Opinion Sack Hinkley 6 - Kochblocked

[PatientMental]

You're so right.

Rather than take someone's word for it, I've gone through Ken's record against the top eight for each year. I'm not going to count double up games, because that will skew things especially when you have more games against top four opponents etc, just whether we were able to win a game against the top eight.



Not sure if you're seriously going to add this season to his total though. We were ******* rubbish in 2012. It's not like he was Chris Scott taking over Geelong in 2011.



Even when you're flying, you're only ever going to beat half the teams in the top eight.



2015 was a failure not because we couldn't beat top eight teams, but because we let rubbish teams like Carlton and Brisbane beat us. Got way too ahead of ourselves.



I've already stated why 2016 should never be counted toward any coaching statistics. Losing Ryder, Monfries, Schulz, Carlile, White, Lobbe for the majority of the year isn't something you plan for.



This proved why in 2017 we were never really a top 4 team. We made finals on the back of a piss easy fixture and it's no wonder we decided to blow up the list and start again.



Better than 2017 and we didn't even make finals. Probably why we decided to move Polec, Wingard and Pittard on to hit the draft hard end the end of this year.



Nothing to say about this other than when you play three rookies in your best 22 for the year, you're going to have some ups and downs.




2020 was about not being hard enough for long enough. 2021 was about not being hard at all.



Played all of Collingwood, Brisbane, Fremantle, Carlton and St Kilda away from home. If you look at when we made top four, you'll see that top four sides are top four sides not because they beat other top four teams, but because they beat the teams from 5-8.

So, if you count every single season, Hinkley has won 28 out of a possible 48 different top eight opponents over 10 seasons, for a percentage of 58.3%. If you subtract his first season and the 2016 injury/WADA affected one, it is 26 out of a possible 34 different top eight opponents over 8 seasons, for a percentage of 76.5%.

It's why his percentage is 50% in finals (5-5) and not 16.67% like Chris Fagan (1-5).

If you want to say he's not good enough to get us to a flag because of his record against top four teams, that has some merit. I can see where people are coming from when they say that. But he's not a downhill skier.

Hahahahahaha, holy shit, you must always bend the narrative until it breaks in your favour don't you. I'm using the raw numbers you're applying your own bonkers head cannon to yours.

You can't just ignore years and data because it doesn't fit your agenda.

 

[MrPlow]

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39:29 - You get a mention
56:40 - Someone calls him out for whataboutism and he wants comparisons.

Anyone hear the guy before 39:29 that is clearly a Rucci plug speak about how Ken is coaching at the top of his game, he’s been tremendous since 0-5 and Netflix should do a documentary about Ken regardless of what happens next year?

 

[PJ Power]

Hahahahahaha, holy s**t, you must always bend the narrative until it breaks in your favour don't you. I'm using the raw numbers you're applying your own bonkers head cannon to yours.

You can't just ignore years and data because it doesn't fit your agenda.

It really was an extraordinary bending of the criteria to suit his own narrative.

 

[PatientMental]

Anyone hear the guy before 39:29 that is clearly a Rucci plug speak about how Ken is coaching at the top of his game, he’s been tremendous since 0-5 and Netflix should do a documentary about Ken regardless of what happens next year?

It's an odd radio paradigm when you have 99 callers say 'jeez kens shit, it's probably time to move him on' and one that says 'the sun really shines out of kens arse"

and they give the 1 caller a rousing reception because it fits with what they want to hear.

 

[PatientMental]

It really was an extraordinary bending of the criteria to suit his own narrative.

He should have kept going and nullified all years ken has coached so his record is at a perfect and unblemished 0% loss rate to top 8 teams.

 

[MrPlow]

You're so right.

Rather than take someone's word for it, I've gone through Ken's record against the top eight for each year. I'm not going to count double up games, because that will skew things especially when you have more games against top four opponents etc, just whether we were able to win a game against the top eight.



Not sure if you're seriously going to add this season to his total though. We were ******* rubbish in 2012. It's not like he was Chris Scott taking over Geelong in 2011.



Even when you're flying, you're only ever going to beat half the teams in the top eight.



2015 was a failure not because we couldn't beat top eight teams, but because we let rubbish teams like Carlton and Brisbane beat us. Got way too ahead of ourselves.



I've already stated why 2016 should never be counted toward any coaching statistics. Losing Ryder, Monfries, Schulz, Carlile, White, Lobbe for the majority of the year isn't something you plan for.



This proved why in 2017 we were never really a top 4 team. We made finals on the back of a piss easy fixture and it's no wonder we decided to blow up the list and start again.



Better than 2017 and we didn't even make finals. Probably why we decided to move Polec, Wingard and Pittard on to hit the draft hard end the end of this year.



