Opinion Sack Hinkley 6 - Kochblocked

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And when Port don’t, Janus will shift the goalposts and claim victory again.

Like that time he said Adelaide would beat Richmond in the 2017 Grand Final by ‘100 points if both sides play to their best’, but then claimed some special “I told you so” knowledge after Rance and friends short-circuited…

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🎶T-T-T-Teddy & Ed Betts.
You mean this post?
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Pretty sure Richmond made it a scrap exactly the way the Bulldogs did against Sydney. I even posted this after Cotchin got off at the tribunal:

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And then just before the game started:

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I'll admit I got the 'they won't be back for quite awhile' bit wrong though :p
 
So, the last four games of the season have now become a referendum

Whilst I also claimed Ken is coaching for his future in this last month, part of me also thinks this is not the way business (Koch) and by de-facto our Football Club runs.

You don't make hire and fire calls based on 4 weeks of a 10-year tenure.

I hope Dittmar and others are right, his papers were stamped long ago. They've squeezed him this year by not investing in assistants to allow the next guy the chance to clean the slate.

These 4 weeks should be immaterial, the nails in to the coffin should have been last years prelim, 0-5 and finally missing the 8.
 
Why do the players think its a good idea to attack fans?

If the players want him as coach so badly then start ****ing winning against top sides. The problem is you campaigners keep choking when it counts and its his job to prepare you which he is clearly failing.
 

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Whilst I also claimed Ken is coaching for his future in this last month, part of me also thinks this is not the way business (Koch) and by de-facto our Football Club runs.

You don't make hire and fire calls based on 4 weeks of a 10-year tenure.

I hope Dittmar and others are right, his papers were stamped long ago. They've squeezed him this year by not investing in assistants to allow the next guy the chance to clean the slate.

These 4 weeks should be immaterial, the nails in to the coffin should have been last years prelim, 0-5 and finally missing the 8.
So they deliberately hamstrung his ability to coach after he made consecutive home prelim finals, when they had just given him an extension to 2023 at the start of last season?

Does that sound at all logical to you?
 


Let me tell you what's going to happen. This way you can prepare yourself.

On the weekend, Port will demolish Collingwood. They will do this because Collingwood is in the top four because of a bottom six fixture and, in spite of what people think, Port would be a top four side if Dixon had played every game of the season. The club will point to this as being proof positive of the connection that the players have with Hinkley, the media will say that beating a top four side away from home proves that Hinkley is the right man for the job. The BigFooty Port forum will protest....you'll probably threaten to not renew your memberships...but in the end, Hinkley will coach Port Adelaide in 2023.

The reason Hinkley will coach in 2023 is the same reason why you think he shouldn't. You're right that people staying away from the club will hurt the club's bottom line and force them to act. But one of the home games remaining this year is against the enemies (points to a picture of Dawson kicking the goal that probably cost us a spot in the finals) of your enemies (points to a photo of Hinkley smiling on the boundary). And while the club can't use injuries and form as an excuse as to why they couldn't get the job done against Melbourne, Fremantle or Geelong - which proves that they probably wouldn't have won the flag this year anyway - sometimes all that is required to get the majority of people onside is the prospect of a complete demolition of Adelaide in the last game of the season.

So, the last four games of the season have now become a referendum, by the players and the supporters who attend the Richmond and Adelaide games, on whether Hinkley should be given an extension that the club didn't have to give him if people had just kept their mouths shut. What do people think is going to happen if we get two 35k+ crowds to the remaining two home games, when we are averaging 27k for the year? The club is going to see the sticker and the discontent as being from an increasingly irrelevant group of supporters on this forum, and marginalise the people who post here even further.

That sticker was a ******* stupid move. And every person who supported it is as ******* dumb as Dixon accuses them of being.

Every Janus post after Ports proves him wrong yet again.

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Port v Glenelg 1982 Preliminary final.

Glenelg 13.12 90
Port 14.5 89

Port coach John Cahill was heckled by many angry supporters and actually grabbed by one angry woman.

How would the old mate DONUTS HINKLEY deal with that.

Probably be happy to have gotten so close

SACK KERNEL FINKLEY

*apologies for the lateness of my Loonyness, I'm away from home visiting
 
I actually think that Ken and the players are vilifying Stickerman more than any AFL club have ever done about actual acts of violence, rape, racist behaviour from their players and fans.

That is disturbing. It is a sticker saying you don't deserve your job. I mean seriously HTFU

Only thing rich people get angry about is there money being threatened
 
This guy really doesn't give a damn about the club, it's traditions or particularly the supporters. He arrogantly stood at the back of the AGM, arms folded then steadfastly refused to answer questions whilst sprouting his rubbish about the merits of co-captains. He doesn't get us, he never has and he never will. Our weak leadership has enabled this entitled nobody.

Has kernel finkley ever treated the supporters with anything more than complete disdain?
 
So they deliberately hamstrung his ability to coach after he made consecutive home prelim finals, when they had just given him an extension to 2023 at the start of last season?

Does that sound at all logical to you?

Yes.

This was Koch post 2017 finals elimination:
“If they’re not prepared; if they’re just playing for us because they love to play AFL, they’re not players that we want.
“If they’re not prepared to win a premiership for this club, we basically don’t want them. Let us know and we’ll trade them.
“It’s not a one-off, it’s not a one-out and they’ve got to make the big moments count.”


I think it is entirely feasible that after the 2021 finals elimination Koch turned his attention from the players to the coach and realised, like many did, Hinkley is not the man to get it done.
 

