Teals and independent candidates in 2025 fed election

[MPMonkeys]

What was the margin in the Dutton's electorate last election?

Its 1.7% but really its being propped up by the Greens vote. He will be fine.

 

[Not Important]

You seriously think Tim Wilson will get back in?

sadly, it’s possible. the libs are pouring in big bucks, spreading misinformation, and targeting her at a personal level. wilson is a self-obsessed far-rightist who did sfa for his electorate cos he thought his blue-ribbon seat was his for life.

the issue daniel has is that a lot of libs voted for her cos they loathed morrison. that factor doesn’t apply now. although many don’t like wilson. so here’s hoping.

 

[MPMonkeys]

sadly, it’s possible. the libs are pouring in big bucks, spreading misinformation, and targeting her at a personal level. wilson is a self-obsessed far-rightist who did sfa for his electorate cos he thought his blue-ribbon seat was his for life.

the issue daniel has is that a lot of libs voted for her cos they loathed morrison. that factor doesn’t apply now. although many don’t like wilson. so here’s hoping.

What is about Wilson that is 'far-right'?

 

[peetoo]

Its 1.7% but really its being propped up by the Greens vote. He will be fine.

It’s 3% tpp. No wonder you are ‘confused’

 

[JackFlash]

All Teals must be defeated!

 

[peetoo]

If you don't think that Labor HQ will be desperately trying to distance themselves from the Greens and Teals during the election campaign, then all I can say is please volunteer to be a Labor adviser.

I will repeat - Being associated with the Greens and Teals is a certain vote LOSER for the swing voter.

Quite the ‘advice giver’ aren’t you? I suggest you study basics before getting onto ‘big stuff’

Dutton holds he seat with a 3% margin not 1.7%

 

[MPMonkeys]

Quite the ‘advice giver’ aren’t you? I suggest you study basics before getting onto ‘big stuff’

Dutton holds he seat with a 3% margin not 1.7%

He holds it with a 3.4% margin however the swing needed is 1.7%.
When party people talk about electoral seats they generally talk in the context of 'swing needed', not current margin.

 

[peetoo]

Abbott was only 'deeply unpopular' with those that never would have voted for the Coalition anyway. If someone had said this time last year that Trump would win the election as well as the overall vote and both houses then you would have said they were crazy.
Expect a similar rout in Australia at the next election. And unlike the Democrats, Labor have been given due warning.

Trump was always going to win it was just a question of the republicans being cuckolded by MAGA

 

[Not Important]

What is about Wilson that is 'far-right'?

wilson was policy director of the far-right propaganda outfit the ipa. he remains a member of that far-right outfit and still espouses their far-right agenda.

some reading for you.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/03/27/tim-wilson-liberal-candidate-goldstein/

Tim Wilson – modern liberal or con man? - The AIM Network

When George Brandis created a very high-paying job as a human rights commissioner to gift to Tim Wilson without any selection process,

theaimn.com

 

[peetoo]

He holds it with a 3.4% margin however the swing needed is 1.7%.
When party people talk about electoral seats they generally talk in the context of 'swing needed', not current margin.

The question was the margin

 

[peetoo]

Libs thinking some teal seats are agiven - not punishing a three term govt any more.

But one of their ‘faceless men’ let’s slip what they really think of teal electorate voters

"The problem is, it's not the people who've been shut out who are the preselectors of Bradfield. It's the privileged, cosmopolitan global elite, dare I say it, who preselect in Bradfield."

Abbott says teals a one-hit wonder as battle for Bradfield heats up — ABC News

Tony Abbott has declared time on the teal movement, dismissing it as a quirk of the 2022 election as he ramps up support for a prominent conservative in this weekend's "epoch-defining" Liberal preselection.

apple.news

 

[DaRick]

sadly, it’s possible. the libs are pouring in big bucks, spreading misinformation, and targeting her at a personal level. wilson is a self-obsessed far-rightist who did sfa for his electorate cos he thought his blue-ribbon seat was his for life.

the issue daniel has is that a lot of libs voted for her cos they loathed morrison. that factor doesn’t apply now. although many don’t like wilson. so here’s hoping.

I'm a bit out of touch, but doesn't VIC broadly despise Dutton?

And seats like Flynn would embrace Dutton a lot more than seats like Goldstein, or the teal seats in NSW (which are diametrically opposite on social issues).

I think the Coalition will win even without the teal seats. We are going to see 5-10% swings against Labor in the suburban seats. There are almost 40 seats held by Labor with a margin under 10%.

Problem is a lot of those are already held by the LNP, especially in QLD. I would know.

Plus seats like Bennelong/Reid/Chisholm have a decent Chinese contingent, and the Chinese are not exactly pro-Dutton.

Cost of living issues are a serious problem, admittedly.

Abbott was only 'deeply unpopular' with those that never would have voted for the Coalition anyway. If someone had said this time last year that Trump would win the election as well as the overall vote and both houses then you would have said they were crazy.
Expect a similar rout in Australia at the next election. And unlike the Democrats, Labor have been given due warning.

Different countries, different electoral systems.

It will take something ot of the ordinary to achieve that.

But never say never. Abbott was deeply unpopular and didn’t have a great ministerial record either.

I say Abbott because he and Rudd were the only recent changes to get close to 5% overall

Rudd swung 23 seats, Abbott 18. Something in that range taken directly off Labor

Abbott vicariously benefited from the Howard Era's relative stability, while the ALP were tearing themselves apart. They don't seem to be this time, although cost of living issues are a real problem.

Rudd was a Queenslander who won a whole bunch of QLD seats.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Media advertising and campaigning is done at the holisitic level - not at the seat level. Associating Teals and/or Greens (although they are both the same really) with Labor helps LNP in the outer suburban Labor seats which are the main seats in town this election.

Actually, they're quite different. The Teals serve the class interests of high income earners, whereas the Greens serve the class interests of low and middle income earners. These interests happen to intersect for things like climate change and political corruption that harm everybody, but don't necessarily intersect on things like taxation and the power of corporations.

 

[MPMonkeys]

Actually, they're quite different. The Teals serve the class interests of high income earners, whereas the Greens serve the class interests of low and middle income earners. These interests happen to intersect for things like climate change and political corruption that harm everybody, but don't necessarily intersect on things like taxation and the power of corporations.

Haha - The Greens pretend they are class warriors but the reality is they know that none of their proposals re tax would ever be enacted. Therefore their incomes will always be protected.

If anything, they are even more elitist than the Teals.

Noteworthy too that the Teals voted with the Greens more times than with any other party.

 

[peetoo]

Greens v Teals is probably more of a demographic thing than anything else

 

[peetoo]

This aged well in light of social media going totally ‘hands off’

Coalition turns heat up on teals over Labor misinformation bill — The Australian

Opposition communications spokesman David Coleman has called on the teals to rule out supporting any future bid by Labor to pass a misinformation bill.

apple.news

Great stuff reminding teal voters they ‘aren’t liberal’

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Haha - The Greens pretend they are class warriors but the reality is they know that none of their proposals re tax would ever be enacted. Therefore their incomes will always be protected.

You seem to be very adept at reading minds. You could make a very lucrative career out of that.

If anything, they are even more elitist than the Teals.