They're so embarassing. The whole Ken era is embarassing & it's also fk'n infuriating.
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Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 12 - Finals Are Scary
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"Every time they have a good win, they fail to back it up next week - that tells me they don't play for Kenny"
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Imagine the fury if media outlets started referring to Pat Cummins as Australias best ever cricketer. Its not funny or an opinion you can be allowed to have, its disgusting and disrespectful.
Even if we look at AFL level, he's our fourth best coach.
Even if we look at AFL level, he's our fourth best coach.
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Koch hugging players. Bloody hell. They're not kids for goodness sakes, and they're not his kids.
As president I'd be fuming at another nothing performance in a final. Another failure. Another wasted year of 12.
But this guy ... 'ooohhh I'll give you a cuddle because it's not your fault boys ... bad Sydney bad Sydney ... daddy will fix it'
Who's going to bring the toughness back into this club?
As president I'd be fuming at another nothing performance in a final. Another failure. Another wasted year of 12.
But this guy ... 'ooohhh I'll give you a cuddle because it's not your fault boys ... bad Sydney bad Sydney ... daddy will fix it'
Who's going to bring the toughness back into this club?
A client of mine went organic in the vineyard, which takes time to be certified. The vines etc… went into detox with no chemicals for a couple of years and then bounced back with new vigour.
Imagine the detox and reshaping of the club that will happen once numb nuts is removed, there will be a transition period to eradicate Hinkleys tenure, and I’m guessing we’ll see some player movement.
I’m guessing there are players at the club who would be wanting change big time.
Imagine the detox and reshaping of the club that will happen once numb nuts is removed, there will be a transition period to eradicate Hinkleys tenure, and I’m guessing we’ll see some player movement.
I’m guessing there are players at the club who would be wanting change big time.
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No not every single person does see it. Koch is eternally incapable of seeing that Ken can't get it done. He's a dumbass at football. He is undeserving of his position. He is a big reason why this club is a day care centre. He has been the danger all along. There's others like him ... thus a club divided.
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For one, voluntary positions such as board members should have people who are Port Adelaide supporters.
They should also be able to watch a lot of the games.
She should never have been on the board of this club.
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I'll need meds if these wokes get replaced by another bunch of wokes!
If Hinkley is dumped, that main dirtbag Koch overlooking this roger-ing of the club could not possibly be allowed to continue for one further day.
Told youse! As predictable as the sun setting in the west.
Don't be surprised if they go past us next year.
Kenny is starting to rub off on you. You might need a sabbatical or leeching.
* no. That was deliberate.
The following would occur if the club try to invoke the succession plan with Josh. Hinkley will:
a) threaten to walk
b) tell Donna to tell David to shut up
c) pretend to cry
d) get manager to leak fake interest from other clubs
e) ring Gerard / Caro / Kane
f) get Dixon to insult the members
g) get Connor to once again profess their undying love
h) all of the above
a) threaten to walk
b) tell Donna to tell David to shut up
c) pretend to cry
d) get manager to leak fake interest from other clubs
e) ring Gerard / Caro / Kane
f) get Dixon to insult the members
g) get Connor to once again profess their undying love
h) all of the above
Our performances was embarrassing compared to that game.
But they are two teams that are driven to play in a GF not simply get to place of comfort.
The question we need to ask is simple. How have we improved? Players come and go. You discover some, trade some in, trade some out... But in terms of our strategy and tactics, what has improved? Further, what has even changed? We've thrown multiple footy generations at this same game plan now since 2014. We've had multiple assistant coaches. If it's not Ken, are you telling me that different players and different coaches are independently deciding to play the same failed game plan? Also, how good can this game plan be if in spite of filling every "missing piece of the puzzle" it still falls short woefully in finals in the same way?
Not only are there the tactical failures, but he's consistently failed to motivate the team beyond the threat of him loosing his job. This tells me the players are happy with the status quo. This is mental as much as it is tactical.
Not only are there the tactical failures, but he's consistently failed to motivate the team beyond the threat of him loosing his job. This tells me the players are happy with the status quo. This is mental as much as it is tactical.
The only reason that Hinkley feels he's an easy target is because the idiots that employ him have been incompetent and should have let him go in 2017.Ken Hinkley had this to say after Friday night's loss...
But it's not one person. This is a whole-of-club thing that goes on," Hinkley said.
