Opinion Sack Hinkley 5 - Lower The Blinds

[simba_]

Firm belief is good. I like my belief firm.

 

[davesnothere]

****. Now 4 losses would be a disaster in anyones book. Our list is good enough to keep it to another 2 losses. It’s line ball we could go into the showdown with a win there needed for Ken to stay.

 

[Loony Juice]

“Jase [Dunstall], why would Ken Hinkley want to leave when he looks at that list and sees Georgiades, he sees Butters, he sees Rozee… he’s going nowhere”

— Jon Ralph, Fox Footy halftime​

Been going nowhere for ten years, why change

Chasing senility

 

[Us against the rest]

Personally imo I still hold onto the belief that he's gone.

 

[Power Girl]

Personally imo I still hold the belief that he's gone.

I would like to believe this too. However why would he voluntarily go when life is easy he is getting money for jam. Our board are roofless not ruthless so they are not going to move him on.

I am steeling myself up for 2023 with "Kenny" at the helm and me without membership for yet another year. FML

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

I would like to believe this too. However why would he voluntarily go when life is easy he is getting money for jam. Our board are roofless not ruthless so they are not going to move him on.

I am steeling myself up for 2023 with "Kenny" at the helm and me without membership for yet another year. FML

The only thing that will force him out is pressure from the members. It's sure as shit not going to happen from him mates, the players, and the board. We might as well rebadge as the Port Adelaide Greyhound club. Move the HQ out to Angle Park.

 

[TeeKray]

Personally, I can’t tell how much of it is me just ageing out, and how much of it is a disconnect of increasing [footy-]cultural marginalisation.

It’s gotten to the point where if Port found itself in a scenario similar to 2010/11, I’d almost be relieved as the decision would be made for me.

I mean, what’s the point?

We exist seemingly to make sure some smirking blow-in and his family remain employed and to keep the coffers jangling for the SMA, while Koch holds the club in his grip as a wellspring of personal prestige in perpetuity.

Even the players don’t seem particularly fussed about failure, with constant references to how beloved ‘Kenny’ is, and senior players like Ollie responding to the Prelim humiliation with soundbytes like, “it was still a successful year in terms of win/loss”.

Any talk of ambition, accountability or change is met with blatant gaslighting or defensive invitations to go elsewhere - and hordes of boomers, millennial apologists and gen-zedders are 100% onboard with this.

If contemporary and future Port Adelaide’s destiny is to merely be a Big Bashified mediocrity-cog in a money machine that enriches internal individuals and external, openly hostile organisations [‘we shut down the GDV because you’re all p¡ssed-up violent louts”, “no you can’t wear the prisonbar because we say so”], of what benefit is it to me to contribute time and money?

A bit of a tangent but the gentrification of the playing cohort probably adds to the turnoff for a lot of traditional supporters.

Obviously it's not everyone but there's an increasing percentage of players who are all cut from the same cloth - private school, upper middle class, good looking, smarmy young dudes. It's hard to relate to and you can sometimes get the impression playing footy is just a job to them. Port is probably one of the least like this to be fair, some of the other clubs are full of players like this.

It's also why someone like SPP is so beloved and gets voted high in the best by the fans every week. There's an authenticity to him, he's flawed which makes him relatable.

 

[TeeKray]

I would like to believe this too. However why would he voluntarily go when life is easy he is getting money for jam. Our board are roofless not ruthless so they are not going to move him on.

I am steeling myself up for 2023 with "Kenny" at the helm and me without membership for yet another year. FML

I mean if he's smart he'd realise he's coaching for his career next year at Port but if he jumps ship now he'll get a minimum 4 years at GWS regardless of results.

But he's not smart so ...

 

[Thunderer]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fsport%2Fafl%2Fnews%2Fcoaching-moneyball-all-the-latest-news-movement-contracts%2Fnews-story%2F807a1a13b1124e0fcf565cfa77943e77&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=dynamic-cold-control-noscore&V21spcbehaviour=append

Ken Hinkley has been linked to a potential move north given the shaky season of Port Adelaide, but the club and its long-term coach seem to have other ideas.

