Yeah I sort of hoping that we'll see all of Riewoldt, Joey, Gwilt, Gilbert, Ray, Armitage, Steven, McEvoy play that little bit better , rather than find a young player suddenly step up to fill the Goddard/Gram shoes.
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Yeah I sort of hoping that we'll see all of Riewoldt, Joey, Gwilt, Gilbert, Ray, Armitage, Steven, McEvoy play that little bit better , rather than find a young player suddenly step up to fill the Goddard/Gram shoes.
Yep, I don't expect any of the younger ones to step up to the level Gram and Goddard played last season by any means (this year), so it's up to those that didn't play their best footy last year, for whatever reason (eg. injury, or form) to help bridge that gap and actually take us past it, to propel us forward.
There really are a lot who can step it up a notch or two this year, like all those you mentioned. Dal is another who can step it up significantly on what he produced last year and Fisher will hopefully play a lot more footy, as another example.
This is why I'm certain that we can improve this year, in spite of losing Gram and Goddard, as long as we have that hunger/mojo/maniac back, tighten up the game plan and stay generally fit and well.
There really are a lot who can step it up a notch or two this year, like all those you mentioned. Dal is another who can step it up significantly on what he produced last year and Fisher will hopefully play a lot more footy, as another example.
This is why I'm certain that we can improve this year, in spite of losing Gram and Goddard, as long as we have that hunger/mojo/maniac back, tighten up the game plan and stay generally fit and well.
I guess it's a combo of Cripps/Raph/Peake that leave one vacated spot?
Just under 3/4 of a spot. I don't think we'll have much trouble at all covering for the 15 games they played between them (Peake played just R1), especially since Cripps struggled so much in his games early in the year. He barely touched it in a few of those games, so picking almost anyone would be an upgrade on those returns.
Fisher and Gwilt would have been out for 3/4 wouldnt they?
Ha, they missed exactly 15 games between them (7 and 8). TDL could very easily give us what Cripps gave us and a fair bit more.
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After watching the Nab Cup tonight it may not be wise to play to many talls/marking forwards in the humid muck. Shorter and quicker players would be best.
My 22 would not include Kozi, Lee or Stanley. Big boy and Hickey could get a run.
Watters should make sure there is skills training on any and every wet day at Linen House for the next few weeks to prepare for the humid muck. Wet ball will be guaranteed.
We will need quicks with big tanks to prevail up there.
My 22 would not include Kozi, Lee or Stanley. Big boy and Hickey could get a run.
Watters should make sure there is skills training on any and every wet day at Linen House for the next few weeks to prepare for the humid muck. Wet ball will be guaranteed.
We will need quicks with big tanks to prevail up there.
That's a good point, CTD. Our "mosquito-fleet" ought to have a field day up there.
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Alright I've now done a updated version of Saints and Zebras sides. Note that I didnt include any of the emergencies in Zebras side.
ST KILDA’S BEST 22
B: Jarryn Geary, Sam Fisher, Tom Simpkin
HB: James Gwilt, Sean Dempster, Arryn Siposs
C: Leigh Montagna, Lenny Hayes, Nick Dal Santo
HF: Adam Schneider, Nick Riewoldt, Rhys Stanley
F: Ahmed Saad, Beau Maister, Stephen Milne
R: Ben McEvoy, David Armitage, Jack Steven
INT: Sam Gilbert, Jack Newnes, Terry Milera
SUB: Tom Ledger
EMG: Tom Hickey, Farren Ray, Dylan Roberton
VFL SENIORS
B: Cameron Shenton, Beau Dowler, Jason Blake
HB: Nathan Wright, Jackson Ferguson, Marcus Marigliani
C: Adam Cockie, Seb Ross, Myke Cook
HF: Sam Dunell, Tom Lee, Trent Dennis-Lane
F: Chris Michaliades, Justin Koschitzke, Darren Minchington
R: Hamish Shepheard, Clint Jones, Tom Curren
INT: Jay Lever, Josh Saunders, Jimmy Webster, Tim Mavric, Anthony Soriano
ST KILDA’S BEST 22
B: Jarryn Geary, Sam Fisher, Tom Simpkin
HB: James Gwilt, Sean Dempster, Arryn Siposs
C: Leigh Montagna, Lenny Hayes, Nick Dal Santo
HF: Adam Schneider, Nick Riewoldt, Rhys Stanley
F: Ahmed Saad, Beau Maister, Stephen Milne
R: Ben McEvoy, David Armitage, Jack Steven
INT: Sam Gilbert, Jack Newnes, Terry Milera
SUB: Tom Ledger
EMG: Tom Hickey, Farren Ray, Dylan Roberton
VFL SENIORS
B: Cameron Shenton, Beau Dowler, Jason Blake
HB: Nathan Wright, Jackson Ferguson, Marcus Marigliani
C: Adam Cockie, Seb Ross, Myke Cook
HF: Sam Dunell, Tom Lee, Trent Dennis-Lane
F: Chris Michaliades, Justin Koschitzke, Darren Minchington
R: Hamish Shepheard, Clint Jones, Tom Curren
INT: Jay Lever, Josh Saunders, Jimmy Webster, Tim Mavric, Anthony Soriano
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I completely agree with the Saints 22, but just wondering where does White sit in regards to his injury recovery? I thought that he would be in the Sandy seniors team.