Nothing to say about this other than when you play three rookies in your best 22 for the year, you're going to have some ups and downs.




2020 was about not being hard enough for long enough. 2021 was about not being hard at all.



Played all of Collingwood, Brisbane, Fremantle, Carlton and St Kilda away from home. If you look at when we made top four, you'll see that top four sides are top four sides not because they beat other top four teams, but because they beat the teams from 5-8.

So, if you count every single season, Hinkley has won 28 out of a possible 48 different top eight opponents over 10 seasons, for a percentage of 58.3%. If you subtract his first season and the 2016 injury/WADA affected one, it is 26 out of a possible 34 different top eight opponents over 8 seasons, for a percentage of 76.5%.

It's why his percentage is 50% in finals (5-5) and not 16.67% like Chris Fagan (1-5).

If you want to say he's not good enough to get us to a flag because of his record against top four teams, that has some merit. I can see where people are coming from when they say that. But he's not a downhill skier.

Janus I don’t want to be mean but you’ve literally taken away the objectively in preparing what is meant to be objective data.

You can’t choose and pick what games/seasons go into the top 4/top 8 wins. You tally them up and you calculate the percentages. That’s it.

 

[Del165198]

Janus I don’t want to be mean but you’ve literally taken away the objectively in preparing what is meant to be objective data.

You can’t choose and pick what games/seasons go into the top 4/top 8 wins. You tally them up and you calculate the percentages. That’s it.

yeah but have you taken into account the scene in top gun where tom cruise and val kilmer don't have shirts on and playin with the boys by kenny loggins is blasting at full volume?

 

[PatientMental]

"If you take out all the years he stabbed people my client is innocent!"

 

[PepeSilvia]

I'm not going to count double up games, because that will skew things especially when you have more games against top four opponents etc, just whether we were able to win a game against the top eight.

You must have a strong neck Janus

 

[rignanv]

Ken's management would be feeding this all out to the media spruiking he's "gettable" .. Kane, Caro, Gerard etc.

Lets just hope someone is stupid enough to offer him a big deal.

Are you still confident he'll be gone now that finals are out of the question (assuming he does not get another gig somewhere else)?

 

[FishingRick04]

You're so right.

Rather than take someone's word for it, I've gone through Ken's record against the top eight for each year. I'm not going to count double up games, because that will skew things especially when you have more games against top four opponents etc, just whether we were able to win a game against the top eight.



Not sure if you're seriously going to add this season to his total though. We were ******* rubbish in 2012. It's not like he was Chris Scott taking over Geelong in 2011.



Even when you're flying, you're only ever going to beat half the teams in the top eight.



2015 was a failure not because we couldn't beat top eight teams, but because we let rubbish teams like Carlton and Brisbane beat us. Got way too ahead of ourselves.



I've already stated why 2016 should never be counted toward any coaching statistics. Losing Ryder, Monfries, Schulz, Carlile, White, Lobbe for the majority of the year isn't something you plan for.



This proved why in 2017 we were never really a top 4 team. We made finals on the back of a piss easy fixture and it's no wonder we decided to blow up the list and start again.



Better than 2017 and we didn't even make finals. Probably why we decided to move Polec, Wingard and Pittard on to hit the draft hard end the end of this year.



Nothing to say about this other than when you play three rookies in your best 22 for the year, you're going to have some ups and downs.




2020 was about not being hard enough for long enough. 2021 was about not being hard at all.



Played all of Collingwood, Brisbane, Fremantle, Carlton and St Kilda away from home. If you look at when we made top four, you'll see that top four sides are top four sides not because they beat other top four teams, but because they beat the teams from 5-8.

So, if you count every single season, Hinkley has won 28 out of a possible 48 different top eight opponents over 10 seasons, for a percentage of 58.3%. If you subtract his first season and the 2016 injury/WADA affected one, it is 26 out of a possible 34 different top eight opponents over 8 seasons, for a percentage of 76.5%.

It's why his percentage is 50% in finals (5-5) and not 16.67% like Chris Fagan (1-5).

If you want to say he's not good enough to get us to a flag because of his record against top four teams, that has some merit. I can see where people are coming from when they say that. But he's not a downhill skier.

Seriously do you believe your own dribble?

His record his shithouse. What you have listed is excuses, winning coaches don’t have excuses, they have flags.

 

[snozulu]

Bye bye Ken

 

[HighBudget]

Boak & Trengove re-committing
Darren Burgess coming onboard
Keith Thomas and David Koch in the early days

To name a few

Plus of course the natural buzz that comes with moving away from the concrete cauldron of AAMI to a newly renovated Adelaide Oval

The great guys behind the One club merger kick started our revival, can't forget them

 

[Arsene Wenger]

Are you still confident he'll be gone now that finals are out of the question (assuming he does not get another gig somewhere else)?

