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[skipper kelly]

have you sat back for a moment and thought that it could actually be possible that the rape claims maybe falsehoods? Thats right Skip this has happened before. so it seems that in your eyes the players are guilty.

Please show me where I have said or even implied that the players are guilty. Youre making up BS now.

I have no clue as to innocence or guilt, and I dont pretend to know.

I also dont assume to know that a woman who is alleging rape is taken civil action for the purposes of making money. This is what you assumed, stated and said you believed. Unless you have evidence to show this to be true then you are the one that is clearly making judgements.

 

[The Fireman]

Please show me where I have said or even implied that the players are guilty. Youre making up BS now.

You stated I had trouble comprehending Victim mentality, therefore claiming she is a victim implying that the players are guilty.
So you can cut your BS.

 

[skipper kelly]

How much evidence do I need to say to me it seems like she is after the money.

At least some evidence would be nice.

 

[skipper kelly]

You stated I had trouble comprehending Victim mentality, therefore claiming she is a victim implying that the players are guilty.
So you can cut your BS.

Pointless even discussing with you. Victim = Person making allegations of crime. Defendant = accused.

Now show me where I have said or even implied that the defendants are guilty.

 

[nicky]

You stated I had trouble comprehending Victim mentality, therefore claiming she is a victim implying that the players are guilty.
So you can cut your BS.

that's a pretty loose claim made by skip then

i think it's pretty dangerous to claim the guys are guilty or the girl is chasing the money. Both senarios have dangerous lasting effects.

think about it, if she is a victim, she's now dealing with the 'money chaser' label just b/c she's doing the right thing and seeking retribution.

i wouldn't go around saying the guys were guilty either, b/c that would be a terrible thing for a guy to have to go through (if they're innocent).

 

[The Fireman]

Pointless even discussing with you. Victim = Person making allegations of crime. Defendant = accused.

Now show me where I have said or even implied that the defendants are guilty.

You claimed there was a victim involved by stating that, was it the players you were talking about? I don't think so, oh and please stop following me around BF, it's getting scary.

 

[skipper kelly]

You claimed there was a victim involved by stating that, was it the players you were talking about? I don't think so, oh and please stop following me around BF, it's getting scary.

are you a child? sook.

 

[nicky]

You claimed there was a victim involved by stating that, was it the players you were talking about? I don't think so, oh and please stop following me around BF, it's getting scary.

is that what you say to someone when they beat you in an argument?

 

[The Fireman]

is that what you say to someone when they beat you in an argument?

How so? look skip one of your swanny mates has jumped into help.
Ok Nicky explain yourself.

 

[nicky]

How so? look skip one of your swanny mates has jumped into help.
Ok Nicky explain yourself.

i've explained my opinions... just scroll up the page slightly


lol, skip doesn't need my help

 

[The Fireman]

are you a child? sook.

nice way of avoiding a stuff up, poor form Skip.

 

[The Fireman]

i've explained my opinions... just scroll up the page slightly


lol, skip doesn't need my help

figures Nicky, you've explained nothing, your just a stooge.

 

[nicky]

i don't know of any girls that have lied about being r*ped for money (i'm not saying they don't exist). However i do know of 2 girls that have had 'incidences' with high profile sportsmen and have done nothing about it. One was embarassed and didn't want to bring anymore shame to herself and the other one knew the burden of proof would be impossible should it go to court.

Guys in high profile sports do have a tendency to get a little silly and get away with it. So girls have to be aware of this and the public have a responisibility to not treat these guys as angels just b/c they play sport... they're not!

here you go fireman, i've quoted it for you as it seems too hard for you to go back a page and actually read what i wrote... read that while i get the other one for you...

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

figures Nicky, you've explained nothing, your just a stooge.

Namecalling: The last refuge of a scoundrel

 

[nicky]

i think it's pretty dangerous to claim the guys are guilty or the girl is chasing the money. Both senarios have dangerous lasting effects.

think about it, if she is a victim, she's now dealing with the 'money chaser' label just b/c she's doing the right thing and seeking retribution.

i wouldn't go around saying the guys were guilty either, b/c that would be a terrible thing for a guy to have to go through (if they're innocent).

here is another one

 

[nicky]

figures Nicky, you've explained nothing, your just a stooge.

i accept your appology

cheers

 

[skipper kelly]

nice way of avoiding a stuff up, poor form Skip.

what are you on about. You end the discussion with "oh and please stop following me around BF, it's getting scary". and then tell me Im avoiding something.

Once again for your information

Victim = Person making allegation of crime.
Defendant = Accused.

Do you understand this language?

 

[The Fireman]

here you go fireman, i've quoted it for you as it seems too hard for you to go back a page and actually read what i wrote... read that while i get the other one for you...

and that has something to do with Skip beating me in argument???
and the name Stooge was apt in this case.

PS as for your post there was a woman convicted recently of claiming rape against a sports person. Can't remember off hand who it was, maybe someone can help with that.

 

[skipper kelly]

How so? look skip one of your swanny mates has jumped into help.

the irony is killing me

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I think its preferable that we see some false accusations by women rather than the enormous amount of assaults that went unreported. Its about time sportspeople realise they are not above basic human decency.

 

[nicky]

and that has something to do with Skip beating me in argument???and the name Stooge was apt in this case.

PS as for your post there was a woman convicted recently of claiming rape against a sports person. Can't remember off hand who it was, maybe someone can help with that.

wtf????

i'm not here to prove to you how skip beat you? i'm not that bored. I was offering my opinion b/c that was what the thread was about.!

ps. he did beat you though

 

[skipper kelly]

and that has something to do with Skip beating me in argument???

I dont know about you but I dont actually give a ******** about who is percieved to be beating who.

I picked you up on a point, explained what I think and thats that. If you cant accept discussion without the "stop following me around" crap then the problems is yours.

Very disappointing Fireman. Expected better from you.

 

[nicky]

I think its preferable that we see some false accusations by women rather than the enormous amount of assaults that went unreported. Its about time sportspeople realise they are not above basic human decency.

i absolutely agree and what pi$$es me off with this is that when someone does report it, they are immediately labled a; liar, money chaser... whether she be telling the truth or not this aint a great incentive for the thousands of rape victims to use the law.

 

[The Fireman]

what are you on about. You end the discussion with "oh and please stop following me around BF, it's getting scary". and then tell me Im avoiding something.

Once again for your information

Victim = Person making allegation of crime.
Defendant = Accused.

Do you understand this language?

lol nice try, why did you acuse me of not understanding victim mentality when a victim hasn't been substantiated? Is a person a victim if nothing has happened to them?
Definition:
1. somebody hurt or killed: somebody who is hurt or killed by somebody or something, especially in a crime, accident, or disaster
who is the victim Skip?

 

[The Fireman]

wtf????

i'm not here to prove to you how skip beat you? i'm not that bored. I was offering my opinion b/c that was what the thread was about.!

ps. he did beat you though

thats what I was replying to you about.
PS I agree with the most parts of your posts.