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the guy is a cockaroach...he will come back after a nuclear apocalypse to coach us
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the guy is a cockaroach...he will come back after a nuclear apocalypse to coach us
I would still be extremely surprised to see anything happen after a loss to Richmond. It would be seen as capitulating to the 'outside noise' rather than 'holding steadfast to our plans'. Also, at this point, what real purpose does it server to put Carr in for the rest of the season when most of us here are saying we'll struggle to win 1 or 2 games? So Carr comes in and as expected, he wins 1... maybe 2 games. What did we learn about Carr that helps us decide if he's the man for the future? Not a lot. It's not a long time to turn things around and change a sides mentality. What if he comes in and we win enough to make finals? Is it a sugar hit? Is it sustainable? The only outcome that provides any degree of confidence would be if he came in and we made it to, and won a prelim at minimum. Anything else gives you bugger all. As much as we all want Ken gone, this season is basically shot. Why put the next 5-10 years at risk and compromise your next choice? We only just extended his contract. For us to make that call based on 6 months of non-finals data when we have 10+ years already makes the administration look incompetent.Johnny, as I said last night, a lost Saturday night against favourites for the wooden spoon Richmond is a monumental loss of all proportions where there is no turning back. As I said last night, all hell with break loose, and I don’t mean that figuratively, quite literally, all hell with break loose to the point that booing at the Brisbane game with seem like child’s play.
The lack of acknowledgement was deafening after the Bulldogs game when in Kanes own words, we put our midfield up against theirs and blitzed them because they didn't tag anyone. Yet... Kanes excuse for bashing Bevo and protecting Ken, is that their list is so much better than ours. But in a head to head showdown, we blitzed them? You can't have it both ways. He then went on to criticize Bevo for not tagging us. So why wouldn't the coach of our team be responsible for the same tactical failures we exhibit? Like our almost decade-long persistence with a failed game plan, especially our forward set up. We continually revert to the same failed setups.It's hilarious really the very obvious sidestepping Kane does when it comes to Port and Ken.
Critisizing the game-plan but not mentioning the head coach js just *chefs kiss
So quite literally this season we've heard,
-poor goal kicking and conversion (players faults)
-poor on field attitude and "wanting it enough" (players faults)
-list and talent levels not contender worthy (CD/Cripps fault)
-game plan out dated and failing (game-plans fault?)
Ken can't kick it for them, he can't plan it for them, he can't study the opposition for them, he can't develop talent for them and he can't make them want it/believe in themselves.
Again, I'd love for someone in the media to explain exactly what Ken is responsible for?
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I don't know where people get the confidence to say he's gone before or at the end of the season. I have zero confidence we are sacking this guy at all. I would be legitimately surprised if anyone else but Ken is coach next season. The miniscule of hope I have is that Kosch has been unusually quiet this season.
The crowd may hit 30k, weather dependent, and everyone will be bored shitless out of their brains, whilst having to listening to that bald announcer yell into the mic at every break.
This is way over the top, what was said from J Brown, Bucks and Co about JHF wasn't even that bad in the first place. And Ken basically took JHF off to cool off, which was the correct move and then sat alongside him and had a conversation. I'm really confused trying to work out what the problem is with that?This infuriates me. If dickhead, look at me Hinkley didn't make a big deal of it on the bench and in the presser, no-one would be commenting. He could be spoken to like an adult behind closed doors.
With the utmost respect the mods should ban you if the we miss finals and don't sack Hinkley.Well then you should prepare yourself to be "legitimately surprised."
You have conversations respectfully. And you don't then badmouth them in the media.This is way over the top, what was said from J Brown, Bucks and Co about JHF wasn't even that bad in the first place. And Ken basically took JHF off to cool off, which was the correct move and then sat alongside him and had a conversation. I'm really confused trying to work out what the problem is with that?
It's what all the coaches on the bench do, they talk to the players and that is the main reason they are on the bench and not in the coaches box.
If he is meant to only have conversations with his players behind closed doors, what the hell is he even doing on the bench?
I want to see Kenny gone too but this in an overreaction.
This sounds promising.Well then you should prepare yourself to be "legitimately surprised."
Ream them behind closed doors if need be, but always publicly support and present a united front.You have conversations respectfully. And you don't then badmouth them in the media.
The conversation almost look too respectful for my liking, i would've preferred a coach that went harder on him in that moment personally. Most coaches would've been pissed off with what JHF did.You have conversations respectfully. And you don't then badmouth them in the media.
Well well well
If this doesn't tell you our club is one the nose over here in Melbourne then nothing will.
Found in Melbourne Terminal 4 this morning.
Someone didn't have the heart to throw it straight into the bin.
Not sure if they left it there for someone else to decide what to do with it, as a gift for someone or more realistically to punish the fool who takes it
Maybe it's the clubs new membership strategy. Lord knows images of the coach won't work and there's no recent successes to sell.
The. End
I would still be extremely surprised to see anything happen after a loss to Richmond. It would be seen as capitulating to the 'outside noise' rather than 'holding steadfast to our plans'. Also, at this point, what real purpose does it server to put Carr in for the rest of the season when most of us here are saying we'll struggle to win 1 or 2 games? So Carr comes in and as expected, he wins 1... maybe 2 games. What did we learn about Carr that helps us decide if he's the man for the future? Not a lot. It's not a long time to turn things around and change a sides mentality. What if he comes in and we win enough to make finals? Is it a sugar hit? Is it sustainable? The only outcome that provides any degree of confidence would be if he came in and we made it to, and won a prelim at minimum. Anything else gives you bugger all. As much as we all want Ken gone, this season is basically shot. Why put the next 5-10 years at risk and compromise your next choice? We only just extended his contract. For us to make that call based on 6 months of non-finals data when we have 10+ years already makes the administration look incompetent.
It's over. We had to win vs Gold Coast to keep ourselves alive and we f'd it up.
Go look at the draw or play around with the ladder predictor. We are stuffed.
We aren't losing to Richmond. Besides anything else, they have a number 1 draft pick to play for.
This sounds promising.
Only concern, is there anything he can do to save himself now?