Jon Ralph | Herald Sun

Port Adelaide and Ken Hinkley are committed to him seeing out his contract for 2023 despite an open coaching market and speculation about a move to Greater Western Sydney.

Hinkley has no interest in entering into a coaching process with the Giants as he attempts to drag the Power into the finals from a rocky 0-5 start to the year.
The 55-year-old has been linked to a potential move given the shaky season of Port Adelaide and a tenure that is about to approach 10 completed seasons.
Hinkley continues to react angrily to suggestions that he might jump ship as he is persistently linked to clubs including GWS.

The Giants have ramped up their coaching search by meeting four-time premiership coach Alastair Clarkson as they prepare to receive a board presentation from caretaker Mark McVeigh.
Port Adelaide chief executive Matthew Richardson’s strong statement that he would also coach out his contract for 2023 is backed by the belief the Power are still in the premiership window next year.
Port Adelaide’s view is that with players like Todd Marshall, Mitch Georgiades, Connor Rozee, Zac Butters and Lachie Jones still to reach their peak they still have a significant upside.

The club’s oldest player Travis Boak will play on given his form next year and Robbie Gray’s excellent showing against Fremantle (21 possessions) means he is likely to also go on into 2023.
As for any coach entering a decade in charge of a club without a premiership Hinkley has polarised the fan base, with some members keen for a change in philosophy.

But there is a genuine belief from the club’s administration and football department that Hinkley has the firm respect of the players and the opportunity to win an elusive flag in 2023.
Richardson has been impressed by Hinkley’s unwavering focus during those dark early rounds when the Power went winless and capacity to bring the side back to finals contention.

He told News Corp last month there was no doubt about Hinkley’s coaching future.
“Ken is our coach and he will be our coach in 2023. He has taken us to the last two preliminary finals and has shown great strength. He is contracted for 2023 and that is not going to change.”
If Hinkley coaches on into 2023 as expected there will be continued scrutiny on him given the expiry of his current contract but when he last coached for his career in 2020 he won a new contract given his team’s performance.

Only a disastrous last third of the season would give the club cause to reconsider but bringing in a new coach like premiership player Adam Kingsley, now at Richmond, would not guarantee immediate success.
Chairman David Koch made clear last week the club had stayed rock-solid despite its early-season issues.
“Football clubs start to worry about coaching and coaching groups when there is fighting among players and coaches and there is a lack of support for each other,” he said.
“There is not one iota of that at Port Adelaide Football Club and there has not been for the whole year.”

So many things wrong with that article and the statements made by the top tier management. I find the following statement by David Koch especially worrying:

Chairman David Koch made clear last week the club had stayed rock-solid despite its early-season issues.
“Football clubs start to worry about coaching and coaching groups when there is fighting among players and coaches and there is a lack of support for each other,” he said.
“There is not one iota of that at Port Adelaide Football Club and there has not been for the whole year.”

Do you really want it to come to that before you make a decision David? You want the players fighting each other, disrespecting the coach, thereby the management, thereby the whole club and whatever it stands for. If that happens, there will not only be a need to replace a coach and rebuild a team, but also to rebuild the culture, (which I suspect is already shot). "There's not one iota of that at the Port Adelaide Football Club and there has not been for the whole year." Does that mean that there has been player infighting previously and you have not addressed the issue at the root?

Please pack your bags David Koch, take Hinkley and Richardson with you. It is apparent that the problem to any progress at this club stems from the top down. There needs to be a clean sweep.

 

[GremioPower]

We are so doomed when this regime ends…

(But it’s a necessary process.)

 

[finbarr]

Personally imo I still hold the belief that he's gone.

Ralph and Co are not rolling out any new quotes, they're just throwing out their own interpretations of old quotes, probably at the behest of "Kenny's" manager. Remember, Ralph has a bit of a history if antagonism towards Port fans on platforms like Twitter, and he knows this topic gets under our skin. I think he's trolling as much as anything else. Looks and reads like a troll to me.
I don't think Hinkley will be coaching Port in 2023.

