Unofficial Preview Sack Hinkley 2: Septic Portaloo

[Powerade 08]

I am repeating myself here, but it is very important that our supporters get the message across at the remaining home games. Bring banners and boo like a West Coast crowd.

Make the environment as uncomfortable as possible for everyone involved in this **** up.

If this doesnt happen, there is a very real possibility we are stuck with the for another season.

 

[Trewth]

Buying club merchandise is the sort of thing you do when you feel upbeat about the club. I’d say in the last two years the only thing I’ve bought at the Port Store is a beanie. Back in 2013 and 2014 I was buying stuff left and right.
So basically, boycotting the purchase of club merchandise isn’t a conscious decision to be made, you just don’t buy because you simply feel no enthusiasm to.

In 2014 the merchandise ruled compared to now.

 

[Papa G]

And from a list perspective, they cleaned out deadwood and old guys like Vickery, Chaplin and Deledio while replacing them with Caddy, Prestia and Nankervis — supplementing their prime core of Martin, Cotchin, Riewoldt and Rance.

Port got rid of a pair of 25yos in Polec and Wingard, brought in a pair of declining players on big money in Rockliff and Motlop, and our core of Boak, Gray, Westhoff and Ebert are now 500 years old.

But nah, Peggy O’Neal didn’t fire Dimma so we will win a flag if we just watch the years roll by.

Vanstone used Peggy O'Neil more as a strong woman in football makes strong decision equals success kind of stance. Peggy O'neal isn't making football decisions.

 

[Us against the rest]

We are all talking in circles the only thing that I can see we can do is break Ken, break his resolve and make him decide he's had enough and wants to walk away with fond memories who is welcome to come back any time as a friend of the club

To enable that we need to appeal to the sentiment that he leaves on a good note and that we love him and thank him to leave with a little bit of pride and dignity intact.

The way for us to do that is we should all right a physical letter and post physical letters to the club. if he got 100 letters over a week that said thank you for being our coach you did a great job and we really appreciated what you did but it's time to move on before the tank runs dry, I think it would break him

Example here https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...you-for-all-the-good-you-did-at-pafc.1224201/

Footy clubs are all about $$$$$ these days, so the only real way to get a message through is with membership and attendances.

For some sort of result before the end of season review, not attending is the only way.

Like I said in a previous post, ex players need to get involved if they feel the same way, they need to make noise as we did and KT responded, (unapprecative mob of arse holes)

It's a pity that publicly Tredrea and to a lesser degree Wakelin are the only ones that have spoken out, after all these guys played for the club.

 

[Us against the rest]

Hinkley is now putting himself in front of what is best for the club, so I can only assume this is about money.

I don't want a coach that doesn't put the club, players and members first.

 

[bomberclifford]

I would boycott everything, except your membership.
Keep that active.

Without those membership numbers, we lose traction with sponsors, we lose face with the AFL and put the club at a very real risk of folding.
I'd even say that more people signing up as a members will give us a better opportunity to remove Hinkley.

If you're not a member of the club, but complaining about the coach/CEO/board/etc, then you're no better than the 'Facebook Nuffies' we deride.

 

[Trewth]

I would boycott everything, except your membership.
Keep that active.

Without those membership numbers, we lose traction with sponsors, we lose face with the AFL and put the club at a very real risk of folding.
I'd even say that more people signing up as a members will give us a better opportunity to remove Hinkley.

If you're not a member of the club, but complaining about the coach/CEO/board/etc, then you're no better than the 'Facebook Nuffies' we deride.

Good point, it's made me adjust my previously stated stance.

 

[AdamMarrett]

I would boycott everything, except your membership.
Keep that active.

Without those membership numbers, we lose traction with sponsors, we lose face with the AFL and put the club at a very real risk of folding.
I'd even say that more people signing up as a members will give us a better opportunity to remove Hinkley.

