Autopsy Sydney Legacy in Grand Finals continues 10 goal loss to the Lions

[Heeney2Franklin]

A true legend of the club. I do not use that accolade lightly. He is a living legend.

Yep might not reach 300 but 250+ games will cement him as a Sydney club champion.

 

[Jeffers]

I Wonder if the Swans can get Ivan Cleary as a consultant to review our prep for grand finals.

On a side note. I’m glad one of my teams know what it takes to win a grand final in the mighty panthers. 4peat!

Commiserations to the Storm fans on this board.

 

[The King!]

I Wonder if the Swans can get Ivan Cleary as a consultant to review our prep for grand finals.

On a side note. I’m glad one of my teams know what it takes to win a grand final in the mighty panthers. 4peat!

Commiserations to the Storm fans on this board.

Just get Chris Fagan in , seems a decent chap, will give us some advice

 

[Bigdaz68]

Remember after that opening round i thought Richards was cooked when Lloyd kicked 7 on him lol.

I was just as devastated

That was leaping Leo. Came back down to earth after "Leo Barry you star" that's for sure!!

 

[Callipygian]

I'm not recommending it but there's an OzzyMan review of the GF. Note: OzzyMan is a big Lions fan.

 

[bedford]

Whatever happens no stone needs to be unturned to find out the reason for that disgusting gutless performance .from Rampe holding hands in the photo etc. and right through the coaching .
Horse has been fantastic , but must pull the pin at the end of next season

 

[caesar88]

Whatever happens no stone needs to be unturned to find out the reason for that disgusting gutless performance .from Rampe holding hands in the photo etc. and right through the coaching .
Horse has been fantastic , but must pull the pin at the end of next season

We're all style, no substance.

I've been consistent all season long that we were seriously mistaken if we thought our version of "pressure" was going to stack up against other teams in finals, particularly a grand final.

Sam Reid made an interesting comment at the B&F, referring to the 2012 side and how everyone was "dialled in" to their roles on the day. Well OK, let's imagine that our players this year showed up on the day and were dialled in to their role. Who was going to be "dialled in" to applying manic pressure, cracking in to win hard balls, sticking tough tackles that made the opposition hurt, working hard both sides of the ball to defend opposition time and space?

I'll tell you who... hardly any of them. Because it's not their role. They weren't great at those things all season long, why would we expect them to suddenly be great at it on the day?

You get the team you coach, and you get the team you pick. A midfield with a whopping total of two hard mids in it, a forward line with one small forward and zero players elite in the pressure area, and a team stacked with uncontested, outside players... is probably going to lack hardness in the midfield, pressure in the forward line, and players suited to the contest on the day. Especially in a grand final, which every player who has played in one has attested to it being another level of intensity from any other match.

Horse has to change the DNA of this team and what it's about, and what HE wants it to be about.

 

[bedford]

I had been keeping it in for a week , but f ing pissed off .
Take nothing away from Fages and Brissy they were outstanding , but so should we have been !

 

[bedford]

The biggest thing we need to do is concentrate on ON FIELD issues , not off field issues and causes , they can take a backward seat next year

 

[Tedeski]

The other 17 clubs should lobby the AFL to give the Swans the easiest draw every year.
This would assist us to finish top every season & in turn make the Grand Final every year, which in turn gives every other team in the competition the best chance of winning premierships should they make tge GF against us.

 

[kickthething]

Not sure where to post this but here will do.I was at the NRL GF last night supporting,the Storm (I am a foundation member), and as you know we lost. But this was the feeling I wanted to have last week if we lost. Really proud, a team that in every post game interview blamed no one but themselves, The universe didn’t get a mention!, took full responsibility, acknowledged they need to use this to drive next year , need to take the lessons from the benchmark organisation etc etc…just a really different feeling thinking next year could be very good for the Storm and they hung in there against some adversity but you knew they were going to fall short… contrasting our loss and how I was post the AFL gf…..validates to me it wasn’t the loss …. It was the manner of it.

 

[Tedeski]

The biggest thing we need to do is concentrate on ON FIELD issues , not off field issues and causes , they can take a backward seat next year

We try too hard off field with all these causes & not hard enough on field.
Some one asked me the other day if we actually have any indigenous players on our list.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

I had been keeping it in for a week , but f ing pissed off .
Take nothing away from Fages and Brissy they were outstanding , but so should we have been !

I'm with you.

Imagine paying thousands to attend a concert only to have the singer completely stink it up, singing out of tune and unable to hit a note. You'd want a refund.

I know the analogy is not 100% accurate but that's how I felt after paying for tickets, flights and accommodation to go down and watch the crap our team dished up. I said to my wife that I would've got more value wiping my bum with $100 bills then paying up to go and support our team.

I still love the club but they will have to earn my trust before I will make the journey to Melbourne for a GF again.

 

[bedford]

We try too hard off field with all these causes & not hard enough on field.
Some one asked me the other day if we actually have any indigenous players on our list.

We don't and i think after that rat Taylor we might be gun shy.
All our focus off field next year is our charities , that's all and our players do a great job.
We have 70,000 members , draw the biggest crowds , we don't need to suck up like we do . Other clubs have 1 or 2 special games and that's it

 

[bloodsbigot]

1 week and a bit on and time for me to reflect.

Firstly I want to apologize for all the horrible things I said to any members here. I was full of alcohol and rage.

