Rd 1 2010

[Bonz]

I'd have Hanners in there somehow, perhaps over Barlow?

From all reports Barlow is really tearing it up on the track and with an extra pre-season in him I expect him to explode next year.

But I would expect Malceski to be in the team from round one next year especially if he has a strong pre-season.

We have lots of depth for the first time in years (Its just going to be a huge headache for selectors)

I am not sure if were going to be playing heaps of youngsters from round one next year, From round one next year I would be expecting us to play the best possible team, And is Hanners and Meredith in our strongest 22?

 

[J_Moore]

Ed's problem wasn't a lack of athleticism, fitness or skill, though. I'm not sure if what he lacked this year can be acquired in a pre-season.

 

[SM]

We have lots of depth for the first time in years (Its just going to be a huge headache for selectors)

Hrmm...

B: Bevan,

LRT, Mattner
HB: Malceski, C. Bolton, Richards
C: Bird, McVeigh, Jack
HF: O'Keefe, Hall, J. Bolton
F: Veszpremi, Grundy, Moore
R: Jolly, Goodes, Kirk
I/C: Currie, White, Buchanan, Crouch/Shaw/Ablett

EMG: 2 of Crouch/Shaw/Ablett, Barlow

****. I'm still struggling to fit all the players I like in, even after our retirements and injuries. Depth a big plus.

Here is my team: It looks like a good team especially because i could not find room for Vez in the starting 22. There is a good chance he will play but i am not sure who to leave out for him. God we have great depth this year.

b: Richards C.Bolton Crouch
hb: Malceski Grundy Mattner
c: Goodes Kirk Shaw
hf: J.Bolton Buchanan O'Keefe
f: Moore Hall Bevan
foll: Jolly Mcveigh Jack
int: White Bird Ablett

LRT
em: Vezspremi

Both are posts I've plucked from this thread's 2009 relative. We may think the depth is good, but...

 

[legend166]

Ed's problem wasn't a lack of athleticism, fitness or skill, though. I'm not sure if what he lacked this year can be acquired in a pre-season.

Exactly.

Unless he's standing in a boxing ring taking hits to the head all day without flinching, I don't care how many KMs he's running.

 

[RobbieK]

From all reports Barlow is really tearing it up on the track and with an extra pre-season in him I expect him to explode next year.

I'd like to see it, but I'm not holding my breath.

I think we definitely saw more to like out of Hannebury and Meredith last season than we did out of Barlow.

 

[MF]

I'm predicting a breakout year for Barlow. He's approaching that 40-50 game mark where players are expected to take the next step, as Grundy did last season.

 

[TheMase]

I'm predicting a breakout year for Barlow. He's approaching that 40-50 game mark where players are expected to take the next step, as Grundy did last season.

I agree with this. I reckon 2010 will be a big year for Barlow.

 

[kira]

i remain a big fan of Barlow's, but i don't envisage 2010 being a breakout year for him

unlike with Grundy, i feel the coaching panel has mismanaged Barlow's development..... Grundy was played out in defence regardless of his form, or his panache to play out in the forward line

Barlow is 22, has 25 games experience..... and no one would have a real clue as to what position he plays

personally i feel he may need a season to be persisted in the one position, and only then can he fully flourish at AFL level

as a sidenote.... Barlow was BOG on the sand dunes circuit yesterday

 

[RobbieK]

i remain a big fan of Barlow's, but i don't envisage 2010 being a breakout year for him

unlike with Grundy, i feel the coaching panel has mismanaged Barlow's development..... Grundy was played out in defence regardless of his form, or his panache to play out in the forward line

Barlow is 22, has 25 games experience..... and no one would have a real clue as to what position he plays

personally i feel he may need a season to be persisted in the one position, and only then can he fully flourish at AFL level

as a sidenote.... Barlow was BOG on the sand dunes circuit yesterday

I agree with this completely.

Barlow needs to be given a set position and left there for the entire season if he is to develop and "roaming Goodes-like winger" is not my idea of a set position.

The issue is our squad right now - in defence there would be Bolton, LRT, Grundy and Richards ahead of him in key position, in the forwards White, Goodes and almost definitely Bradshaw. It is hard to see where he would fit in.

 

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[BarneyBent]

I agree with this completely.

Barlow needs to be given a set position and left there for the entire season if he is to develop and "roaming Goodes-like winger" is not my idea of a set position.

The issue is our squad right now - in defence there would be Bolton, LRT, Grundy and Richards ahead of him in key position, in the forwards White, Goodes and almost definitely Bradshaw. It is hard to see where he would fit in.

I reckon he could play as a HFF. Or even just as a winger. A set position doesn't have to be a key position. There's a difference between roaming Goodes-style winger (in which he plays bloody everywhere!) and standard winger. Put him on the wing, and let him use his speed (he's actually bloody quick for a big man when he turns it on) and skills to pump it forward.

