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Injury SJOGHCIU - Offseason Edition
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So with tonight's injuries we have 18 injured with Bazzo and SPS added. Potentially Hough and Sheed are the only potential reinforcements back this week. Could get 5 back by the Hawks game.
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As alluded to in the AFL article WCE_phil posted in the media thread it was a pretty light run today
Of the 23 who played against Carlton, SPS and Bazzo were unsighted whilst Hurn, Rotham, Allen, Darling, LEdwards and Duggan did light duties only. The rest went through a few low intensity fundamentals after a few warm up laps
Of the currently injured players HEdwards, JWilliams and Sheed also did the full session. Maybe because it’s been a while since I’ve seen him but Sheed looks in about as good as physical condition as I’ve seen him
Naitanui made an appearance walking laps with the five guys who played WAFL yesterday and generally just hung around without doing anything of note. Chesser was also out on the oval ambling around and kicking a footy to anyone who put their hand up - didn’t look troubled in his movements albeit he never went past a light jog and no sudden changes of direction
All in all not much to see other than an increase in numbers from the corresponding session last week
That was until the session ended and the players split into line groups. Each group was addressed by one of the assistant coaches (Knights, Schofield and Pratt as best I could make out) for at least 5 minutes. Then the groups rotated so that each group was addressed by each assistant with all discussions going for 5+ minutes
It was too far away to make out what was being said but it looked like reinforcing the way the coaches expected things to be done. No ranting just a measured explanation
I might be reading more into it than it actually was but it’s something I’ve not seen before
Of the 23 who played against Carlton, SPS and Bazzo were unsighted whilst Hurn, Rotham, Allen, Darling, LEdwards and Duggan did light duties only. The rest went through a few low intensity fundamentals after a few warm up laps
Of the currently injured players HEdwards, JWilliams and Sheed also did the full session. Maybe because it’s been a while since I’ve seen him but Sheed looks in about as good as physical condition as I’ve seen him
Naitanui made an appearance walking laps with the five guys who played WAFL yesterday and generally just hung around without doing anything of note. Chesser was also out on the oval ambling around and kicking a footy to anyone who put their hand up - didn’t look troubled in his movements albeit he never went past a light jog and no sudden changes of direction
All in all not much to see other than an increase in numbers from the corresponding session last week
That was until the session ended and the players split into line groups. Each group was addressed by one of the assistant coaches (Knights, Schofield and Pratt as best I could make out) for at least 5 minutes. Then the groups rotated so that each group was addressed by each assistant with all discussions going for 5+ minutes
It was too far away to make out what was being said but it looked like reinforcing the way the coaches expected things to be done. No ranting just a measured explanation
I might be reading more into it than it actually was but it’s something I’ve not seen before
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How did Hough train?
So the big question is - when can we expect the return of the magnificent seventeen?
Firstly I write this thinking today it is only 17. Why do I get nervous? In all reality, we need to brace ourselves and he ready to this list grow later this week.
So who makes the cut as of today?
The medical team view
The football view
For those wondering about when the cavalry arrive, I will need to manage expectations.
The cadets will arrive for the all important game in Launceston.
In theory Yeo will be knocking on the door. Now wouldn't it be a wise thing to fly Elliott over with no WAFL form and after a long haul, he transforms into Mr Indestructible!
We basically limp through to the bye and get the endurance beasts of Gov and NicNat back on the field.
I expect we could in theory place Cole, Cripps, Ryan and Winder on the LTI list and see them next year (bar Winder). Why that might allow us to give 4 others a look see and bolster our Beagles.
Of course that is assuming once Shuey and Yeo come back, they will remain healthy.
In breaking news, there is a chance that both Baker and Dewar might be in for a debut against the Suns in round 9.
Firstly I write this thinking today it is only 17. Why do I get nervous? In all reality, we need to brace ourselves and he ready to this list grow later this week.
So who makes the cut as of today?
The medical team view
The football view
For those wondering about when the cavalry arrive, I will need to manage expectations.
The cadets will arrive for the all important game in Launceston.
In theory Yeo will be knocking on the door. Now wouldn't it be a wise thing to fly Elliott over with no WAFL form and after a long haul, he transforms into Mr Indestructible!
