like I know preseason but we look good, like way better than we have been in a long time, these young kids are killing it today it's great to see

1. It’s a preseason game, intensity isn’t exactly a feature. 2. It’s being played against last year’s deputy spoon winner.

Way too early to draw anything meaningful.

 

[StonesThrow]

Just started watching replay. Amazing bit of play in the second with Rachele piercing some defenders, Berry taking down gov like he was a 5 year old, fog standing up in a tackle (prob should have been htb earlier) and Soligo delivering a dangerous pass.

Soligo what an elite talent. Need to lock this guy in long term. Imo can reach Lachie Neale

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Lachie Neale

Age

31

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

levels and I don't like to overrate. Slightly different player but could get to that level.

 

[BRL121]

Score in the 2nds game?

See above.

 

[Peter Doherty]

See above.

Yeah, thanks. That was 20 mins ago, any updates?

 

[ABAB]

Yes. I said "again".

Not sure George Kramer will "approve".....

 

[BRL121]

Yeah, thanks. That was 20 mins ago, any updates?

12:11 to 4:3 final.

 

[StonesThrow]

Haha Keays and Tex going in for a weird embrace and then there's that crows dude in the background with an epic beard. What a scene

 

[Golumless]

Score in the 2nds game?

 

[spenze]

Came on in the last, and was involved with 8 touches. Not a lot of damage with them, but if he keeps accumulating (seeing that's what really killed his Collingwood career), that'll come.

Might be a bit of a steal.

Hope so, usually when you get a player for free, his original teams supporters are like "we really hope he goes well, he deserves another chance " and that is what I got from Brisbane supporters about Keayes and Hinge but Pies supporters were less than complimentary about the kid so I hope he shoves it dead set up their collective arses

 

[martyparty]

They will be burning effigies of Ken in the street

They’ll probably go after the real thing.

 

[StonesThrow]

Another bit of good play. Pedlar gets it in the second on the boundary brushes one tackle and don't argue to another. Goes for a handball and changes his mind mid motion to a kick to Berry at half forward. That was good!

 

[Golumless]

Hope so, usually when you get a player for free, his original teams supporters are like "we really hope he goes well, he deserves another chance " and that is what I got from Brisbane supporters about Keayes and Hinge but Pies supporters were less than complimentary about the kid so I hope he shoves it dead set up their collective arses

Likewise, especially as he does look decently athletic and fills a need.

That said, wasn't it Keane who they were filthy about? Seeing the whole retired mid-season when he was just about to break into their best 22.

 

[Betts are off]

Lots of strong looking lads in the tri stripes tonight.

Feel like to Burgo factor is kicking in!

 

[StonesThrow]

Fog taking some strong 1v1 versus strong defenders

 

[FR0GGY]

ROB has been good, he is running everywhere and took some good contested marks around the ground.

Who was he up against?

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I liked Keays's goal from the pocket in the second quarter. I wouldn't have thought he'd kick that.

 

[Golumless]

Who was he up against?

Callum Jamieson, who looked nowhere near ready for AFL.

 

[ABAB]

Who was he up against?

Didn't know his opponent affected his movement and follow up effort around the ground or ability to mark but he was also good against Gawn last year. Maybe he is rediscovering his 2020 form but then he did show the same in a few games last year against Richmond and Bulldogs.

 

[Thylacinus]

Player stats for those interested: West Coast Eagles vs Adelaide Crows - AFL Pre-Season Round 1, 2023
The columns from left to right are G B K H D M HO FF FA T

