I don't get it. We're they scared running out like some are claiming? Or were they too relaxed like some are claiming?
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I don't get it. We're they scared running out like some are claiming? Or were they too relaxed like some are claiming?
I don't get it. We're they scared running out like some are claiming? Or were they too relaxed like some are claiming?
They were jittery as during the national anthem. Literally every player was flicking ants off their legs. Lions didn't move a muscle. I was actually super concentrated on that as it stuck out like a sore thumb in 22 as well.I don't get it. We're they scared running out like some are claiming? Or were they too relaxed like some are claiming?
I reckon they were overwhelmed by the fear of losing rather than focussed on what they needed to do. It totally crippled them. I'm not sure this team can bounce back from this to play in another GF without some serious change. There is going to be some serious scarring.They were jittery as during the national anthem. Literally every player was flicking ants off their legs. Lions didn't move a muscle. I was actually super concentrated on that as it stuck out like a sore thumb in 22 as well.
Spot on. It's so hard to comprehend the lack of effort. I was at the ground, high up and every time a swans player took a mark i was screaming out, give him an option, where is a lead etc.I don't know what they could show me, but I certainly at no stage saw that desperation that this was everything, you know diving efforts , massive chases, people worn out from how hard they just worked.
I saw a lack of movement , lack of chasing etc won't name names but there was one in the second from a forward that looked like they couldn't be bothered breaking a jog
You can take it to the bank the players were just waiting in hope that everyone around them would play a part in getting the game going rather than focussing on their own individual effort. We're a confidence team hence the gulf between our best and worst + our inconsistencies from qtr to qtr especially our starts.After struggling to digest what had happened in that disaster, with much reluctance I watched the grand final replay (up to half time) and then watched the different analysis on fox.
Here is what I've learnt:
-pressure rating of 158. Fuc*ing disgraceful for any game let alone a GF
-our defensive pressure was non existent
-our zone defensive structure was shocking, allowed them acres of space to kick the ball through and around the swans. Lions are the best team at doing this in the comp - how we allowed this is beyond me. This speaks to coaching and also effort.
-our ball movement was slow. We either did short kicks with no damage, or kicked long to our disadvantage.
-lost so many 1-1's
-our forward line was sooooo slow with the 3 KPF's and Parker. No ability to lock the ball in or win ground ball.
So for me the above speaks to a combination of bad game day coaching/planning and a horrific lack of intent and effort. I've got no doubt the boys wanted to win this one so badly - so I can only gather that they were totally overwhelmed by the occasion. It's almost like their fears left them crippled mentally and had a fog.
Oh my that is just awful. And just to reinforce what you said, if anyone is struggling, sing out.Someone at work had a family friend who supports us apparently has finished themselves saturday night .
It's just footy but it means a lot if anyone needs to talk sing out to someone, message me i will talk to you, don't suffer alone.
This will all be fine , sorry to post this but just saying
Roos is right. We need to make the hard calls in terms of list management. Too many players are obviously scarred by these GF floggings. What that may look like, I have no idea. Perhaps Parker and possibly Warner requesting trades may help. Definitely need some new coaches coming in with different ideas. We got to stop hiring ex Swans players as coaches.I reckon they were overwhelmed by the fear of losing rather than focussed on what they needed to do. It totally crippled them. I'm not sure this team can bounce back from this to play in another GF without some serious change. There is going to be some serious scarring.
Couldn’t agree with this statement more. Only Dean Cox is the outsider in our coaching admin team I thinkWe got to stop hiring ex Swans players as coaches.
Been reading my play book lolRoos is right. We need to make the hard calls in terms of list management. Too many players are obviously scarred by these GF floggings. What that may look like, I have no idea. Perhaps Parker and possibly Warner requesting trades may help. Definitely need some new coaches coming in with different ideas. We got to stop hiring ex Swans players as coaches.
Bring back Stewy Dew as an assistant.Couldn’t agree with this statement more. Only Dean Cox is the outsider in our coaching admin team I think
There is Adam Simpson out there - great strategist - Choco Williams you hear a lot of players talk about as being great. I think Bedford (?) mentioned Trent Cotchin, Stewy Dew was available. I am sure there are other avenues out there besides only looking at Ex Swans players.Couldn’t agree with this statement more. Only Dean Cox is the outsider in our coaching admin team I think
Exactly, Kirk, McVeigh and Matthews were there when we branded the Bloods culture, surely they have some say.Also, we keep banging on about the Bloods culture and how it's gone missing, but most our coaches were around when that culture was alive and well, but where the **** is it? It's alive only in name.
Rory Sloane great reputation , we need someone young like him , not 50yo'sThere is Adam Simpson out there - great strategist - Choco Williams you hear a lot of players talk about as being great. I think Bedford (?) mentioned Trent Cotchin, Stewy Dew was available. I am sure there are other avenues out there besides only looking at Ex Swans players.
Also, we keep banging on about the Bloods culture and how it's gone missing, but most our coaches were around when that culture was alive and well, but where the **** is it? It's alive only in name.
Yup, he's another one. There are options out there.Rory Sloane great reputation , we need someone young like him , not 50yo's
There is Adam Simpson out there - great strategist - Choco Williams you hear a lot of players talk about as being great. I think Bedford (?) mentioned Trent Cotchin, Stewy Dew was available. I am sure there are other avenues out there besides only looking at Ex Swans players.
Also, we keep banging on about the Bloods culture and how it's gone missing, but most our coaches were around when that culture was alive and well, but where the **** is it? It's alive only in name.
He's now going through who is a blood or notBucks talking now how hard we used to be and questioning the bloods culture and he's right
I think much of what Roosy said made sense - I just don't know who he means. Is it the bunch of players we just bent over backwards to retain on long contracts? Is it the young gun that was probably our best player in the last GF and was instrumental in getting us to the grannie in the first place? Is it the peripheral players that we don't really count on much anyway? It's hard to know where to go when you think the problem is the personnel.Roos is right. We need to make the hard calls in terms of list management. Too many players are obviously scarred by these GF floggings. What that may look like, I have no idea. Perhaps Parker and possibly Warner requesting trades may help. Definitely need some new coaches coming in with different ideas. We got to stop hiring ex Swans players as coaches.
Bucks talking now how hard we used to be and questioning the bloods culture and he's right