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I mean we all WANT Ken to succeed.

I'd ******* love it if we won our last four, snuck in to the 8, won an EF, a SF, a Prelim then a Grand Final to break our premiership drought and Ken Hinkley celebrated on the dais. Nothing I'd love to see more.

Its just that there is 10 years of evidence telling us its unlikely.

Unlikely?

Ken lover 🤣
 


Let me tell you what's going to happen. This way you can prepare yourself.

On the weekend, Port will demolish Collingwood. They will do this because Collingwood is in the top four because of a bottom six fixture and, in spite of what people think, Port would be a top four side if Dixon had played every game of the season. The club will point to this as being proof positive of the connection that the players have with Hinkley, the media will say that beating a top four side away from home proves that Hinkley is the right man for the job. The BigFooty Port forum will protest....you'll probably threaten to not renew your memberships...but in the end, Hinkley will coach Port Adelaide in 2023.

The reason Hinkley will coach in 2023 is the same reason why you think he shouldn't. You're right that people staying away from the club will hurt the club's bottom line and force them to act. But one of the home games remaining this year is against the enemies (points to a picture of Dawson kicking the goal that probably cost us a spot in the finals) of your enemies (points to a photo of Hinkley smiling on the boundary). And while the club can't use injuries and form as an excuse as to why they couldn't get the job done against Melbourne, Fremantle or Geelong - which proves that they probably wouldn't have won the flag this year anyway - sometimes all that is required to get the majority of people onside is the prospect of a complete demolition of Adelaide in the last game of the season.

So, the last four games of the season have now become a referendum, by the players and the supporters who attend the Richmond and Adelaide games, on whether Hinkley should be given an extension that the club didn't have to give him if people had just kept their mouths shut. What do people think is going to happen if we get two 35k+ crowds to the remaining two home games, when we are averaging 27k for the year? The club is going to see the sticker and the discontent as being from an increasingly irrelevant group of supporters on this forum, and marginalise the people who post here even further.

That sticker was a ******* stupid move. And every person who supported it is as ******* dumb as Dixon accuses them of being.

Thank you Janus – you've restored my belief that the club will do the right thing
and sack Hinkley.

Such arrogantly staunch proclamations from you are generally a reliable indicator that the opposite will in fact happen.
 
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Must be a great culture at Port Adelaide for any player who has a differing opinion.

Not only would the coach shut you down but you’d be intimidated and ridiculed by Dixon and C Cornes.

…Chad Wingard anyone?

Not to mention a coach who demands apologies from individual players for their on-field performance. And a bloke who thinks a sticker calling for him to be sacked after 10 years of meh crosses some line of decency. Imagine what he does to those who dare question him.
 
Yes.

This was Koch post 2017 finals elimination:
“If they’re not prepared; if they’re just playing for us because they love to play AFL, they’re not players that we want.
“If they’re not prepared to win a premiership for this club, we basically don’t want them. Let us know and we’ll trade them.
“It’s not a one-off, it’s not a one-out and they’ve got to make the big moments count.”


I think it is entirely feasible that after the 2021 finals elimination Koch turned his attention from the players to the coach and realised, like many did, Hinkley is not the man to get it done.
Koch was raked over the coals by both the players and the coaching staff after that tirade. That being said - we signed Hinkley to an extension after that game and the next offseason we traded out Wingard, Polec and Pittard.

We aren't privy to what Ken's contract KPIs are - going into 2020 his 2021 extension was based on him making finals in the first three years. He's been under pressure before, it's just that this time there's no guaranteed extension year trigger if he performs...or is there?

There would be all sorts of clauses in his contract regarding availability of players etc. People read the letter from Matthew Richardson and didn't put two and two together when he first spoke about the performance of the team being unacceptable and then mentioned the lack of AFL players being available to the SANFL side.

My philosophy on Hinkley is that he may be Moses and lead us to the promised land but not be the one to cross over the Jordan and actually win a flag. But I think he deserves one year with a fit Fantasia, Dixon, Lycett et al and Rozee and Butters in the midfield to see if that's the case.

My other philosophy is that I'd rather get Hardwick than Clarkson. And since Hardwick is still contracted at Richmond until 2024, I'm prepared to wait for my Joshua as opposed to going along with the 'Sack Hinkley' Korah and his 249 co-conspirators.
 
when somebody of the experience and peer, team mates respect makes a strong statement like that above, i think it is worth taking notice. He is on the field taking the bumps and thumps, chasing players, blocking, tackling while we the spectator are safely in front of tv, stadium seat or standing. There is a physical risk taking to the field. rEference platten, sculTz. Also he would be very aware of what happens during the week, rehab, injury management etc. So for me his statement is very creditable.
 
when somebody of the experience and peer, team mates respect makes a strong statement like that above, i think it is worth taking notice. He is on the field taking the bumps and thumps, chasing players, blocking, tackling while we the spectator are safely in front of tv, stadium seat or standing. There is a physical risk taking to the field. rEference platten, sculTz. Also he would be very aware of what happens during the week, rehab, injury management etc. So for me his statement is very creditable.
Keep Schulz name out of your
****ing mouth!
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when somebody of the experience and peer, team mates respect makes a strong statement like that above, i think it is worth taking notice. He is on the field taking the bumps and thumps, chasing players, blocking, tackling while we the spectator are safely in front of tv, stadium seat or standing. There is a physical risk taking to the field. rEference platten, sculTz. Also he would be very aware of what happens during the week, rehab, injury management etc. So for me his statement is very creditable.
Piss off Rooch
 
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