Player Match Stats​

West Coast Eagles

25	S. Hurn	0	0	20	5	25	11	0	2	3	6
37	T. Barrass	0	0	13	2	15	6	0	2	0	1
14	L. Duggan	0	0	17	8	25	12	0	0	1	2
13	L. Shuey	0	0	13	7	20	8	0	1	2	4
20	J. McGovern	0	0	17	8	25	12	0	2	0	2
5	J. Hunt	0	0	8	8	16	9	0	0	2	0
15	J. Cripps	2	2	8	3	11	3	0	0	1	1
11	T. Kelly	0	0	7	9	16	4	0	0	1	3
18	C. Chesser	0	1	7	2	9	2	0	1	2	2
24	X. O'Neill	0	0	8	6	14	2	0	1	1	4
2	J. Waterman	0	1	8	3	11	4	3	1	3	3
21	J. Petruccelle	1	0	7	2	9	3	0	2	1	3
1	L. Ryan	1	0	8	2	10	2	0	3	1	2
12	O. Allen	1	3	7	1	8	5	0	1	0	0
35	J. Rotham	1	0	4	1	5	3	1	1	2	2
40	C. Jamieson	0	0	5	10	15	1	18	0	1	3
6	E. Yeo	1	1	12	8	20	7	0	0	1	3
4	D. Sheed	0	0	9	12	21	5	0	0	0	3
39	G. Clark	0	0	2	5	7	3	0	0	0	2
28	T. Cole	0	0	13	3	16	7	0	2	1	3
3	A. Gaff	0	0	6	8	14	3	0	0	0	0
7	R. Ginbey	0	0	8	9	17	1	0	3	0	5
8	E. Hewett	0	0	1	1	2	0	0	0	0	0
31	J. Jones	0	0	3	9	12	1	0	0	1	2
23	A. Witherden	0	0	7	1	8	2	0	0	0	1

Adelaide Crows

41	J. Butts	0	0	9	1	10	5	0	0	2	0
39	T. Doedee	0	0	8	3	11	5	0	1	0	0
37	P. Parnell	0	0	8	3	11	5	0	0	0	4
12	J. Dawson	0	0	23	3	26	10	0	0	2	0
28	N. Murray	0	0	9	5	14	8	0	2	0	2
33	B. Smith	0	0	15	7	22	6	0	0	1	1
20	M. Hinge	0	0	18	5	23	9	0	1	3	5
29	R. Laird	2	0	12	20	32	4	0	1	1	10
9	R. Sloane	0	0	9	9	18	1	0	1	0	2
10	L. Pedlar	1	1	6	4	10	1	0	2	0	1
8	J. Rachele	0	0	8	3	11	2	0	4	1	4
2	B. Keays	4	1	12	6	18	7	0	2	0	4
22	I. Rankine	1	0	5	8	13	2	0	1	3	6
13	T. Walker	3	0	14	1	15	10	3	0	1	0
32	D. Fogarty	4	2	10	8	18	7	0	1	2	2
43	R. O'Brien	0	0	3	14	17	5	35	1	0	3
3	S. Berry	2	1	12	7	19	3	0	2	1	2
14	J. Soligo	0	0	6	9	15	3	0	0	0	3
21	T. Brown	0	0	2	6	8	1	0	0	0	0
5	M. Crouch	0	0	5	4	9	2	0	0	0	0
34	E. Himmelberg	0	2	9	5	14	4	6	3	1	2
23	S. McAdam	0	0	6	2	8	3	0	0	2	3
16	M. Michalanney	0	0	4	3	7	3	0	1	1	2
26	H. Schoenberg	0	0	9	9	18	6	0	1	1	3

 

[GreyCrow]

Maybe he has but increased fitness would explain his kicking better to me.



I don't buy it Jen, others can play midfield and not kick grubbers into the forward line like Benny did last year and i mean thousands of midfielders I have watched in my time have, they also run the same distance. Increased fitness in a competitive sport is such a huge advantage when it comes to performing skills. I hope this is the case too because it augers bloody well for us if young Benjamin can put balls into the 50, off balanced, under pressure like he did to Tex in the last quarter.

I honestly think we are seeing some dividends from Burgo at present now he has had a second PS with the boys

How much is time and space?

Someone mentioned DJ and he always had time and space - even when rushed - and he leaned back on his kicks to give them distance

I always felt Keays was rushed and kicked like a crab at times ie body position forward. Was he more composed tonight?

 

[GreyCrow]

He was carrying a chronic groin injury for about 50% of the season. Didn’t run for 3 months after the season finished. Wasn’t just the AC joint

Should have kept reading - crabbed up