Autopsy Roast & Toast - Round 2 v Collingwood & changes for GWS Rd 3

Best Players v Collingwood

  • Toby Nankervis

    Votes: 46 20.6%
  • Dion Prestia

    Votes: 5 2.2%
  • Kane Lambert

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Nathan Broad

    Votes: 51 22.9%
  • David Astbury

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Dylan Grimes

    Votes: 120 53.8%
  • Nick Vlastuin

    Votes: 66 29.6%
  • Oleg Markov

    Votes: 13 5.8%
  • Jayden Short

    Votes: 31 13.9%
  • Shane Edwards

    Votes: 86 38.6%
  • Trent Cotchin

    Votes: 87 39.0%
  • Kamdyn McIntosh

    Votes: 83 37.2%
  • Daniel Rioli

    Votes: 6 2.7%
  • Dan Butler

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • Jack Graham

    Votes: 18 8.1%
  • Jack Riewoldt

    Votes: 11 4.9%
  • Dustin Martin

    Votes: 11 4.9%
  • Tom Lynch

    Votes: 93 41.7%
  • Jason Castagna

    Votes: 5 2.2%
  • Maverick Weller

    Votes: 17 7.6%
  • Jack Higgins

    Votes: 21 9.4%
  • Brandon Ellis

    Votes: 26 11.7%

  • Total voters
    223
  • Poll closed .

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Hope your right.
He has lost the hunger atm.
Last year he got up for the big games, just went through the motions against the lesser teams.
Thought he would come out tonight and thrive on the big stage after what happened in the Prelim. Couldn’t have been more wrong.

usually only plays like that against dud sides where we can cruise and still win

something is up

dimmer has led the fellas through this whole thing. he needs to get back to doing waht he does best and that's getting a whole group of young men invested in playing for him. he's never been the best gameplan coach but he got our entire group truly invested in winning the flag in 2017. with rance and jiewoldt missing the rest of the season it's time dimmer's skills shine again. he needs to bring in 5-6 noobs and win us another flag. we can still do this
 

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this game made me madder than all 3 of our elim final losses. we played like shit and the umps ripped our holes apart until we couldn't take any more and bled out. i don't understand how they just chipped the ball around in their backline then scored easy goals down the middle. we had no gameplan tonight
 
George Butters & Dan are down the chain for me in regards to dropping.

Starved of opportunity with the shit our midfield delivered... when they could get their hands on the ball.

Weller Markov Ellis need to come out (at the very least Weller and Markov and give Ellis a go as the only flanker)

1x ball winner and 1x athletic medium or taller player. Too short and too outside all through the centre tonight.
 
Lol nice to see we’re already at the throwing the baby out with the bath water stage of the melts.

I’m not worried yet. I’ll worry when we’re 1 3 after Port Adelaide.

We’ve still got time to fix things up.

One thing I will say, Dimma can we be an emotional team again please? That’s what won us the premiership in 2017.
 
The St Kilda drubbing and Pies loss last year were completely different, we lost both in the 1st qrt. We were in with a chance until they kicked past 22 points in the last quarter this game.

For the record i thought we were going to lose before the game anyway, i didn't think we were going to adjust without Rance 2nd game in without him. Like Edwards said in the hakftime talk, the keeping off football wasn't hurting us it was when they went down the corridor with speed. Most of which resulted by turnover because we lacked a second option (reiwoldt/balta) to kick to a contest.
When we were going well we would get it to a contest in the forward line and hold it there or get it out of bounds and set up.
Tonight we bombed it in, the cut it of and either rebounded or chipped around to keep it off us.
 

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mate we were stuffed way before that. the coaches stuborness and lack of willingness to change the defensive structures stuffed us from the start big time..

Yep, should have played man on man to bring it negate their possession game, but we didn't have the height around the ground and Reiwodlt wouldn't have been able to compete in contests. It's a testament to Jack that he stayed on to play a rucking role.

A fit Jack, and Balta would have at least allowed that to be an option in the 2nd half after Edwards kicked that goal to put us only 5 points behind
 
We need someone in defence who is calm and can negotiate traffic. I don't know if Baker has played back but he looks very assured when the ball is around him. And certainly won't take three grabs to pick up a groundball; won't hack kick it and won't handball it a metre to someone standing stiil next to him.
 
Wow haven't had to do this for a while now LOL

Roast: Damien Hardwick

You got owned mate, at the selection table and also out coached.

Grundy killed us in the Prelim so what do you do? Think Nankervis can do it all by himself again. Terrible decision.

Collingwood came with a plan and controlled the game from the first quarter to the final siren yet you let it happen the whole time.

You took away any option to help out our backline, Grimes cant do it all himself and you only had to look at how stuffed he was in the last quarter.

Pull your head out of your arse Dimma and learn from tonight after all its only round 2
This.
 
You’re joking....

We may be looking at a 100+ loss if that’s true. Our depth is just not good enough.

weller ellis markov menadue aren’t good enough, yes that’s proven

balta, garth, egg, stack, ross, rcd, cj?

the sides that everyone stared around in wonder and asked how they stayed “up” for so long? they identified and blooded their class kids while most of their premiership side was intact

we should try it or we will bottom out
 
With Rance and Riewoldt out we will no longer be able to carry all the role players like Butler, Castagna, Graham, Macintosh, Ellis, Weller, Markov, etc.

Not looking forward to playing GWS.
MacIntosh held his own tonight. All the others I agree with, would like to wrong about Graham though. Would like to see him in the guts getting the ball out more, but not sure if he is up to it.
 

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