We basically limp through to the bye and get the endurance beasts of Gov and NicNat back on the field.
I expect we could in theory place Cole, Cripps, Ryan and Winder on the LTI list and see them next year (bar Winder). Why that might allow us to give 4 others a look see and bolster our Beagles.
Of course that is assuming once Shuey and Yeo come back, they will remain healthy.
In breaking news, there is a chance that both Baker and Dewar might be in for a debut against the Suns in round 9.
Miguel Sanchez
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McGovern 7-8 weeks away, no one ruled out for the season yet but that might (and hopefully will absolutely) be reassessed before the May 31 deadline.
An SJOGHCIU before the AFL'S weird made up list? Crazy stuff. SJOG Health Care injury update: Round 8
Sheed aside, not a lot of good news here, but also not a lot of bad news so that's a start.
Sheed aside, not a lot of good news here, but also not a lot of bad news so that's a start.
Surely Cripps is season ending so we can get a Mid season pick?
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I suppose after whinging about all the TBCs and saying I wouldn’t expect return dates to be set in stone, I just wanted some indication, I probably can’t complain when they don’t seem to be moving.
But a lot of those don’t seem to be moving.
Pretty sure you can even bring someone back from the LTI list later as long as someone else is out for the season to replace them, which is surely a dead certainty by r21.
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Very exciting the first 5 available are probably the first 5 I'd like to see have a run - all likely to come back through the WAFL of course.
I don't see why they don't just write off the season for him. Instead he's likely to get rushed back for a round 21 dead rubber and then do his hamstring.
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Surely we open up at least one list spot? Would be a massively stupid move not to.
Really we should try and open up 2 or 3 and take the best player available and a couple of speculative picks with the others.
I mean is there any point in Liam Ryan & Cole coming back for a couple of games? Plus chances are we'll have some LTI's who can take their place in the second half of the season if we really want them to get a game at the end of the year.
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Long is a worry. Was supposed to be a minor hammy which is 2-3 weeks. Looks like it will end up being 6-7weeks.
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Yeah he was the main one I picked up. Don’t think Shuey or Yeo have improved either.
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Long as far I understood has recovered it's just conditioning now. Same with Burgiel.
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He’s only missed two games hasn’t he? He played the first five weeks, surely he doesn’t need another mini pre season.
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Provided they’re being super conservative with the likes of Long, Burgiel, Hewett etc and making sure those players are fully recovered before sending them back out I’m ok with them taking an extra week or two
Last thing we want is players brought back prematurely, especially the younger ones
Last thing we want is players brought back prematurely, especially the younger ones
He's our best player. So makes sense when we are trying to get pick 1.
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Eagles would never do that.....
Its an absolute no brainer to open up a mid season spot and bring in some reinforcements to protect some of the younger guys. The worst it can do is strengthen our WAFL side.
Don't see the point of Cripps or Ryan coming back for 1 or 2 games
I am relaxed as far as the club making a decision before May 28 to place 2 players on the LTI list and take a couple of picks, especially sine it feel like we will have pick 1. Cripps, Cole and Winder are the leading candidates.
With Bazzo, it now makes a full 18 out for round 8 (it looks like a pretty decent and well balanced team)
I am hoping that we bring most players back through WAFL. No more credits in the bank.
Simmo will argue Yeo and Shuey are ultimate professionals and come straight back - we have seen how that has worked out!!
Our young players do not need the added pressure of top level upon their return.
What is the deal with Winder? Surely his AFL career is over.
With Bazzo, it now makes a full 18 out for round 8 (it looks like a pretty decent and well balanced team)
I am hoping that we bring most players back through WAFL. No more credits in the bank.
Simmo will argue Yeo and Shuey are ultimate professionals and come straight back - we have seen how that has worked out!!
Our young players do not need the added pressure of top level upon their return.
What is the deal with Winder? Surely his AFL career is over.
The theory that Optus is to blame for our knee, hamstring and ankle problems can be put to bed.
Or Cole.
Or Winder.
It would be stupidity not to take pick 1 in the MSD and take a free hit on a passed over due injury (someone like Gilbey (sp?)) guy or a 20-23 year old late SANFL/WAFL bloomer. Or even better, 2 picks; pick 1 and another around 10 I would guess.
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