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Only just resumed full training so not sure how far off he will be. But I actually forgot about him, I knew I had forgotten a forward but couldn't for life me work out who it was! Haha
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(glad to see you corrected yourself while I was busy making that, Thunda...)
Given the lack of depth in our midfield and the fact that on current form and output his is clearly in our best 22, then I think Ray has to play, at least early on.
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Haha yea I copied it from old copy I had and didn't even think about changing his name!!!
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I like the look of your side. My only change is to swap Hickey for Maister. I still think Hickey has to get a run on the bench. Has all the tricks that Big Boy doesn't so they are the perfect couple. It gives us another option to drop back in defence and help out our undersized backs. I would have Stanley at FF or CHF - no Maister and start Milera. Newnes has the poise we need in the backline so would like to see more of him down there. His pace is a concern however so I see him as a midfielder long term. Gram was shocking last year so no loss there other than a loss of leg speed overall. BJ at 70% (his output last year) is still better than many blokes on our list so he will be genuinely missed and hard to replace this year. Sippo to play that role but hopefully we are patient with him. It took BJ 5 years so Sippo has a few more up his sleeve to improve.
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Whilst I'd have Dunell as the sub, your team looks really well balanced (a fit Gwilt makes a world of difference to the mobility of the back 6).
If Rhys or Macca don't play 22, or if Rhys has to stay out of the ruck for whatever reason, we have a strong option in Hickey.
Ray incredibly stiff (possibly could play instead of Milera for more midfield run in the absence of CJ, who will most likely get games this year, with Siposs able to play forward if needed)
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Yea Ray stiff to miss out. He'd be in round 1 side due to Joey missing. Just not sure where he fits in, I think the 'mosquito fleet' is going to be vital to our season and Milera just gives us that x-factor over Ray.
I tossed up between Ray & Ledger as sub but went Ledger as I want to see us use that position to blood the kids and give them taste of AFL.
I like that we realistically have 26-27 players that could easily be in our "best 22".
I tossed up between Ray & Ledger as sub but went Ledger as I want to see us use that position to blood the kids and give them taste of AFL.
I like that we realistically have 26-27 players that could easily be in our "best 22".
The only problem, and it's not a long-term problem, is that once you get past the 26-27 player mark, you're into 1st and 2nd year players only, and only Newnes and Ross stand out among that group right now. Lever is long-term, Markworth is injured, and the 1st year players are not ready yet.
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If you take thunda's squad of 25 - and add Dunell, Jones, Blake, Koschitzke, Lee and TDL and there's 31 players (with Curren getting close to the mark).
Not bad considering the 2009 car accident (I shouldn't look, but I do).
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I like it, and if you swap Ledger for Ray I think that's the team we'll most likely see. If it were up to me I'd have Dunell as the sub but I think your team is pretty much spot on. There's really no reason why we shouldn't make the finals this year.
Apart from the 21 listed by StK thunda ( not counting Ledge ) there is:
Blake, Hickey, Ray, Jones, Kosi, TDL, Roberton So that's 28.
Then we have Dunnel, Lee, Curran, Fergason, Ledge, and Ross who are on the cusp. ( so 34 ).
If push came to shove ( desperate measures )
Webster , Shenton, Murdoch, Wright, Saunders, Minch.
Probably not an option.
Markworth Injured. White, very raw and coming off an injury. Lever ( probably only if we had several other talls go down ) not sure if he's in front of Pierce ( he weighs more than Lever ). Staley.
Right now we have a lot of inexperience, but once we get a few VFL games into these kids we may see some of them start to shine.
Most critical player - Sam Fisher, his backup is Blake, then Roberton/Lee/Wilkes, then Lever.
It's pretty amazing that we have 40 who could legitimately play this year and that I don't think they'd be out of their depth. When was the last time that was the case, or anywhere near it? 
It's pretty amazing that we have 40 who could legitimately play this year and that I don't think they'd be out of their depth. When was the last time that was the case, or anywhere near it?
While I think Shenton could play without being smashed to pieces, I'm not convinced he wouldn't be out of his depth.
Who knows with guys like Murdoch , Wright, and Saunders, once they adjust to playing with the big boys.
We do seem to have reasonably good depth coverage though.
If we lost three tall forwards, we could still play 2 and a medium.
Rucks still a bit light on after McEvoy and Hickey, luckily Ben is a fairly durable type ( compare to what they've got at Geelong - West Injured - drafted 2 years before McEvoy, 41gams vs 69 Simpson, injured again, McIntosh Injured.... again - Is Orren still on their list? ).
But we still have Blake and Kosi I guess ( god help us ).
All the talk out of the club of late has been that those three have the bodies to be able to play this year, so I'm expecting to see some of Wright and Saunders and possibly Murdoch. Having said that, they are probably way down the pecking order right at the moment, so they'll have to really impress to get a string of games. I liked a lot of what I saw from Wright and Saunders the other day, even though they didn't get much of it. When re-watching the games over again you could see just how tenacious they both are and how much they put in, so signs are very good for them.