 

[dirty2]

I'm so sick of this.

 

[Capital Power]

Sweepstake on which member of the White Noise Party starts part 6?

 

[Duck Farmer]

We'll stick fat with him for another year and he'll replay this loyalty by holding Koch to ransom by threatening to walk while parlaying this into another 4 years on more money off the back of getting us to a losing EF.

 

[finbarr]

I'm so sick of this.

The dislike among large swathes of the supporter base has become something of a weeping sore. Everyone knows it, even the media is now discussing it. You really have to question a man who chooses to stick around in that environment.
I don't know aboit others, but if that were me in his position I'd be getting out asap, go find a job somewhere you're welcome as an assistant. The AFL is full of assistant coaches who failed as senior coaches who were run out of their clubs. There's absolutely no shame in returning to the assistant coaching ranks. But this psychopath just hangs around where he's not welcome like a house guest who sleeps on the couch, eats all your food, and doesn't clean the toilet bowl after dropping a particularly foul turd.
Just piss off already. Leon Cameron did the decent thing by GWS. Take a leaf out of his book.

 

[PowerBaz]

I recall as clear as day sitting in my car on the corner of Wakefield and Hutt Street when Richardson said on radio he wasn't going anywhere and was staying at Port.

Next week he was coach of St Kilda.

A week's a long time in footy, the only reason he stays next year as Clarko wasn't interested.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

I recall as clear as day sitting in my car on the corner of Wakefield and Hutt Street when Richardson said on radio he wasn't going anywhere and was staying at Port.

Next week he was coach of St Kilda.

A week's a long time in footy, the only reason he stays next year as Clarko wasn't interested.

Even if Clarkson isn't interested we move on to the next best available candidate.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Even if Clarkson isn't interested we move on to the next best available candidate.

I'm still not even convinced Clarko is best available for our list when you consider the coaches box. If getting Clarko means we get stuck with Bassett, Monty and Cornes because we have to save $ I'd rather go down another path.

He's worth talking to for sure, but so are a lot of people out there.

 

[MrMeaner]

There's that awesome small business, chasing mediocrity mentality from our blow in spiv.

 

[Doctor Feel]

There is no infighting because we got rid of anyone who asked questions lol

 

[bomberclifford]

No infighting amongst coaches?
I guess Schofield just left for no reason and the confrontation before the Prelim, where we inexplicably shat the bed, just didn't happen?

 

[raptalia]

I'm still not even convinced Clarko is best available for our list when you consider the coaches box. If getting Clarko means we get stuck with Bassett, Monty and Cornes because we have to save $ I'd rather go down another path.

He's worth talking to for sure, but so are a lot of people out there.

On top of that Clarkson took a $900,000 payout on the last year of his contract at Hawthorn so he would not come cheaply.

TBH I think talk of Clarkson comes straight out of someone's wish list. I may have missed the others but the only club I know that Clarkson has spoken with is GWS which isn't surprising because they are the only club that officially has a Senior Coaching spot available at this stage. We would have to sack Hinkley before approaching Clarkson.

 

[GoPorts]

I'm still not even convinced Clarko is best available for our list when you consider the coaches box. If getting Clarko means we get stuck with Bassett, Monty and Cornes because we have to save $ I'd rather go down another path.

He's worth talking to for sure, but so are a lot of people out there.

If we got clarko I'd highly doubt he keeps them on. You'd think him choosing his own assistants would be part of the package

 

[MrMeaner]

If you just wish hard enough miracles can come.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

If we got clarko I'd highly doubt he keeps them on. You'd think him choosing his own assistants would be part of the package

Yes you would hope so, but he would have to be bringing on people who are probably willing to work on a lower salary to be in that team due to the amount he would take from the soft cap.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising Clarko at all and would love it if he came to us, but I just think the argument is:
Ken's had 10 years and delivered nothing, so its time to move on and interview the next group of candidates so we can get a fresh start with the guy we think is right for us.

As opposed to:
Let's see if we can get Clarko before making a decision on Ken.