Secondly I'm still a bit angry with the team for letting us down so badly. We had everything going for us and we shat the bed. We will never get a Grand Final more favourable than what we were given. Playing a team from outside Victoria, all banged up from the week before and playing against their second string ruckman. I don't know what else to do except just sack Longmire. We need to really examine ourselves as a club. We were all set for a historic win, and we comprehensively blew it.

When I accidentally read a post by the swans on facebook a day after losing the Grand Final asking the 75k members to resign for 2025 I almost threw my phone out the window. I mean, what bad timing. What were they thinking? Read the bloody room. There really is a big disconnect with our media team and the supporters. Seriously, they need to be sacked and replaced with a team that actually can connect with our supporters.

Like many others, I'm really, really frustrated with what the players and coaches said after the game. "Oh yeah it's just one game. We won't let it define us. We'll learn from this and come back stronger. We are united. Blah blah blah." I understand staying positive, but we just need to admit we're a weak club and always screws up on the biggest stage. It was really telling to me, that we won in 2005 after they came up with three words how they'd like to be seen as, 'HARD, DISCIPLINED, RELENTLESS.' And in 2014 they changed 'RELENTLESS' to 'UNITED.' I think this was a mistake as we've been killed ever since.

Anyway, a bit of positivity from me now. I started thinking more about our opposition. The Brisbane lions hadn't won anything meaningful since 2003. Over 20 years. They finished in the bottom 6 for most of that time while we were on top.

We've experienced our fair share of heartbreak since 2022, but they haven't exactly had it easy either.
2019 finished 2nd. Semi Final losers.
2020 finished 2nd. Preliminary Final losers.
2021 finished 4th. Semi Final losers.
2022 Preliminary Final losers.
2023 Grand Final losers

Compared to us.

2019 finished 15th
2020 finished 16th
2021 Elimination Final losers
2022 Grand Final losers
2023 Elimination Final losers

So you could argue that Brisbane lions had to work harder and experienced more heartbreak and near misses to get to this point than us. This gives me a glimmer of hope. Not much, but it's all I got right now. Brisbane lions and Fagan were a laughing stock for a while and he was going to get the sack. Especially after that whole racism row. Maybe just staying the course and trading in a few players (Key defender and key forward) is what we need right now and if we keep plugging away we'll eventually get there.

You could say yeah, but we were smashed in 2014 and 2016. To me, these are completely different teams.


And hey, we were smashed by 80 in 2022 and only 60 in 2024 so that's gotta be an improvement right? Maybe our next Grand Final against Freo we'll only be smashed by 40?

 

[bedford]

1 week and a bit on and time for me to reflect.

Firstly I want to apologize for all the horrible things I said to any members here. I was full of alcohol and rage.

Secondly I'm still a bit angry with the team for letting us down so badly. We had everything going for us and we shat the bed. We will never get a Grand Final more favourable than what we were given. Playing a team from outside Victoria, all banged up from the week before and playing against their second string ruckman. I don't know what else to do except just sack Longmire. We need to really examine ourselves as a club. We were all set for a historic win, and we comprehensively blew it.

When I accidentally read a post by the swans on facebook a day after losing the Grand Final asking the 75k members to resign for 2025 I almost threw my phone out the window. I mean, what bad timing. What were they thinking? Read the bloody room. There really is a big disconnect with our media team and the supporters. Seriously, they need to be sacked and replaced with a team that actually can connect with our supporters.

Like many others, I'm really, really frustrated with what the players and coaches said after the game. "Oh yeah it's just one game. We won't let it define us. We'll learn from this and come back stronger. We are united. Blah blah blah." I understand staying positive, but we just need to admit we're a weak club and always screws up on the biggest stage. It was really telling to me, that we won in 2005 after they came up with three words how they'd like to be seen as, 'HARD, DISCIPLINED, RELENTLESS.' And in 2014 they changed 'RELENTLESS' to 'UNITED.' I think this was a mistake as we've been killed ever since.

Anyway, a bit of positivity from me now. I started thinking more about our opposition. The Brisbane lions hadn't won anything meaningful since 2003. Over 20 years. They finished in the bottom 6 for most of that time while we were on top.

We've experienced our fair share of heartbreak since 2022, but they haven't exactly had it easy either.
2019 finished 2nd. Semi Final losers.
2020 finished 2nd. Preliminary Final losers.
2021 finished 4th. Semi Final losers.
2022 Preliminary Final losers.
2023 Grand Final losers

Compared to us.

2019 finished 15th
2020 finished 16th
2021 Elimination Final losers
2022 Grand Final losers
2023 Elimination Final losers

So you could argue that Brisbane lions had to work harder and experienced more heartbreak and near misses to get to this point than us. This gives me a glimmer of hope. Not much, but it's all I got right now. Brisbane lions and Fagan were a laughing stock for a while and he was going to get the sack. Especially after that whole racism row. Maybe just staying the course and trading in a few players (Key defender and key forward) is what we need right now and if we keep plugging away we'll eventually get there.

You could say yeah, but we were smashed in 2014 and 2016. To me, these are completely different teams.


And hey, we were smashed by 80 in 2022 and only 60 in 2024 so that's gotta be an improvement right? Maybe our next Grand Final against Freo we'll only be smashed by 40?

You forget 70 77 86 87 Nothing wrong with Brisbane

 

[bloodsbigot]

You forget 70 77 86 87 Nothing wrong with Brisbane

Think you missed my point.

 

[bedford]

Think you missed my point.

I know what ive been through

 

[bloodsbigot]

I know what ive been through

 

[bedford]

DON'T NEED THAT SHIT THANKS