Yep


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[afl2004]

Seriously do you believe your own dribble?

His record his shithouse. What you have listed is excuses, winning coaches don’t have excuses, they have flags.

Aussie rules is the most complex sport in the world yet janus thinks 1 thing doesn't go right either in 1 game or 1 list weakness then hinkley of course couldn't succeed

 

[Doctor Feel]

**** itll be nice to move on from this trash and get back to giving a **** about winning each game.

 

[StuMan]

 

[Pappagallo]

Hahahahahaha, holy s**t, you must always bend the narrative until it breaks in your favour don't you. I'm using the raw numbers you're applying your own bonkers head cannon to yours.

You can't just ignore years and data because it doesn't fit your agenda.

"With smaller testing we would show fewer cases!"

 

[edgie]

yeah but have you taken into account the scene in top gun where tom cruise and val kilmer don't have shirts on and playin with the boys by kenny loggins is blasting at full volume?

If he did it would make things look even worse for Ken and the boys.

Our club plays SOCCER with SHIRTS ON to BAD MUSIC when they're screwing around.

Absolute pansies.

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[philreich]

He’s rolled out “we just didn’t play port Adelaide footy” a few times

I would argue that we haven't played Port Adelaide footy since Hinkley has been here.

 

[Kablamo]

Anyone hear the guy before 39:29 that is clearly a Rucci plug speak about how Ken is coaching at the top of his game, he’s been tremendous since 0-5 and Netflix should do a documentary about Ken regardless of what happens next year?

Yep. Dont normally listen to that stuff but fmd, a documentary? great coaching after being 0-5? No point replacing a coach that will finish 12th-ish because there are no guarentees a new coach would be better? In what world are these rational thoughts And acceptable rationale for a football club that claims as its primary mission to exist to win premierships?

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[AFC AFeederClub]

Yep


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I hear what you're saying but why did your eyes move left when you said it?

 

[PA88]

Saying Ken saved Port like he was the sole reason for our revival discredits a lot of other people who did just as much, if not way more to help save our club and quiet frankly it’s disrespectful to these people

It's Kane thinking about himself again. What he means is that Ken saved Kane's ass.

 

[Us against the rest]

Koch doing an interview on triple m this morning.

Probably confirming our worst fears.

 

[PortWTF]

You're so right.

Rather than take someone's word for it, I've gone through Ken's record against the top eight for each year. I'm not going to count double up games, because that will skew things especially when you have more games against top four opponents etc, just whether we were able to win a game against the top eight.



Not sure if you're seriously going to add this season to his total though. We were ******* rubbish in 2012. It's not like he was Chris Scott taking over Geelong in 2011.



Even when you're flying, you're only ever going to beat half the teams in the top eight.



2015 was a failure not because we couldn't beat top eight teams, but because we let rubbish teams like Carlton and Brisbane beat us. Got way too ahead of ourselves.



I've already stated why 2016 should never be counted toward any coaching statistics. Losing Ryder, Monfries, Schulz, Carlile, White, Lobbe for the majority of the year isn't something you plan for.



This proved why in 2017 we were never really a top 4 team. We made finals on the back of a piss easy fixture and it's no wonder we decided to blow up the list and start again.



Better than 2017 and we didn't even make finals. Probably why we decided to move Polec, Wingard and Pittard on to hit the draft hard end the end of this year.



Nothing to say about this other than when you play three rookies in your best 22 for the year, you're going to have some ups and downs.




2020 was about not being hard enough for long enough. 2021 was about not being hard at all.



Played all of Collingwood, Brisbane, Fremantle, Carlton and St Kilda away from home. If you look at when we made top four, you'll see that top four sides are top four sides not because they beat other top four teams, but because they beat the teams from 5-8.

So, if you count every single season, Hinkley has won 28 out of a possible 48 different top eight opponents over 10 seasons, for a percentage of 58.3%. If you subtract his first season and the 2016 injury/WADA affected one, it is 26 out of a possible 34 different top eight opponents over 8 seasons, for a percentage of 76.5%.

It's why his percentage is 50% in finals (5-5) and not 16.67% like Chris Fagan (1-5).

If you want to say he's not good enough to get us to a flag because of his record against top four teams, that has some merit. I can see where people are coming from when they say that. But he's not a downhill skier.

And the first 5 games of the season don't really count because we didn't have Dixon, and Aliir got injured and Lycett was poor and then got injured, so really the season started for Ken in round 6. And then it's really unfair that we've played 3 top 4 teams in a row, so you shouldn't count them either