Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 12 - Finals Are Scary

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I'm all for Sack Hinkley but there is a part of me that feels that if Hinkley coaches in 2025 that it could become the greatest, most horrible $h!tshow. We've had Boaky giving away goals to the opposition in the prelim, Dixon fried beyond recognition, Lycett bandaged with gaffer tape, McKenzie cooked and the captain Jonas playing so badly he gets dropped.

The key ingredients are:

the most hated coach who has long overstated his welcome and has zero respect
a vitriolic fanbase baying for blood
a budding coach in the wings
the AFL media championing Kenny Average
the 'inevitable' takeover

There are six to seven years of unbridled resentment built up in the fanbase that needs to find an expression.
The qualities of the Creed have been $h@t on for too long.
The pressure will be enormous and if they start poorly, it will get ugly fast.
Booing could be the norm.
It could be the funnest send off ever.

Agree on everything here, but personally I'm not really deriving any satisfaction from the "told you so" moments anymore. I'm just jaded by it now.

We all predicted 2022 would be a disaster after the 2021 Prelim debacle wasn't addressed - we were right.

We all predicted the 2023 finals would be a disaster after the premature Ken extension - we were right.

We all predicted Port would inevitably crumble when it mattered in 2024 while us fans were copping bullets from all and sundry in the wake of BooGate - we were right.

We are always vindicated, but nothing changes.
 

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I think that there has been decided.

If there's no decision, then it's because there's a push for outing him.

The easiest decision is to keep Hinkley. Anything different from that is a sign that things aren't going smoothly in the club.

Now, there's another way of looking at this. Without Tredrea, Hinkley would have gotten an extension. He hasn't been sacked, but he is about to coach his last year of contract.

He did this only ONCE, in 2020; but even then an 8th place would have automatically extended his contract for another year.

We may not have gotten what we want, but the club leadership hasn't gotten what they want either.

That's something...
Another top 4 finish and there's a chance of another extension.
 
We are gonna get a Koch speech at the B&F gloating about finishing 2nd in the H&A and the importance of stability.
“We have shown we are a very good club, not a great club” Mention stability, chuck in a couple of references to being a tough competition and you need some luck. The True Believers will lap it up. It is so sad and depressing watching the values this club was built on continue to be eroded over time.
 
Another top 4 finish and there's a chance of another extension.

There would be a push, most certainly.

But I have no idea how the vote in the committee would go. We need more “Tredreas” in there.
 
This is my one and only consolation, if things do get ugly enough more than Kens head may roll......which works very well for me


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Caro and Kane are almost telling Ken to leave with their comments. They know what’s coming for him next year if we just roll along as normal.

Wait until Dew says ‘nah’ made a call to Schoey…
 
Caro and Kane are almost telling Ken to leave with their comments. They know what’s coming for him next year if we just roll along as normal.

Wait until Dew says ‘nah’ made a call to Schoey…

It just doesn't really make sense to roll into next year without a minimum of a succession announcement for 2025.

Hiding him away and cruising into next season, with the high likelihood things will get pretty sour should we drop a few in typical KH style, is just plain poor governance.

I can't even really work out why they would choose that route? Unless there's a genuine feeling that he could go on past 25 with a good season, even if it's just a 1 year extension on top?

Just can't figure it out.

The whole situation is just very strange, like I've never heard of another professional sporting team declare their love, not respect or admiration, but actual love, so much for a head coach.

It's genuinely F"$&@ng strange, you'd think some head honchos would perhaps issue a directive to tone that talk down a little, but if anything they seem to herald it.

The more this all goes on, the more I believe theres a strategy to focus on, and increase the base of happy clappers, and subsequently tax the living daylights out of them....whilst in the process slowly separate and remove the old legion supporters who are legitimately demanding.

Another few years and there will be a whole new generation who have only ever known Ken & Koch and the PAFC circa 2013.




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It's incredibly frustrating. Surely we'd set a threshold of what Hinkley needed to do to remain employed prior to the finals.

It feels like if the decision is whether to extend Hinkley early and unnecessarily they're super trigger happy and if the decision is whether he should be sacked or not, they're asleep at the wheel.