If you're not a member of the club, but complaining about the coach/CEO/board/etc, then you're no better than the 'Facebook Nuffies' we deride.

Great post.

I think that point is lost on some in their disgust with Ken. If people cancel their memberships it won't be long and we'll be back into the abyss again. Better off keeping them so the club can still function, but keep up the emails to the club, not attending games etc as it is slowly but surely getting our message across.

 

[bomberclifford]

Good point, it's made me adjust my previously stated stance.

If we truly want a member run club, we need more members, not less.
That's where our power is.

Once you drop off, you lose your voice.

 

[Alberton Proud]

I did ask this in the 2020 Membership thread but didn't get an answer

If we all retian our memberships but boycott games

How insulated is the club from the financial effects of low attendances through our stadium deal ?

 

[Us against the rest]

I would boycott everything, except your membership.
Keep that active.

Without those membership numbers, we lose traction with sponsors, we lose face with the AFL and put the club at a very real risk of folding.
I'd even say that more people signing up as a members will give us a better opportunity to remove Hinkley.

If you're not a member of the club, but complaining about the coach/CEO/board/etc, then you're no better than the 'Facebook Nuffies' we deride.

It's frustrating because then the club use the membership is increasing line, although I do agree we don't want to hurt the club financially.
Unfortunately clubs are not what they used to be and membership $$$$ is what drives them and what they as a board place on how successful they have been.
So that only leaves not attending and banners like sack the ****er.

Do we really want to be like Melbourne, Freo, Carlton. They dominate the bottom half of the ladder but have healthy membership numbers, at the moment that's exactly what we have become, so in time the only way to make change is hit them where it hurts.

This is what happens when members can't have an active say as far as the board goes.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Someone setup a Back Hinkley thread.

 

[JUSTWORK]

I would boycott everything, except your membership.
Keep that active.

Without those membership numbers, we lose traction with sponsors, we lose face with the AFL and put the club at a very real risk of folding.
I'd even say that more people signing up as a members will give us a better opportunity to remove Hinkley.

If you're not a member of the club, but complaining about the coach/CEO/board/etc, then you're no better than the 'Facebook Nuffies' we deride.

The thing is, the significant threat of another drastic drop in membership, far greater than what we recorded going into this year is what makes keeping Hinkley more expensive then sacking him.

Simply handing over your money and buying another membership is just won’t push them into sacking him. In their eyes it’ll be people being happy with the status quo.

They need to be very aware, it’s sack Hinkley or lose a significant portion of members. Only pulling 27K vs GWS is a good indication people have had enough and won’t be coming back next year unless things change.

If the club won’t listen to the voice of their members, maybe they’ll start to pay attention when people stop handing over their money.

 

[1954]

As has been pointed out before, as bad as kern's coaching has been he didn't give himself that ridiculous extension, which KT aside has Koch's complete lack of competence in being the top banana for a traditional football club written all over it.

I have little doubt that history will show he is/was the biggest clown in what has unfortunately become the Alberton circus!

 

[bomberclifford]

Great post.

I think that point is lost on some in their disgust with Ken. If people cancel their memberships it won't be long and we'll be back into the abyss again. Better off keeping them so the club can still function, but keep up the emails to the club, not attending games etc as it is slowly but surely getting our message across.

Things I know as fact:
— the club has heard, in no uncertain terms, what members think about the co-captain decision
— the club has heard, in no uncertain terms, what members think about the current head coach
— the club has heard, in no uncertain terms, what members think about the current president
— the club is working hard to correct the drop off in memberships
— the club is supportive of member/supporter led campaigns that push the agenda for the club


By all means,
— Boycott SMA catering
— Boycott games
— Boycott Port Store Merch

... but temper that with some action.

