Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 12 - Finals Are Scary

[Peninsula Boy]

Tom Harley (of Sydney) said he feels sorry for the fans on SEN Vic with Kane and went on to say their motto is "we exist to enrich their lives"...SO so far from what PAFC has been attempting to achieve the last 7 years minimum. Achieving to have the opportunity to "get lucky" in finals

I'm just checking with you. Did Harley said this about Port Adelaide?

 

[rogerjames]

“We have shown we are a very good club, not a great club” Mention stability, chuck in a couple of references to being a tough competition and you need some luck. The True Believers will lap it up. It is so sad and depressing watching the values this club was built on continue to be eroded over time.

We have shown we are a very WEAK club who has continually been used by the Afl to showcase their latest stance. No club has been treated worse. And this has been enabled by our club. As a recent example of this Houston getting 5 weeks was outrageous. The number of weeks he was getting was determined by ensuring he wasn't playing in a GF. The whole competition is manipulated.

 

[TeeKray]

It's hard to like anything about the leadership of the club. Chairman, CEO, Football Manager, Coach and Captain all come across as smug and self satisfied despite having never achieved anything in the game, many of them with tenures that now extend beyond a decade. There doesn't appear to be a strong determination or appetite for success, they appear quite content with where they're at and resigned to the fact that it's a little too difficult to do any better. This comes across really, really clearly and is a massive turn off for the dedicated supporter.

 

[Kenny_Powers]

It's hard to like anything about the leadership of the club. Chairman, CEO, Football Manager, Coach and Captain all come across as smug and self satisfied despite having never achieved anything in the game, many of them with tenures that now extend beyond a decade. There doesn't appear to be a strong determination or appetite for success, they appear quite content with where they're at and resigned to the fact that it's a little too difficult to do any better. This comes across really, really clearly and is a massive turn off for the dedicated supporter.

Summed up perfectly!


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[PowerLil]

It's hard to like anything about the leadership of the club. Chairman, CEO, Football Manager, Coach and Captain all come across as smug and self satisfied despite having never achieved anything in the game, many of them with tenures that now extend beyond a decade. There doesn't appear to be a strong determination or appetite for success, they appear quite content with where they're at and resigned to the fact that it's a little too difficult to do any better. This comes across really, really clearly and is a massive turn off for the dedicated supporter.

Makes me furious pretty much all the time. I wax and wane between giving the club away totally to "I'm not letting the bastards get away with this!" I'm tired.

 

[Nelso]

This will be me next year watching this rabble of a club self implode.

 

[rogerjames]

It just doesn't really make sense to roll into next year without a minimum of a succession announcement for 2025.

Hiding him away and cruising into next season, with the high likelihood things will get pretty sour should we drop a few in typical KH style, is just plain poor governance.

I can't even really work out why they would choose that route? Unless there's a genuine feeling that he could go on past 25 with a good season, even if it's just a 1 year extension on top?

Just can't figure it out.

The whole situation is just very strange, like I've never heard of another professional sporting team declare their love, not respect or admiration, but actual love, so much for a head coach.

It's genuinely F"$&@ng strange, you'd think some head honchos would perhaps issue a directive to tone that talk down a little, but if anything they seem to herald it.

The more this all goes on, the more I believe theres a strategy to focus on, and increase the base of happy clappers, and subsequently tax the living daylights out of them....whilst in the process slowly separate and remove the old legion supporters who are legitimately demanding.

Another few years and there will be a whole new generation who have only ever known Ken & Koch and the PAFC circa 2013.




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This is so true & has been really evident at the AGMs for several years now. I generally walk out with 2 key takes:

1. The club has NO ambition to win a flag.
2. The club is waiting for the supporters that followed the Magpies to die off or alternatively, is happy to piss them off so much they leave. Hence the 'Its not the Sanfl anymore' put down they regularly reel out.

Imo, all the push from the fans about the prison bars etc hasn't helped. They've been able to dismiss the 'white noise' by saying we have unrealistic expectations tied to the good old days. When in reality, without a club history the continual finals failures of our club would be up in lights.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I kinda get the feeling that Hinkley 2025 could have some of the bizarrest and unintentionally comedic moments and keep on keeping on.

It's a powder keg of smug, immoral leadership versus the hopes of the fans being graped for too long.

I think we are going to need a 1000 bottles of baby oil for the year.

 

[dirty2]

If we don't remove Hinkley Koch and the rest.... Then we will just become st Kilda MK II

 

[elbarton]

I'm just checking with you. Did Harley said this about Port Adelaide?

Expecting a poster on the Port board to provide vital context for an interview that no one else heard? You’ve gone mad brah

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Expecting a poster on the Port board to provide vital context in order to understand an interview that not everyone was listening to? You’ve gone mad brah

I couldn't believe what was said in the interview

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Expecting a poster on the Port board to provide vital context for an interview that no one else heard? You’ve gone mad brah

I know. I know. Considering Harley referenced 'we exist to win premiership' I assume it was about us but I had to be sure because I don't mind Harley and this would move him up a rung.

