Pretty much confirms what we all say and think. Hinkley is a sh*t coach who's used guile and BS to keep his job.
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Opinion Sack Hinkley 7 - "Turn it around or watch out"
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That 2016-2022 run against the top 8 lol
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These comments that some journos continually roll out about the club not being in the SANFL any more are absolute BS, of the approx 20 Port supporters I had regular contact with when the club joined the AFL not one of them was silly enough to expect us to dominate that comp, and I suspect the vast majority of supporters would have been just as realistic.
I have recollections of none other than Brian Cunningham saying something along the lines of the expectations were for the team to be competitive from day 1, to eventually make the finals on a regular basis, and once that happened be a chance to make the grand final every 5 years or so.
All very reasonable and sensible comments from the CEO of a very proud club that had no intention of joining the AFL just to make up the numbers!
I have recollections of none other than Brian Cunningham saying something along the lines of the expectations were for the team to be competitive from day 1, to eventually make the finals on a regular basis, and once that happened be a chance to make the grand final every 5 years or so.
All very reasonable and sensible comments from the CEO of a very proud club that had no intention of joining the AFL just to make up the numbers!
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At least you don’t have to beat top 8 teams in the finals …
So in his entire career he's had one season where he's won more games than he's lost against Top 8 sides, and that was by exactly one game in a season with the biggest asterisk in the history of the universe.
ReMeMbEr WhAt KeN dId In 2013 AnD 2014 wHeN hE fIrSt CaMe To ThEcLuB yOu UnGrAtEfUlL bAsTaRdS !!!!
Yeah, I remember. He taught the players how to pick up toilet rolls and lose against top 8 sides.
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And talking up those wins as well.
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MF ya spot on, I feel the same, we go to games knowing we can’t win, homes games as well. We should be beating every side in the comp at home And worse we lose in the same insipid way And then Get told how good the oppo was or how tough the comp is..
shut the **** up and just get it done..
**** I hate you hinkley. You have taken all the joy out of PAFC for me..
With the win loss % data, it would be great to compare with other average coaches, as you can't tell what's normal. I think most coaches/ teams would more often beat sides lower on the ladder and lose to better teams,. I wonder how Donuts would fair against Ratten , Nicks or Dew?
I cant work out the best way to analyse this. Correlation maybe. Are there any stats gurus in the house? Not that we need any more data to prove he's a bust.
I cant work out the best way to analyse this. Correlation maybe. Are there any stats gurus in the house? Not that we need any more data to prove he's a bust.
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Looking forward to Koch publicly calling Brogan out as a Hinkley Hater and the mouth breathing happy clappers on social media telling him to "go and support the Crows".
Club premiership players Brogan and Tredrea are just White Noise.
Dixon, like a lot of players on the team, are being let down by the idiotic coach.
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Dixon like so many of the other senior players are defending this idiotic coach. Too much comfort.
It still may give blurred results considering Donuts has been in a senior AFL coaching position much longer than Dew & Nicks.
Note : I did not say that Donuts was an actual AFL coach lol.
I don't disagree.
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Yea most coaches would have a similar loss vs top eight situation, maybe not as stark as Ken’s but it would be there. It’s what sets Scott, Hardwick, Clarkson and Longmire apart - they are exceptional. Top eight are the best sides and therefore the hardest to beat.
There are extenuating circumstances. Ie Geelong have a massive advantage with Kadina Park, it’s almost impossible to win there and they typically play clubs like Port, Freo, WC, GWS and the Suns there - ie smaller drawing crowds. I would suggest hawthorn at their peak, Richmond at their peak ie just about anyone at their peak would struggle there. Collingwood, Hawthorn and Richmond have the advantage of playing many games at the G, this is a huge leg up in finals. Ratten, Dew, Cameron, Brad Scott, etc have all lead clubs that are rebuilding or restructuring or have a deficient list or lack financial support. Apt comparisons for Hinkley are Ross Lyon at Freo, Nathan Buckley, James Hird, the Crows pre Nicks, Adam Simpson, all the coaches of Carlton, Luke Beveridge and Chris Fagan - ie clubs that have money, should have a strong home game advantage and have reasonable playing lists. What we see there is a mix bag but I suspect most would have poor win loss records against top eight sides and then have a period of getting it together and then revert.
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In isolation, any other club would have such an atrocious nine year home ground record under a media spotlight that could liquefy skeletons.
Instead, I still don’t think I’ve heard anyone even mention it.
Every single year it’s “gee, that’s a gutsy win over there. it’s a tough place to go and get a result”.
It’s literally not. It literally isn’t.
Unless you’re a basement outfit like the Suns or Kangas, you’re basically a 50/50 shot of taking the chocolates against Port at Adelaide Oval, regardless of mutual circumstance. Even better than 50/50 under lights.
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Luv 2 turn up to watch us have less than 30% chance of winning vs any side that happens to be in the 8
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‘It’s not Woodville sans Malcolm Blight, Allen Jakovich and Ralph Sewer making the trip past the cemetery anymore’
You could go full Janus and over analyse the fu K out of it. Home ground, injuries Yada Yada. But the trend I think is pretty clear
In their GF appearance year the Camry Cows went 8/4 against top 8 teams including beating us twice
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For reference, our halcyon days under Chocolate:
• 2001: 6-6 (inc. 0-2 finals)
• 2002: 9-6 (inc. 1-2 finals)
• 2003: 9-4 (inc. 1-2 finals)
• 2004: 10-3 (inc. 3-0 finals)
• 2005: 4-8 (inc. 1-1 finals)
• 2006: 5-9 (missed finals)
• 2007: 7-6 (inc. 2-1 finals)
• TOTAL: 50-42 (8-8 finals)
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Was gonna have a listen but it's got to a point where just can't stomach it anymore
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Realistically our chairman Koch will bundle a final farewell game for Ken that coincidentally will be retirement games for one of/all of Jonas, Boak, Dixon.
That way it will be seen as a 'celebration' of Ken's decade of donuts and for supporters to dare not boo Boak or Jonas.
Either way it doesn't sit easy with me what they have planned.
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"We're going to back this failed loser because I am an absolute cuck of a human"
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Is this for real? So we have written off the season already and have no expectations of anyone?
When does the AFLW start?
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