Autopsy QF 2019 - Pies d Cats by 10 points

[frggr]

Can't read a ****ing radar image.
More excuses.

 

[son of meto]

Please excuse my intrusion, guys, but I just heard a snippet from Scott's pre game comments:

"...we got the weather wrong, but we're still taller than Collingwood, so we don't think (dropping Stanley) will have any impact on the result."

What the...?

Yep...we love our coach. He's a genius! Go Doggies btw...would love to see them roll up to Collingwood at the 'G' in a Prelim. Woof Woof.

 

[Johnny Cattery]

Maybe to defence obsessive.
Need to bring some attacking positive aggression into the side.

Lots of signs of this, not least the recruitment of defenders (Rivers, Henderson, Tuohy none of whom were especially needed), failure to recruit a full time ruck coach, and getting in forwards not as priorities but as bonuses because cheap (Dalhaus, Rohan). Everything captive to a defence-first mentality: recruitment, tactics, structure. And captive also to making Selwood a premiership captain, so we top up and top up and top up and won't take risks, on the field or off it.

 

[Partridge]

Did nothing last week

Missed a goal right in front of the sticks and then goes missing all game

There’s no defence for him at all

It's possible for a few different strands of thought to be true with Hawkins.

Was he solely to blame for tonight's loss? Of course not.
Does the game plan help him? Absolutely not.
Should an experienced gun full forward have three goalless weeks in succession? No.
Are we entitled to expect better output in September? Yes.

Something along those lines.

 

[Frappe]

I think this was worse because the Pies gave us false hope by leaving us in it.

Stanley late withdrawal.
Tuohy down back after being played forward the past few weeks.
Game style as slow as treacle.
Not sure why everyone is hailing Scarlett as our next coach. He’s as culpable as anyone given the way we let goals out the back and back men spoiling and knocking each other over.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

I thought Chapman starting as sub in his 250th in a QF was our worst match committee decision ever.

Then I thought Hawkins being a late withdrawal from the same game, after we’d played him injured all season, was our worst match committee decision ever.

Then I thought that dropping Dan Menzel for a QF and replacing him with Zach Guthrie was our worst match committee decision ever.

I stand corrected.

Dropping Rhys Stanley from the 2019 QF is the worst match committee decision this club has ever made.

Slow clap, Geelong

I think we could make strong arguments as to why each one was the worst.

Listing them does highlight a theme, however, and that is that even when finishing high on the ladder, we keep coming into finals being uncertain of what key pieces of our best side in terms of structure and personnel should be. Drop your only rucks capable of performing to move your FB into the ruck, move one of your KPDs to the forward line, drop your second highest goal scorer because you're suddenly worried about speed... You shouldn't have to make changes this integral to the composition and functioning of the team so close to the finals so often.

 

[CoachEmUpChucky]

Geelong's 'shit our pants and rush a high, slow helicopter kick inside 50' will be the undoing of West Coast.

 

[Strange Cat]

It's possible for a few different strands of thought to be true with Hawkins.

Was he solely to blame for tonight's loss? Of course not.
Does the game plan help him? Absolutely not.
Should an experienced gun full forward have three goalless weeks in succession? No.
Are we entitled to expect better output in September? Yes.

Something along those lines.

Not blaming him solely for the loss btw but I agree on all your points

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Just think, if the cats kicked those 3 easy set shots in the first half instead of missing them, we would've won this game.

 

[Grimoz]

In short "We shit the bed, but thats ok because we can shit the bed again next week and then i can go on holidays, oh and Grundy had no influence on the result it was all Jane Bunns fault she got the weather wrong, had nothing to do with me"

 

[caitsith01]

Did nothing last week

Missed a goal right in front of the sticks and then goes missing all game

There’s no defence for him at all

Bullshit. He's operating in a forward line with 20-30 players in it and 2-3 mobile marking defenders in front of him, with the ball being shanked and helicoptered nowhere near to his advantage.

Clear out the god damn forward line, kick the ball in fast and with a bit of shape and watch him kick 4-6 goals.

Look at how Collingwood were marking the ball. Their forward line mostly empty with loads of room and kicks to the advantage of their forwards.

 

[son of meto]

I thought Chapman starting as sub in his 250th in a QF was our worst match committee decision ever.

Then I thought Hawkins being a late withdrawal from the same game, after we’d played him injured all season, was our worst match committee decision ever.

Then I thought that dropping Dan Menzel for a QF and replacing him with Zach Guthrie was our worst match committee decision ever.

I stand corrected.

Dropping Rhys Stanley from the 2019 QF is the worst match committee decision this club has ever made.

Slow clap, Geelong

When Chapman sat on the pine...that was the moment I began to think there was a problem at Geelong...especially with the coach. No honour or sense of greatness. It smacked of arrogance that did not bode well...proven since.