 

[MF]

It could be that the coaching staff have been waiting for him to gain a little more experience and game time before giving him a set position, again, as was the case with Grundy last year.

The obvious position for him is on a wing but from what I could tell that's where he has basically been played so far and it's not exactly a set position these days, especially with our style of game.

 

[RobbieK]

I reckon he could play as a HFF. Or even just as a winger. A set position doesn't have to be a key position. There's a difference between roaming Goodes-style winger (in which he plays bloody everywhere!) and standard winger. Put him on the wing, and let him use his speed (he's actually bloody quick for a big man when he turns it on) and skills to pump it forward.

There isn't really any such thing as a "standard winger" these days - it is just another spot on the midfield rotation, particularly at the SCG where most play comes off the half back line and completely by-passes the wing. And anyway, winger is basically what he has been doing so far, and it hasn't been working, at least not from my perspective.

I leading 3rd/4th option in the forward or half forward line probably is the best fit, but I wouldn't mind trying him out, at least in pre-season, as a key defender - he should have the body and speed to match most 2nd or 3rd talls. I do think that he needs to be somewhere where he is using his height and his instructions are limited to either:

a. Lead and Present.

or

b. Stick to him and don't let him get a touch.

Make his role completely simple, completely clear, and let him try to fullfil his duties. If he can manage, great, if he can't, then I think his time is limited.

 

[CaptainChardonnay]

Barlow is a spud. Happy to be proven wrong but I hope he likes Canberra. I get the feeling he'll be seeing a lot of it next year.

 

[SM]

No offence, but you're the guy who rubbished White... not very reliable with your 'hunches'.

 

[Swans120]

Dunno about Barlow, for about a month after the middle of the season he looked really good and all of a sudden was looking great off of HB. He got showed up as a defender one on one but his rebound and delivery was really good.

I agree that he needs to be given a position and be left there to learn and develop. But the thing is, we have a lot of other players who can play whatever position better and dont need to learn necessarily to play that position, rather need to develop as young players etc. If our depth wasnt as strong as it will be this year, he could be given time to settle into a position in the 1's.

Anyway i think he'll start in the 2's unless he has a particularly outstanding NAB cup.

 

[swans16]

Have you seen Barlow's kicks? He kicks 50m-65m spears to the player's chest. He kicks really hard and low.

 

[Hyphenator]

For sure Barlow is a fantastic kick if he can use his height, speed and endurance to get the pill a bit more he could be a real asset kicking inside 50. So for mine the best spot for him would be HFF running up onto the wing. Give him the spot round one and leave him there whatever happens for 10 rounds and let him get comfortable and confident.

 

[BarneyBent]

Have you seen Barlow's kicks? He kicks 50m-65m spears to the player's chest. He kicks really hard and low.

One of the best kicks in the team, who is also capable of butchering the ball unbelievably badly. I think he does it when he doesn't kick through the ball. In other words, he's not backing himself to hit the target, doesn't want to **** up, so just takes the foot off. Craig Bird does it as well, more often but less dramatically. He doesn't have the best record for hitting targets by foot, but one thing I've noticed is that when he misses, it's rarely too high/far or wide, but almost always because it falls short, because he doesn't kick through it. When going on instinct, on the run, and/or going for goal, he kicks through it and his skills are actually generally very good.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Barlow needs to have a chat with this man.

No, it's not Guy Pearce.

 

[the_slurpee_man]

Barlow needs to have a chat with this man.

No, it's not Guy Pearce.

Are you sure Barlow needs that DA, i heard after the 2006 final loss, Bazza seeked help from Anthony Robbins..... didnt work out so welll ....

 

[RobbieK]

No, Barlow needs to chat to this guy:

A bit tough on him, perhaps...

 

[AG]

A bit tough, yeah.

With Kennelly back, picking a lineup is near impossible. If Kennelly returns to his best, then someone like Mattner could miss out.

 

[bloods01]

A bit tough, yeah.

With Kennelly back, picking a lineup is near impossible. If Kennelly returns to his best, then someone like Mattner could miss out.

Surely you're not serious? Mattner miss out? Barring injury or suspension, Mattner will never be left out of the Swans line up.

 

[AG]

Surely you're not serious? Mattner miss out? Barring injury or suspension, Mattner will never be left out of the Swans line up.

I am being serious. Shaw, Malceski, Kennelly and Mattner all offer roughly the same style of football to the team. With all of them at their best, Mattner is 4th in line. Injury problems will probably still give Mal and Kennelly problems but if everyone is fit, Shaw is the only certainty based on last seasons form.


B:??? - LRT - ???
HB: Shaw - Bolton - ???
C: O'Keefe - Kirk - ???
HF: Jack - Goodes ???
F: White - Bradshaw - ???
R: Seaby - McVeigh - Bolton
INT: Mumford - ??? - ??? - ???

Certainies are named, all the other spots are up for grabs imo.