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Preview R1: Changes for 2025
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Yep bang on
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You need speed as well to put pressure on the opposition and to break away, look at our 3 recruits.
You need at least 1 midfielder with power, good old ma. Breaking through the front of stoppages puts a lot of pressure on oppo to defend, even if the delivery isn't elite.
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Sholl basically doubled his career goals this season - and from a scoreboard impact and average possession point of view he compares nicely with Blake Acres and Ed Langdon (both highly regarded)
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But we’ve already got our class midfielders according to you. Dowling and Jones.
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There are 3 mids in the 1st round that fit that bill Sam Lalor who is very good by foot and hand, Sid Draper who can be a little hit of miss by foot at times and Bo Allan who is probably the most gifted athletically of the 3 but could tidy up his kicking somewhat. All 3 are excellent defensively, Lalor and Allan both more versatile than Draper.
Sholl isn't one of the best wings in the league. But he doesn't have to be to play wing for the Crows. He just has to be one of the 2 best wings at the Crows. I like Hinge at half back, not wing, but here are the other options:
But as you have brought up the other "wings" (McCluggage and Guldon also go inside, which helps with the disposals stat):
Sholl doesn't look to be at the bottom of that group. As a wing in a team that lost a lot of games, I'm not surprised he has more r50's than i50's.
I think you'll find it very hard to find me saying that anywhere.
There's a big gap between regular contributor and class midfield.
Almost as big as the one between your ears.
Sholl is right at the bottom of that group with a whole lot of room between him and the next guy. Who do you think he's better than?
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Some posters get a fixed view of players & refuse to change their mind despite a player improving their performance.
Sholl was easily our best & most consistent wingman last season. Given we usually rotate at least 3 players through the wings, it's very likely he will be 1 of the 3, even with our recruits.
Jones isn’t even a regular contributor.
A word of advice, when you decide to make personal digs at people because of their opinions, you lose all credibility. Be better.
I won't be taking advice from you, but thanks
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It's going to be long off season..
It's not March already ??
Better than all the Adelaide boys plus Jordon and Fletcher. Below Guldon, Daicos and McCluggage. Surprisingly stacks up OK against (the ageing) Sidebottom.
On what (objective) basis would you have Jordon or Fletcher above Sholl? Sholl gets more of it, more metres, more i/r50's, more goals and more score involvements.
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No, they're not. Wings are as irrelevant as rucks when it comes to squad building. If you have a great one, happy days, you're getting production where others aren't. However, teams can and will get success running mediocre wingers.
As Floating Doughnut line breaking midfielders are the key to a good side, but I would also like to throw in gun half back flankers, a good key forward and a gun small forward.
Oh my… Sholl is better than James Jordan - one of the game’s leading lockdown players - and Jaspa Fletcher, the 1st round pick star who walked into the best side in the comp and has a grand final and a premiership to his name?
Surely this is an alternate messed up Big Footy universe where Milera is garbage to be delisted and Lachie Sholl is a star. Maybe if I can find my way back to the real world, we didn't finish bottom 4 this year.
I think you may have misunderstood the role of a wingman. Which probably explains the Sholl hate.
Sholl is a purely outside player that works up and down the ground creating transition.
He's better at that role than Jordan and Fletcher. Lockdown craft is not a key skill for a wingman. And I suspect that the parts of his game you like is not the uncontested stuff.
Fletcher is a kid. He's not supposed to be as good as a mature player (yet).
Again, on what OBJECTIVE basis would you have Jordon or Fletcher over Sholl as a WINGMAN?
Also happy to just agree to disagree here. I'm not a massive Sholl fan, but just don't get the hate. Personally, I would love Cumming and Nank to make the wings their own this year.
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It's not objective to think Murphy is AFL standard.
No, that would be delusional.It's not objective to think Murphy is AFL standard.
Hate is a bit dramatic, I just don’t think he’s best 22 and surprised that’s so controversial given the improvements to our list. And you can give the patronising ‘think you may have misunderstood the role of a wingman’ crap a miss; you don’t know more about football than me because you think a player is better than I do.
Sholl is uncompetitive in the air and on the ground, as well as being a broken cog in our transition game where he gives almost 1 in 4 disposals directly to the opposition. If you think he’s a better player than James Jordan and Jaspa Fletcher then understand you are in the vast minority competition wide.
There could be season ending injuries to the top 100 small forwards in the comp in round by round 1 and he still wouldn't make the remaining top 50 small forwards to play through the year.
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