Opinion Sack Hinkley 11 - Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest

[longdonkey]

One thing about Hinkley that kills me is how much he manifests the reality of opposition sides beating us in a certain space.

He said it pre game and banged on about it post game, how good GCs intercept markers are and were. You could clearly see how much that was in our players heads and how much our ball movement going forward was just disgraceful, errors and poor decisions all over the place as we got to that last kick and basically played straight into their hands.

We do this all the time. We go in with this paranoia about the oppositions strengths and we manifest it into occurring. We are so friggin mentally weak and so poorly coached, that rather than thinking about how they'll need to stop us, we think about how we have to avoid their stopping of us. It's a completely wrong mentality, and realistically is probably highlighted by the fact we basically play 3 defensive forwards every week. I mean who else in the comp stacks their forward line full of players, playing defensive roles. It's ridiculous.

Do you think that he is saying .....don't do this, but then doesn't offer up any viable alternatives because to me in the first half it was back to if in doubt bomb it to Dixon. At half time we seemed to look more for lead ups but there was + 1 defender and Dixon and Lord appear not to be able to do lead up very well and Finlayson was sometimes in the ruck, sometimes back, sometimes anonymous

 

[KrispyKremeMullanikka]

Surely playing finals isn't enough. 3 wins out of 6 from here can get us finals. I would've thought we'd need to make a GF at least, which isn't happening.

I think that would fulfil the board expectations. Which it shouldn’t.

 

[Kenny_Powers]

The fact that going on a deep finals run could save him, to me means that's virtually the most likely scenario, because daddy and his boys always do just enough to keep his job.

The realist in me says he's gone once its mathematically impossible and the club moves on the back of mass supporter dissatisfaction.

The optimist says we lose to Richmond on the back of the loudest boos yet, and the club moves.




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[tribey]

i still think we play finals, lose the elimination final and part ways with Hinkley.

If we make the eight there’s no way they’ve got the croutons to do that, regardless of what the ultimate outcome is.

At most we might get a Parkin-Brittain situation where Hinkley is coach in name only while Carr does everything.

 

[b0ydman Jr]

Have to win 4 of the last 6, so Richmond, Melbourne, Adelaide, Fremantle.

when I played with the ladder predictor, seems that 3 wins is the absolute minimum, given a few favorable results happen.

 

[Willsy10]

Which games eo you have us winning?

Richmond, Crows and we will jag one of the others and that will be enough. We will finish 7th or 8th and lose an away elimination to the Giants or Freo is my guess.

 

[b0ydman Jr]

Richmond, Crows and we will jag one of the others and that will be enough. We will finish 7th or 8th and lose an away elimination to the Giants or Freo is my guess.

I had us piping out the demons at the G, which made us finish 7th

 

[TeeKray]

None of the 5 games that follow this weekend's game present as the type of game we would ever win, even in recent seasons when we've stacked a relatively large number of wins. We would need to win at least 2 but probably 3 of these fixtures to make it. We're not making it.

 

[JayPea14]

inb4 injuries saving this clowns arse

 

[Atch]

Senator Kenneth Palpatine

 

[scotty13]

Oh well how we be expected to make finals now given arguably the best forward in the competition is out injured for the rest of the season.

 

[PAFC Since 1870]

Looking forward to hearing some more booing on the weekend!

 

[Duckimus Prime]

To answer your points. A loss against Richmond is the lowest point that you can get for a team that was expected to make the 8 and more so the top 4. Currently, the happy clappers are on Ken's side; a lost to Richmond, and he’s lost them. The media can say the club is capitulating to the ‘outside noise’ all they like, but they know that the writing is on the wall for Ken. You need to do your due diligence, so we’ll try Josh sitting in the big chair. We need to put Josh in the hot seat; we won’t know how to set ourselves up for the future otherwise.

We lost to Brisbane (17th) and Carlton (18th) in 2015.

Losing to Richmond this week wouldn't even be the first time Ken has rolled out a failure against the Wooden spooner.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

None of the 5 games that follow this weekend's game present as the type of game we would ever win, even in recent seasons when we've stacked a relatively large number of wins. We would need to win at least 2 but probably 3 of these fixtures to make it. We're not making it.

The Showdown does. Feels a lot like Robbie Gray's farewell at the end of 2022.

 

[KrispyKremeMullanikka]

We lost to Brisbane (17th) and Carlton (18th) in 2015.

Losing to Richmond this week wouldn't even be the first time Ken has rolled out a failure against the Wooden spooner.

This time the ramifications are different and massive for him.

 

[Steve Dore]

One thing about Hinkley that kills me is how much he manifests the reality of opposition sides beating us in a certain space.
...

Hinkley put it in the player's minds last Thursday that we were going to lose.

"We will need to be at our absolute best. .... It would be a massive win for us [if by some miracle we actually win]."

A successful coach instills a belief in their players that they can win. Not old loser Daddy Donuts though.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

If they don't sack him, it will mean one of two things:
1) they go on a deep finals run
2) they deviate from their current plan

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Or 3) people were being duplicitous about the plan to kick the can along the road and deflect criticism.

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[EskimoPAFC]

Oh well how we be expected to make finals now given arguably the best forward in the competition is out injured for the rest of the season.

Shit McEntee got injured?

 

[MrPlow]

Fellas, I want Hinkley gone just as much as the next person, but we aren’t losing to Richmond at home

 

[Steve Dore]

Fellas, I want Hinkley gone just as much as the next person, but we aren’t losing to Richmond at home

Hinkley: Hold my beer.*




*I realise he is a teetotaler.

 

[longdonkey]

If Finlayson has been playing injured which his form might suggest he has been, is this another case of a late season capitulation with cooked players. Learnings Donuts Learnings.

 

[Cam1870]

So, if this is the case, and Cox is not interested in the Eagles gig, does this mean Carr will be on their radar? Will this spook Port into making a call on Hinkley?

The only call port will be spooked into making is extending his bloody contract again...
"Kochy...it's the weagles they're after me. What's that Donna..you want me to hand over the phone so you can yell at him again?"
Next minute...Ken's here till 2028

 

[philreich]

Before the Showdown when he said ‘history tells us you have to be at your absolute best to get a result from these games [while risking Rozee on a 6-day hammy]’.

You can literally see our poor cherubs filling their dacks with self-doubt the instant they realise they’re most certainly not ‘bringing their best’.

How do you reckon the fringe players felt after the 2023 semi final, when the great man proclaimed in his presser, "If we'd played the younger players, we would have lost by even more." Way to dent a kid's confidence!!!

 

[PA88]

If we lose to Richmond, then I hope our secret service isn't checking roof tops!

Imagine the booing ... losing to Richmond ... an experience to be heard ... Hinkley will wait down in the bunker until all the lights are switched off.

But we will not lose to Richmond. Nah, surely not.

 

[PA88]

I hate Hinkley's "we'll have to be at our absolute best". It ****s with players' minds. So dumb.