Maintain membership, but communicate with the club about concerns.
Get behind the BBTB Campaign and if you head to games, pump this up to everyone around you.
Don't let them off the hook for co-captains
Don't let them off the hook for coach's contract extension
Don't let them off the hook for not standing up for PAFC rights and fair treatment in the AFL

 

[Lockhart Road]

Things I know as fact:
— the club has heard, in no uncertain terms, what members think about the co-captain decision
— the club has heard, in no uncertain terms, what members think about the current head coach
— the club has heard, in no uncertain terms, what members think about the current president
— the club is working hard to correct the drop off in memberships
— the club is supportive of member/supporter led campaigns that push the agenda for the club


By all means,
— Boycott SMA catering
— Boycott games
— Boycott Port Store Merch

... but temper that with some action.

Maintain membership, but communicate with the club about concerns.
Get behind the BBTB Campaign and if you head to games, pump this up to everyone around you.
Don't let them off the hook for co-captains
Don't let them off the hook for coach's contract extension
Don't let them off the hook for not standing up for PAFC rights and fair treatment in the AFL

A Manifesto for the Moment.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Hinkley arriving for work

 

[bomberclifford]

The thing is, the significant threat of another drastic drop in membership, far greater than what we recorded going into this year is what makes keeping Hinkley more expensive then sacking him.

Simply handing over your money and buying another membership is just won’t push them into sacking him. In their eyes it’ll be people being happy with the status quo.

They need to be very aware, it’s sack Hinkley or lose a significant portion of members. Only pulling 27K vs GWS is a good indication people have had enough and won’t be coming back next year unless things change.

If the club won’t listen to the voice of their members, maybe they’ll start to pay attention when people stop handing over their money.

The harsh reality is that Hinkley being our coach in 2020 won't kill the club.
Members dropping off will.


If that's what you want, then go for it.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Hinkley arriving for work

Then ducking out to listen to a race....

 

[Hodges 153!]

Their mentality is literally, “be patient you ungrateful little sh¡ts, dinner’s in the oven, and it’ll be ready when it’s ready!”.

A premiership under Hinkley is inevitable. It might take 10 years. It might take 30. But it will happen. It just will.

If these idiots have their way the club will be dead inside a decade.

My deadset fave was "they've got 150 year celebrations to plan, they don't need the distraction of finding another coach!1!1!111"

HOOOOOOLEY DOOOLEY

 

[bomberclifford]

How insulated is the club from the financial effects of low attendances through our stadium deal ?

As far as I know, we're not insulated from any financial impact for low attendances at games. There will be some financial loss as a result.

However, a reasonably high membership with low attendances, helps make the point that the Port Adelaide Football Club has significant support for it to be a viable stand alone club in the AFL, but that we are currently dissatisfied with the status quo.

 

[bomberclifford]

Someone setup a Back Hinkley thread.

Race 4 at Angle Park?

 

[finbarr]

I think Ken Hinkley simply likes money. His fanaticism for greyhound racing alone would suggest this. Hinkley seems to be quite happy to continue on in a job he’s both not particularly good at, and where a whole lot of people don’t want him there, so long as he continues getting his cheque. He will hold out, in the job if he has to, but I’d say his preference would be a big, fat payout from the club.

Ken cares about Ken, and everyone else can go and get ****ed.

 

[Harlott]

I can't see a sacking/resigning unless we're mathematically out. There's no %100 guarantee that a new coach now will spike our season so they won't risk the egg on their faces if they do pull the trigger and we don't improve anyway.

 

[JUSTWORK]

The harsh reality is that Hinkley being our coach in 2020 won't kill the club.
Members dropping off will.


If that's what you want, then go for it.

The reality is that Hinkley coaching the club next year is what will drive thousands of members away after a year where we a 1Mil short on membership revenue.

Hinkley coaching another wasted year in 2020, which could possibly be Boak and Robbies last year, Miss finals again next year under Hinkley and it’ll get worse again going into 2021.

People have had enough of the same selection BS and losing games the same way every year and missing finals for the same reasons every year.

How many assistants do we need to lose because of Hinkley. He is the problem and nothing is getting better with him here, things will just get worse until he goes.