If they'd dragged their feet like this with the 2023 extension he'd be gone by now. Instead we have to listen to deadshits telling us that Hinkley has a contract and we should honour it.
Why exactly are we obligated to honour the contract? All the pieces are in place for Carr to take over - he doesn't need Hinkley holding his hand any longer.
 
Just accept that the B&F will be another confirmation that Hinkley will be coach next year and that the club had a very successful 2024 and supporters should be grateful

14 clubs would be very jealous of our daddy donuts and the unprecedented stability of making a FOURTH prelim final in just 12 years!!
 

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I'm all for Sack Hinkley but there is a part of me that feels that if Hinkley coaches in 2025 that it could become the greatest, most horrible $h!tshow. We've had Boaky giving away goals to the opposition in the prelim, Dixon fried beyond recognition, Lycett bandaged with gaffer tape, McKenzie cooked and the captain Jonas playing so badly he gets dropped.

The key ingredients are:

the most hated coach who has long overstated his welcome and has zero respect
a vitriolic fanbase baying for blood
a budding coach in the wings
the AFL media championing Kenny Average
the 'inevitable' takeover

There are six to seven years of unbridled resentment built up in the fanbase that needs to find an expression.
The qualities of the Creed have been $h@t on for too long.
The pressure will be enormous and if they start poorly, it will get ugly fast.
Booing could be the norm.
It could be the funnest send off ever.
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“We have shown we are a very good club, not a great club” Mention stability, chuck in a couple of references to being a tough competition and you need some luck. The True Believers will lap it up. It is so sad and depressing watching the values this club was built on continue to be eroded over time.
"Younger team than Hawthorn" about to get an absolute workout in KochHead's B&F speech.
 
“We have shown we are a very good club, not a great club” Mention stability, chuck in a couple of references to being a tough competition and you need some luck. The True Believers will lap it up. It is so sad and depressing watching the values this club was built on continue to be eroded over time.
Back in the good old days, the message to the opposition was, "We ARE the tough competition", and "you make your own luck." Now it's all negative talk, and that negativity filters through to the players.
 
Another top 4 finish and there's a chance of another extension.

I reckon this is still possible. I reckon they would all go again.

Although they were excited this year believing this was the flag year, all abject dismal finals flops are diminished because of Kenny's good blokeness and loving relationship he has with the players. If they are in fact discussing and contemplating moving Ken on, I bet it's not the results that are the sticking point for a strong decision, but because they can't fathom the future without good bloke Ken.
 
I reckon this is still possible. I reckon they would all go again.

Although they were excited this year believing this was the flag year, all abject dismal finals flops are diminished because of Kenny's good blokeness and loving relationship he has with the players. If they are in fact discussing and contemplating moving Ken on, I bet it's not the results that are the sticking point for a strong decision, but because they can't fathom the future without good bloke Ken.

It’s a great workplace. Who cares about the results?
 
I'm all for Sack Hinkley but there is a part of me that feels that if Hinkley coaches in 2025 that it could become the greatest, most horrible $h!tshow. We've had Boaky giving away goals to the opposition in the prelim, Dixon fried beyond recognition, Lycett bandaged with gaffer tape, McKenzie cooked and the captain Jonas playing so badly he gets dropped.

The key ingredients are:

the most hated coach who has long overstated his welcome and has zero respect
a vitriolic fanbase baying for blood
a budding coach in the wings
the AFL media championing Kenny Average
the 'inevitable' takeover

There are six to seven years of unbridled resentment built up in the fanbase that needs to find an expression.
The qualities of the Creed have been $h@t on for too long.
The pressure will be enormous and if they start poorly, it will get ugly fast.
Booing could be the norm.
It could be the funnest send off ever.
Yep, you’ve convinced me. Keep the campaigner on board, I genuinely want to see how bad it can get and I can’t wait to contribute to it.
 
A succession plan would suck balls. Players get confused not knowing whom to listen to, Carr still can't really implement his changes in game plan, it's a state of limbo and another year wasted.
This fukcer doesn't deserve a succession plan, he's achieved nothing.
Just sack him...jeezus!
 

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