 

[JHF1870]

It's hard to like anything about the leadership of the club. Chairman, CEO, Football Manager, Coach and Captain all come across as smug and self satisfied despite having never achieved anything in the game, many of them with tenures that now extend beyond a decade. There doesn't appear to be a strong determination or appetite for success, they appear quite content with where they're at and resigned to the fact that it's a little too difficult to do any better. This comes across really, really clearly and is a massive turn off for the dedicated supporter.

Could agree with everyone except Connor. The rest have all had plenty of time to give us something. Connor is still young, fresh in captaincy and WILL get better.

 

[PA88]

You're right, sadly, although I'm not sure our players are all behind him. Certainly didn't look that way at the prelim.

The players got up to save Kenny a straight sets exit.

 

[Bump Bailey]

It's hard to like anything about the leadership of the club. Chairman, CEO, Football Manager, Coach and Captain all come across as smug and self satisfied despite having never achieved anything in the game, many of them with tenures that now extend beyond a decade. There doesn't appear to be a strong determination or appetite for success, they appear quite content with where they're at and resigned to the fact that it's a little too difficult to do any better. This comes across really, really clearly and is a massive turn off for the dedicated supporter.

Imagine the LA Lakers finishing in the top seedings four years out of five then bombing out in the play-offs, or Real Madrid getting eliminated from the UCL knock-out stages before the Final 4/5 years.

There's absolutely no way key people in the management structure would survive, nor would they be blindsided by their sacking. They'd expect it.

I guess by their actions the club is self-identifying as a minnow, which is exactly how Koch has publicly painted us since 2013. #LittleOldPort

 

[tribey]

Makes me furious pretty much all the time. I wax and wane between giving the club away totally to "I'm not letting the bastards get away with this!" I'm tired.

“Lil Coffey. Like the drink.”

 

[dirty2]

You're right, sadly, although I'm not sure our players are all behind him. Certainly didn't look that way at the prelim.

Well.. the players with half a brain who want to win wouldn't be behind him.

 

[chachi11]

We went from after the GF we should know to crickets....
FML

 

[Thunderer]

If we don't remove Hinkley Koch and the rest.... Then we will just become st Kilda MK II

We WILL just become? I think we are way past that point and the AFL sees as such, even probably worse, because we are a little battler club from Alberton. It's not the SANFL anymore you know.

 

[dirty2]

We WILL just become? I think we are way past that point and the AFL sees as such, even probably worse, because we are a little battler club from Alberton. It's not the SANFL anymore you know.

Can't argue with that

 

[PA88]

………………. PORT / OPPO
• 2013EF: 24y 83d / 25y 25d
• 2013SF: 24y 89d / 26y 325d
• 2014EF: 24y 257d / 25y 66d
• 2014SF: 24y 263d / 26y 57d
• 2014PF: 24y 270d / 26y 289d
• 2017EF: 24y 171d / 27y 11d
• 2020QF: 26y 131d / 28y 139d
• 2020PF: 26y 145d / 27y 35d
• 2021QF: 26y 8d / 28y 134d
• 2021PF: 26y 23d / 26y 94d
• 2023QF: 25y 269d / 26y 181d
• 2023SF: 26y 82d / 26y 66d
• 2024QF: 25y 315d / 27y 135d
• 2024SF: 25y 37d / 25y 48d
• 2024PF: 25y 300d / 26y 190d

We’ve been younger in every single final of the Hinkley Era bar the 2023 Semi against GWS (older by 16 days).

Every single Port team of the 2020-2024 September failboat has been older than the 2013-2014 teams that provided Uncle Ken with his golden ticket.

I don't know if it refers to the ages of the 22 that take the field, but doesn't matters, it's an insignificant difference anyway.

On the one hand, they celebrate it as nod towards a promising future to look forward to and on the other hand use it as an excuse for failing.

Longevity of gaslighting their members.

 

[tribey]

I don't know if it refers to the ages of the 22 that take the field, but doesn't matters, it's an insignificant difference anyway.

All the data is from AFL Tables, selected team versus selected team, game by game.

 

[TazD]

I like to think the club is trying to negotiate a payout but Ken and his agent have gone to ground and aren't answering their phones.

 

[philreich]

They are telling him to leave because Ken is setting it up so he 'walks' at the B&F instead of being sacked

I can honestly live with that. Yeah it'd be all about him until the very end, but at least I could wake up on Saturday morning, knowing he's no longer our coach.

 

[Fizzler]

This apprehensiveness to change by some fans has to be a symptom of how few senior coaches we’ve had in the club’s history. 35 coaches if you don’t count caretakers (Stephen Williams, Phil Walsh, Garry Hocking and Alan Richardson). In the nearly 30 years we’ve been in the AFL it’s only been Jack for 2 years, Choco for over a decade, Primus for about 2 years and Ken for 12 years.
From 1950 to 1996 it was pretty much just Fos, Motley, Cahill and Ebert and that was fine considering we were winning. Those guys were getting the job done.
I think people have simply forgotten about how cyclical the nature of head coaches should be. We all know this, but the casual fan doesn’t because coach changes are so rare in their little Port obsessed bubble. We all know stability alone doesn’t bring success, and that it should be the other way around. That’s what others need to be reminded of.