"If we had got through tonight, it wouldn't have been me, and if we didn't get through tonight, it'd be us.
"I do understand that, as the head coach, you cop the brunt of that and I'm OK with copping the brunt.
"But the reality is, you can't do this without a full club. You just can't."
Chris De Silva whoever he is, is right to ask what Hinkley meant by that last 'without a full club comment'. Does Hinkley mean that he feels he doesn't have everyone's support? Are there cracks in the relationship between the Coach and the Club hierarchy? Or is this simply Ken's flak deflection mechanism kicking in as usual? To defect flak Hinkley will launch into philosophical comments divorced from the reality of the situation. All too often his football philosophy is not matched by the team's performance on the field. Hinkley tries to hard to give the impression that he is the thinking person's coach a veneer that is not matched by results as is evident in a game plan that is as inflexible as it is deficient when it comes to winning when it counts.
In this latest pearl of wisdom Hinkley seems to be highlighting the fact that one person alone, meaning Ken Hinkley, is not responsible for Port's repeated failures. That argument neglects the fact that he alone is, or should be, the chief tactician and the person responsible for the development and implementation of a game plan that gets results. To hide behind the group responsibility thing is passing the buck.
Premiership-hunting Port Adelaide stuck between a rock and a hard place
Port Adelaide's powerbrokers face a tough decision after another finals exist at the preliminary final stage. Unlocking the path to premiership glory may not be as simple as punting its best-ever coach.www.abc.net.au
PS: I am not sure where the 'best ever coach' bit in the link above comes from. Chocco Williams won an AFL Premiership with Port. In terms of Premiership success Ken Hinkley is the most unsuccessful coach in PAFC and AFL history.
Then he wouldn't be a target, and we would have a better coach.
I see now the media protection racket is leading with the deficiencies in our list being our weakness. So, the same players that can win 60% of minor round games aren't good enough for finals against the same teams?
I can't fathom how anyone could have watched our "game plan" on Friday and concluded it was the fault of the players.
I can't fathom how anyone could have watched our "game plan" on Friday and concluded it was the fault of the players.
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Singled out BZT, Rategolea, Evans and Narkle, as if every premiership team has a star lineup.
Ridiculous argument, not every player on your list are stars, they play their role and reliably fill in gaps in a good system. Our club continually bring in these recruits hoping they can cheat the system come finals and outperform a broken coaching philosophy.
Frampton was a late GF callup and successfully blanketed Andrews, he is given one role and sticks to it. Leave the gltiz and flash in the hands of your Daicos types.
Brought up Boaks age, and whilst his form is poor I'd ask why Pendlebury was one of the best players in the Pies flag last year. Does he maybe know his exact role, is well coached, knows when to leave his man and read the play? Boak was over doing some of the contests in the PF, playing on and putting himself under unnecessary pressure. Never seen Pendlebury take the game on and be brazen like that.
How bombing it long into the forward line all night was ever going to work is beyond me. You have Long mire and the Swans assistants in the coaching box seeing everything play out, completely invested. Cut to Ken siding on the pine staring into space and basically doing everything except not coaching.
Ridiculous argument, not every player on your list are stars, they play their role and reliably fill in gaps in a good system. Our club continually bring in these recruits hoping they can cheat the system come finals and outperform a broken coaching philosophy.
Frampton was a late GF callup and successfully blanketed Andrews, he is given one role and sticks to it. Leave the gltiz and flash in the hands of your Daicos types.
Brought up Boaks age, and whilst his form is poor I'd ask why Pendlebury was one of the best players in the Pies flag last year. Does he maybe know his exact role, is well coached, knows when to leave his man and read the play? Boak was over doing some of the contests in the PF, playing on and putting himself under unnecessary pressure. Never seen Pendlebury take the game on and be brazen like that.
How bombing it long into the forward line all night was ever going to work is beyond me. You have Long mire and the Swans assistants in the coaching box seeing everything play out, completely invested. Cut to Ken siding on the pine staring into space and basically doing everything except not coaching.
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Journos who say he’s not responsible for the repeated failures don’t know the difference between responsible and accountable
“He can’t kick it for them” - no, but he’s accountable if they can’t kick it.
As you say, he’s responsible for the game plan, for developing proper leadership, for skill development. The players are then responsible for carrying it out - and he’s accountable if they don’t.
Amazes me how whole corporate boards - including yours, apparently - don’t know the difference between the two
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