 

[TomsBulgingDisc]

'Scott: (On home finals position) We’ve said our piece. It’s clear and I’m not going to say it again'

Only been banging on about it for a fortnight... Finally gives the right response. Not unlike his game day decisions, 2 weeks late.

 

[Nickoo]

Did anyone else get a smart ass message from some idiot with a user name "Bruestgun"?

Fairdinkum. What a knob.

Yup. Didn’t reply


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[Baudolino]

I thought Chapman starting as sub in his 250th in a QF was our worst match committee decision ever.

Then I thought Hawkins being a late withdrawal from the same game, after we’d played him injured all season, was our worst match committee decision ever.

Then I thought that dropping Dan Menzel for a QF and replacing him with Zach Guthrie was our worst match committee decision ever.

I stand corrected.

Dropping Rhys Stanley from the 2019 QF is the worst match committee decision this club has ever made.

Slow clap, Geelong

I'm struggling to think of another club that has made even *one* decision in finals as bad as the ones on this list. I genuinely think if one were to draw up a list of the five worst decisions made by club match committees in finals since 2012, every entry on the list would be a Geelong-related one.

The MC seems to save their worst for September. It's pretty galling.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Just goes to show you that our superior coaching and game plan can only take us so far when the other team has too many more good footballers.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Lot of young players that seriously shit the bed tonight.

 

[Strange Cat]

Bulls**t. He's operating in a forward line with 20-30 players in it and 2-3 mobile marking defenders in front of him, with the ball being shanked and helicoptered nowhere near to his advantage.

Clear out the god damn forward line, kick the ball in fast and with a bit of shape and watch him kick 4-6 goals.

Look at how Collingwood were marking the ball. Their forward line mostly empty with loads of room and kicks to the advantage of their forwards.

And when he gets his shot he misses it

He’s been hopeless for weeks...you take the big paycheck you are expected to slot them from straight out the front of the square

No excuses for that

 

[cats_09]

'Scott: (On home finals position) We’ve said our piece. It’s clear and I’m not going to say it again'

Only been banging on about it for a fortnight... Finally gives the right response. Not unlike his game day decisions, 2 weeks late.

It's the media who's been banging on about it and still banging on about it based on them asking questions in the press conference

They are trying to create a story from it, and even when Scott responds with "I've said all I have to say on that matter", they still continue to ask

 

[cats_09]

Lot of young players that seriously s**t the bed tonight.

And a number of senior players

 

[frggr]

I'm struggling to think of another club that has made even *one* decision in finals as bad as the ones on this list. I genuinely think if one were to draw up a list of the five worst decisions made by club match committees in finals since 2012, every entry on the list would be a Geelong-related one.

The MC seems to save their worst for September. It's pretty galling.

Cotchin kicking into the wind

 

[Lyttelton Ranger]

It's the fact that literally ALL the ingredients from previous finals losses were there that made this so demoralising.

Unnecessary, self-defeating, galaxybrain selection decision by Scott that backfires spectacularly? Check.
Atrocious first quarter leaving us chasing the game the entire match? Check.
Constant fumbling from the entire side? Check.
Normally reliable set shots choking and missing easy shots? Check.
Slaughtered in the ruck? Check.
Hawkins having a down game? Check.
Killed on the outside? Check.
Endless directionless long bombs inside 50? Check.
Normally composed players suddenly becoming a panicky mess? Check.
Inexplicable moments of bizarre clownishness (eg defenders spoiling goalward directly to an opponent, players running in to one another, etc)? Check.
Brilliant but ultimately futile performance from one of Selwood or Dangerfield? Check.
Desperate, doomed-to-failure decision to throw Harry Taylor forward? Check.
Final term comeback resulting in a full time margin that's way more flattering than we deserve? Check.

How many times have we seen this *exact same script* with all the exact same elements?

Ugh.

Agree with pretty much all of those observations. I'd also add, Ratagolea flying for 20 marking contests and clunking none of them - CHECK!

 

[ShaunWDT]

Lack of outside run killed us tonight, we got absolutely slaughtered on the outside, Ruckman doesn't affect any of that.

 

[Strange Cat]

It's the media who's been banging on about it and still banging on about it based on them asking questions in the press conference

They are trying to create a story from it, and even when Scott responds with "I've said all I have to say on that matter", they still continue to ask

The AFL

The media

The opposition supporters

They all hate us , how much more shit can we all put up with...the club doesn’t even listen to us

Why bother anymore

 

[Mahlepi]

this board lacks objectivity

bews gets smashed, but in everygame moc looks lost at times and noone mentions a thing
next week we need to play parsons as atkins is not up to it
and consider taylor forward to create a contest